IS a BIOWEAPONS ATTACK IMMINTENT???

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Scroll down thru the recent threads: Lots of reports of chemtrails from all over North America. The pace of aerial innoculation is increasing. Now we have a report that minute amounts of anthrax have been found in samples of whatever substance we are being sprayed with.Is the govmint trying to build immunity in the population by exposing us to a vaccine which contains small amounts of anthrax.If they were truly exposing us to lethal amounts of anthrax we'd all be dead as anthrax kills within three days of exposure.The reports have a certain uniformity; Widespread flu like symptoms immeadiatly following a spraying. Local media encouraging those with symptoms to call a toll free number. Have a friend who called the number after we were sprayed back in May. They asked him detailed questions about his symptoms but would tell him nothing. He and I and many others came down with a kind of vague but persistent upper repiratory ailment. Anthrax attacks the respiratory system, your lungs fill with a whipped cream like fluid and you drown. We all eventually all recovered except for one very sweet old lady who got progressively worse, was hospitalized, and died. Her name was Wanda and she brought a little sunshine into all our lives.Was she an early casuality in a biowar which is about to unfold. In any mass innoculation, some have severe reactions. Some die. Read about a defector from the Iraqi bioweapons program who asserted that vials of anthrax had been smuggled into the US and other western nations.These are alledgedly being held by terrorist cells for release at some future date.Chemtrails have been reported over Canada, Australia and Western Europe as well as the US. Connect the dots!The US military is insisting that all it's members get the anthrax vaccine.Recently, the press has giving much attention to comments by high defense officials concerning the threat from bioweapons.Personally, I have a contact in the USMC who has said that his units have been practising closing freeway offramps in SoCal. They have done so in full NBC gear.Some other recent threads have reported recent unusual military movements in Texas,NY, Tenn, Oregon, Cal and Washington St.If you were Saddam, or Bin Laden or whomever, when would you release your bio-terrorists?,perhaps amid the chaos of Y2K failures? Might wanna step up the pace of preps and avoid the cities.

-- Ralph Kramden (And@AwayWeGo.com), December 02, 1999

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I'm witcha Ralphy. My wife is a nurse in a nursing home, full of really seasoned citizens. Their 'turnover' has tripled this year, almost exclusively from respiratory ailments. We two, daughter and two grandsons have a constant cough and sinus problmes now, all of us all the time, all at once.

Somethings up and it don't smell good, if'n I could smell at all.

Kook

-- Y2Kook (y2kook@usa.net), December 02, 1999.


What's NBC gear? Why do you assume the intent is benevolent, an "innoculation"? If true, then Wanda would have consulted her Doctor, who would have instructed her not to receive said innoculation, and she would still be alive.

-- Hokie (nn@nn.com), December 02, 1999.

As I sit here coughing with a minor upper respiratory problem I can't seem to shake....if you visit the Center for Disease Control (CDC) site, it states that 5 major cities in the U.S. have received serious threats of bioterrorist attack. I couldn't find any amplifying information. I also can't find anything that talks about a vaccination that can be disseminated by air. Oh well.

-- Nothing (better@to.do), December 02, 1999.

Very perceptive view Ralph. I for one noticed the contrail mess near my northern florida location just today. I to can only surmise that the reason behind this "huge / intensive" activity would be to somehow hopefully prepare us for an expected bio attack. Of course our gov would act on such a threat, even knowing that a certain percentage of us might die from side effects. that is always part of war, and a bio attack would be war. I think the way the pace of things are accelerating in the world, is perhaps a sign of biblical implications. Its become a scary world to live in because of the fast pace of life and news.

-- A Guy (waiting@y2kgetit.com), December 02, 1999.

But why not just give us all gas masks, like in Israel? Or am I showing my true ignorance about matters of war?

-- Hokie (nn@nn.com), December 02, 1999.


'BenLaben' not 'Ben Laden' get it right. Otherwise pretty good.

-- (...@.......), December 02, 1999.

Hokie:

You're asking for alot of info.

Here's the executive summary:

Firstly, NBC stands for Nuclear-Biological-Chemical (as in warfare or defence, or personal protective kit).

Beyond that, this past year has seen alot of activity around the world (did you know TIME interviewed Osama Bin Laden in Jan/99? Read the article, it talks of what Bin Laden wants done.)

Your fearless leader has left you vulnerable to many forms of attack, among them the NBC plus conventional explosive/incendiary or standard assassinations. Now there's (according to the FBI) a real threat of +/- 200,000 cyber attacks forthcoming in the very near future.

-- (Kurt.Borzel@gems8.gov.bc.ca), December 02, 1999.


Hokie, no offense, but yes you are showing your ignorance on this matter. I am no expert either by any stretch of the imagination, but suprisingly enough there is a lot of info on the web about this. Do a little reading and you'll understand a lot more.

One obvious answer to your question about the gas masks... anthrax has no smell, no taste, no color, and leaves no visible cloud when dispersed in the air. So how will you know when to put your gas mask on? By the time symptoms are observed it is too late.

Try this site for starters:

D.O.D. Anthrax Information Website

Also, if it weren't "benevolent", do you think Clinton would be breathing it, as well as many other persons of importance to the government? They don't want to kill us, we pay their salaries, remember? We are their slaves.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 02, 1999.


Why not gas masks? Obvious... this is a government that doesnt like to spend money on civilian protection. I believe the figure on civil defense is less than $1 per person per year. Gas masks (good ones) cost about $200... check out the web sites for yourself - in this forum... That totals about 60 billion buck. Not very effective spending. Its obvious that we need to spend more money on civil defense, especially nuclear / biological / chemical... But its also obvious that our potential enemies (china / russia) are vocally protesting any movement on our part to do just that. Sooooooo we all are left up here in the open, while our leaders are in their NEW Y2K BUNKERS!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't believe them when they say they are tempoary. they will keep them operational even if y2k is minimal.

-- A Guy (waiting@getit.com), December 02, 1999.

Gas masks are not enough because:

1. They don't work in an oxygen-deprived environment. 2. NBC agents can be classified as burn, blister and blood agents, many of which can be absorbed directly through the skin.

-- (Kurt.Borzel@gems8.gov.bc.ca), December 02, 1999.



In addition to fuel chemistry changes, our atmosphere has changed. Add that to the fact that everyone with more than $500,000 seems to have a jet, it adds up to a lot of flying, hence a lot of Contrails. Look at how bad our road traffic is, the skies are just a crowed compared to 20 years ago.

The final proof is this. (Learned from an editorial in Analog Science Fiction/Fact) YOU CAN NOT HAVE A CHEMICAL/BIOLOGICAL WEAPON (AND USE IT) **UNTIL** YOU HAVE DEVELOPED AND DEPLOYED AN IMMUNIZING AGENT FOR YOUR OWN TROOPS.

If I knew that the police, national guard, power and water techs, doctors, Federal agents, politicians and bureaucrats were getting shots,then I would worry.

If our government is trying to immunize us against an impending foreign attack, it sure was nice of the enemy to call ahead and let us know what he was planning to use. It would be a real joke, if we are being immunized against Anthrax and the terrorists hit us with bubonic plauge instead.

The fact that more people are sick is the result of several things.

1. poor quality people. we are not as tough as our ancestors.

2. over use of antibiotics leading to resistant germs.

3. poor nutrition. Add the number of people who eat a healthy diet to the number of people who take artificial supplements, I bet it still comes to under 20% of the population.

4. bad environment, the "sick building" syndrome. Not counting "outgassing" of chemicals from modern building materials, over 75% of the air you breath in a modern building has been going around and around and around in that building since the day it was built. You can't refresh a building if you can't open the windows.

5.bad child rearing. In the old days when men worked outside and women kept house, sick children stayed home. Today with both parents working, the kid that should have stayed home goes to school or day care and throws germs all over the place.

6. immigration, we are getting hit with germs from overseas which our bodies have no immunity too. The brand of bug your new Hispanic housekeeper/custodian/busboy gives you is not what you would have gotten 20 year ago from a local person.

We are not going to be destroyed or enslaved. If we were, the Overlords/commies/NWO would not last a generation. Russia's dirt and weather are just as good as ours. It is our SYSTEM that allows us to grow enough to feed the world.

-- ME (watching@ll the.fun), December 02, 1999.


Oops!

So sorry, I forgot one:

Nerve agents.

When I worked in the Canadian Army, the standard drill called for us to be able to fully seat masks within 7 seconds of warning. Despite practice drills, we were taught that you usually won't get a clear warning--unless you are the intended target (not good) or are so fortunate to see friendly troops go down in pain and tortuous death.

Point made.

-- (Kurt.Borzel@gems8.gov.bc.ca), December 02, 1999.


A Guy,

I bought a new Israeli gas mask from an Army Navy surplus store for $10 including 2 filters. This is the same kind used in Israel during the Gulf War.

How do you figure $1 per person for defense. We spent somewhere in the neighborhood of $270 billion this year for defense, so that is closer to $1000 for every man, woman, and child.

ME,

Most police, national guard, doctors, Federal agents, politicians and bureaucrats HAVE already been vaccinated. It may be true that our health in general is deteriorating, but how would you explain why they are laying all these clouds over us?

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), December 02, 1999.


Thanks for takin' the time to break it down for me guys!

I am a,

-- Hokie (nn@nn.com), December 02, 1999.


From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California

"ME" is blaming the victims on several chemtrails and NBC threads, today.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), December 02, 1999.



IS a BIOWEAPONS ATTACK IMMINTENT???

Hmm...define immenent. I believe at least one will happen during the next year. Experts (such as D.A. Henderson at Johns Hopkins) believe we will see a major bioagent attack in the U.S. in the next 5-10 years. Nobody knows for sure but it's a lot more likely than a nuclear attack. As for timing, 1/1/00 is an attractive target but I expect anytime during 2000 is almost as likely.

-- Don Kulha (dkulha@vom.com), December 02, 1999.


Osama ben Laden is a known CIA-asset. He also trained KLA troops. He is probably a good buddy of Bubba Clinton. Point 2: Over the last six months, the military has been directed to destroy all surplus military gas masks, which they have done. They don't want us to have them. There is an unconfirmed rumor that Bubba has attempted to stop importation of gas masks. Point 3: If you bother to read the published documents about the anthrax vaccine, you will find that many members of the military have become very ill after receiving the vaccine. The anthrax vaccine is made by BioPort, run by a good buddy of Bubba and former member of the joint chiefs. The vaccine is often contaminated and does not meet FDA standards. If the vaccine is offered to the public, don't take it. Point 4: Read the U.N. documents, which Bubba follows religiously. They want us dead.

-- infoscan (infoscan@dontgothere.com), December 02, 1999.

Okay! I get it:The elites wanna kill off the worker bees, tax base and cannon fodder that makes it possible for them to live in luxury and privilege. Makes perfect sense! I personally know seven Naval Reservists who are getting the anthrax vaccine, ( It's a series of shots spread over several months.) NONE have reported any nasty side effects.However, as with all mass innoculations, some folks have severe reactions!

-- Ralph Kramden (and@awayWeGo.com), December 02, 1999.

Infoscan,

How do you know that the military has been instructed to destroy all surplus gas masks? Could that be "Salvage" rather than "surplus"?

-- Larry (Skyblue@Yonder.com), December 03, 1999.


From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California

Why would protesters just happen to have been wearing gas masks for this Seattle event, when tear gas has hardly ever been used in the past for crowd control. Could this aspect have been staged as a means of triggering a run on masks, so that citizens would pull as many masks through the pipelines as possible? Perhaps there is an enormous surplus of them due to manufacturers having ramped up, expecting there to have been a demand which never materialized. Maybe somebody in the administration would like to see those masks distributed as much as possible, and decided that a rumor of a ban would do the trick.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), December 04, 1999.


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