Hi There, Most mechanics use the Needams or Dataman what are you using. Jim

-- Jim (elevator555@hotmail.com), February 18, 2005

Answers

I have a trusty ole bytech. You can find em really cheap on ebay sometimes. They're a bit bigger but still work nicely.

Dan

-- Dan (justsomeguylookin2@hotmail.com), February 19, 2005.

eeprom burners

i built my own that will work with any pc at home or in the field. it came from norway {sven} it bypasses all copyrights and protected eeproms it will also burn bios chips for ur computer and other things such as xboxes. it works great with any eeprom no matter pin size by just setting the dip switches. it also was very cheap ,<100$ software included and free upgrades. u just gotta be able to solder and read directions

-- noway (nowayurgettingmyemail@yahoo.com), February 19, 2005.

The DATAMAN 48 and S4 are really good. I also use an INTRONICS Pocket Programmer ( www.in-ks.com/index.html ) - very compact & cheap.

-- Rob (elevtronic@hotmail.com), February 19, 2005.

Not to rain on anyone's parade, BUT...

We quit burning eeproms to a chip 15 years ago... It's OLD technology...

-- Will (mtnrambo@msn.com), February 19, 2005.

Hey Will, What do you do when the 15 year old eprom goes bad and some programs are not available like 350 differant programs for us 1230,20 or epic 1.

-- Jim (elevator555@hotmail.com), February 20, 2005.

You forget who I am employed by. I have the abilty to download the existing eeproms into a laptop and then upload if ever the need be. Every one of my jobs has been downloaded and backed up, except of course, that old relay logic stuff, hard to find a 25 pin or a 9 pin on that....

-- Will (mtnrambo@msn.com), February 20, 2005.

You know Will, in abit you'll lose your relay skillset and just be a number crunching geek!....(oh look the screen's turned blue...isn't it pretty and look it beeps!!) At the end of the day mate, most micro's are based around the Z80 and if you look at the architecture, the circuits are all based around standard logic. However you didn't design em and until you get that clever you'll just be an operator of a tool. I don't think you've got Bell Labs or IBM or ARM on your CV have you? Also, if you look at the ladder program of a PLC, the ladder is put down on a screen first. You didn't design that ladder you're just someone who can look at it via tool. You can change some variables that the designer lets you. Again you're the operator. I'm ex subs, and i've seen and worked with more technolgy than you'll ever get to see. An old Chief of mine once said to me when I joined my second sub (when I thought I was the bees knees at 21!!!) never forget where you came from son and don't forget I've forgotten more than you know. He was right. My message is, have a little respect.

-- Richard (elevator656@aol.com), February 20, 2005.

Richard,

I got 26 years in and can retire in a bit... I've seen it all, and worked on it all, at the adjustor level...

Burning eeproms is archaic, even though it was " the shit " 15-20 years ago...

Most of the stuff out there today has the ability to change and save that information we used to burn into an eeprom...

-- Will (mtnrambo@msn.com), February 20, 2005.

Hey Pudd’nhead Wil, Speaking of archaic,.... why don't you explain how your superior company gets the LON software loaded into a LON node or into the 188E CPU board on TAC? Why does a "supposed smart system" make men do automated tasks? Yep,... you're definitely a manager alright,... a LON Manager;-)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to.

Mark Twain (1835–1910), U.S. author. Following the Equator, ch. 27, “Pudd’nhead Wilson’s New Calendar” (1897).

-- ElevatorGuy (elevatorguy@geocities.com_), February 20, 2005.

Hey guys what's with you lot? Why do some of you feel the need for for a medal of honour? We all do the same job, though we vary to the degree of our expertise. The simple fact is that we still need oilers and greasers as well installers, adjusters /testers. Everyone has an important role to play and it is the duty of those of us with knowledge to share, to actually share it. When you retire you will have the knowledge that you have contributed to your trade and to the skills of others. Either that or you will be a sorry old git, who complains endlessly in the asylum that only he knows it all. The simple fact is that none of us know it all, we just vary in expertise over various types of equipment. Calm down and learn to work with each other and not against each other, there are plenty of other people out there who like to give us an ear bashing without doing it for ourselves.

Best regards

Frank

-- Frank (francis1@tinyonline.co.uk), February 20, 2005.

For the record I mostly use the S4 Dataman - portable and reliable. Hey Will; you have some strange attitudes mate; and I'd agree with what others have posted - never be so sure that you know everything because you never will. Who cares if you just upload software; any decent adjuster can do that. For the record I was an adjuster for Otis and TKE. At the end of the day you don't have a choice on what type of lift you work on and some of them need to have chips burnt. What about displays etc - I suppose you just upload them as well; ever changed a lookup table on one before? I haven't worked in a company yet that doesn't use burners from time to time. Jim posted a fair question so give a fair answer - not "they're archaic"; because there are still a lot of "archaic" lifts around.

-- Ray (fakeaddress@hotmail.com), February 20, 2005.