Ok, a little background. I'm a 29 year old embedded software engineer. I work in a high-tech hot growth industry. I hate un-scientific thinking and general stupidity, I mock it and hope it extincts itself from the planet. I work with some really bright engineers of all degree levels and have a lot of Silicon Valley contacts. NO ONE, let me repeat that, NO ONE in my industry is concerned about Y2k. We mock it and laugh at those chicken-little's who think it will be the end of the world.

I have a family and I am not concerned in the least about Y2k. It absolutely will not effect us. Somehow you have all convinced yourselves that it is something. And you vehemently attack anyone that has an opposite more realistic assessment. You do not want the truth, you do not want anyone questioning your faith of Y2k disaster. Well, now I will treat Doomerism as a religion. I do not attack people for their religious beliefs because on the whole religion teaches good values even if it does sometimes stray from scientific thought. But Doomerism contains factions that are hell-bent on the demise of society. You may not believe me but there was a poster here who suggested killing your neighbors before the rollover so that they wouldn't come after your stash.

But I will leave you to your religion. The difference with this religion however is that your prophets have told you redemption occurs at midnight on 1/1/2000. And if nothing happens there will be a lot of angry sheep in Yourdon's flock.

Enjoy Thanksgiving and the rest of the holiday season. May your friends and family accept you back into their good graces after the rollover.

-- You Knowwho (debunk@doomeridiots.com), November 17, 1999

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youknowwhocares?

please let the door hit you in the rear on your way out. Goodbye Pollidiot!

-- nothere nothere (notherethere@hotmail.com), November 17, 1999.

Adios...Vio Con Dios...Sayonnara...Auf Weidershen..."GOOD RIDDANCE!!!"

-- Billy-Boy (Rakkasan@yahoo.com), November 17, 1999.

hey nowhere,

I just want to reimd you that I'm not going anywhere.

I hate stupidity and abhor it more than anything else on the planet. It's you silly technophobes that are going to go the way of the do-do bird really soon.

Evolution moves forwards, not backwards.

Oh yeah, and I saw this hilarious bumper sticker the other day:

Earth First(We'll strip mine the other planets later<)

ta ta

-- (Doomers@suck.big time!!), November 17, 1999.

http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/reports/y2k/dos.html

[Fair Use: For Educational/Research Purposes Only]

[The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: 9.19.99]

Be prepared: A list of do's

By Marilyn Geewax

Atlanta Journal-Constitution Staff Writer

Washington -- Don't panic, but get prepared. While the nation's basic infrastructure will function after Jan. 1, authorities say the Y2K computer bug is sure to cause some problems. The power could go out in one community, while the water system falters in another and traffic lights malfunction in still another. Because no one can say with certainty which systems might fail, "the basic message we are giving people is ... be prepared for an emergency," said Red Cross spokeswoman Leslie Credit. Start your preparations by figuring out who is going to be in your household between Dec. 31 and mid-January, and what each person's special needs will be. Then lay out a strategy for making sure everyone can stay hydrated, healthy and warm for up to two weeks. These are among the recommendations being made by mainstream agencies:

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WATER

THE POTENTIAL PROBLEM:

Local providers typically keep water flowing by using pumps and valves controlled by microprocessors and chips. Computers also regulate various aspects of water treatment, such as the addition of chlorine. In addition, Y2K-related power outages could cause a loss of heat that would allow pipes to freeze and burst.

THE SOLUTION:

[snip]

-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), November 17, 1999.

Thanks for the informative statement.

The difference between me and you is really quite simple.

I believe that others have a right to do as they see fit, period.

It is not my business or yours to deride others for what they do for themselves. Whether it be to prepare for a three day storm or a multi-year drought. Do you even have a firm grasp of the reality of what a multi-year drought is like? I don't think so.

You are not old enough to have gained the wisdom that you profess. Nor are you of the stature in leadership skills that would cause me to believe you.

In simple terms, mind your own business and I'll mind mine. Butt out.

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), November 17, 1999.

A Gen-X'er. Who'd a thunkit?

BTW, I am MUCH more experienced in your field than you. I couldn't care LESS whether or not YOU THINK Y2K is B.S. The bottom line:

Y2K doens't care how you FEEL, what you THINK, or what you SAY. *IF* enogh remediation has been completed, we're cool; if not, we're TOAST.

And THAT "dude", is the objective reality. Those of us on this board, many of whom also have MUCH MORE experience than YOU, have come to a different conclusion. We choose to provide a cushion for what we feel are the inevitable bumps and jars that will accompany the rollover.

But YOU can just call Pizza Hut....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!

It's just a shame that if you end up suffering due to your little "meme", that your loved ones will have to suffer with you.

So, like, dude.... Hit the road... Like, you know?

44 days.

-- Dennis (djolson@cherco.net), November 17, 1999.

You do not have a more "realistic assessment" by any stretch of the imagination troll.

-- Paula (chowbabe@pacbell.net), November 17, 1999.

Goodbye... Be well.

Or not. Your choice.

Diane

See also...

A Word About Trolls and Such ....

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 001n3A

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 17, 1999.

Thanks for the informative statement.

The difference between me and you is really quite simple.

I believe that others have a right to do as they see fit, period.

It is not my business or yours to deride others for what they do for themselves. Whether it be to prepare for a three day storm or a multi-year drought. Do you even have a firm grasp of the reality of what a multi-year drought is like? I don't think so.

You are not old enough to have gained the wisdom that you profess. Nor are you of the stature in leadership skills that would cause me to believe you.

In simple terms, mind your own business and I'll mind mine. Butt out.

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), November 17, 1999.

Like he said, good riddance.

And *please* don't do another series of troll-byes under a different nom de merde, OK?

-- Ron Schwarz (rs@clubvb.com.delete.this), November 17, 1999.

Hey PolliesSuck!

My email is real if you want a piece of me.

My question for you is WHY would you want to be here?

Go back to your blow-up doll, please.

-- nothere nothere (notherethere@hotmail.com), November 17, 1999.

You know, I am amazed that you could have trained yourself to be such an offensive boor in only 29 years. You have great promise to becoming a truly worldclass boor by 35. Keep working at it!

-- Noone (Noone@none.com), November 17, 1999.

You did not give us any facts and proof like you read on Gary North's site! You forget the whole economic system is linked together and dependent upon each other. If one link goes only half way down, the whole economic system will collapse. What will you tell your wife and children when they are hungry by about March or April. You're a total idiot for not preparing, JUST IN CASE!

-- bbb (bbb@bbb.com), November 17, 1999.

"YouKnowWho" will most likely be dead in less than 3 months. Sadly, so will his family. More needless deaths caused by stupid pollys.

-- (its@coming.soon), November 17, 1999.

Buh bye. I have never had any interest in being instructed or enlightened by anyone who called me names, ridiculed me, or used foul language with a stuck caps lock key. Go figure. I do hope you and yours will find the BITR to be as diminutive as you need it to be that you may have no suffering.

-- (RUOK@yesiam.com), November 17, 1999.

"I mock it and hope it extincts itself from the planet"

The correct word would be extinguish you brainy engineer you. I feel sorry for children. Even if Y2K is nothing, they have to rely on an arrogant fool like you in an increasingly uncertain world.

-- (english@teacher.org), November 17, 1999.

And in three months it's@coming.soon will have mysteriously vanished from sight when the Apocalypse doesn't show up on time.

Go to the back of the bus with the other false prophets you jerk.

-- (Doomers@suck. big time!!!!!!), November 17, 1999.

Wow. You KnowNothing promised this was his last post unless he got deleted. No deletion, and here he is again. Quelle surprise!

-- (reallystinky@trolls.yuk), November 17, 1999.

He may be "bright", but definitely NOT street-smart. "I hold a degree, so I MUST know more than you..."

Some day, little boy, you will wake up and realize that you know a lot less than you thought you did. Get up outta the office, get a cup of coffee, and experience the real world, something BEYOND the keyboard. You'll soon realize that you DON'T call the shots. Someone, maybe the garbageman, has more pull than you do, and you will be dependent UPON them, even though you've GOT your degree...

You've been playing in "virtual reality" way too long... I hope your child is as much a problem to you as you have been to the rest of humanity. Maybe, when you're MUCH older, you'll understand what we've been trying to tell you. (Life is never straight-forward, and you can't control it. We have to work together to pull through. You're little degree doesn't mean squat to a lot of people, or to Mother Nature.) Unfortunately, you'll have to experience much more misery than you presently have. I hope it's an eye-opener.

-- Deb M. (vmcclell@columbus.rr.com), November 17, 1999.

29 years ago, I was just learning how to optimize COBOL code. Have you ever even seen COBOL, You Knowwho? How about Fortran? PL/1? RPG? Mainframe assembly language? How about some of the other tools, like CICS, VSAM, or DL/1?

So you're an "embedded software engineer." Ever work on a Z-80 or a 6502 chip? I have, in assembly language. Same for the entire x86 family. Have you?

I sure hope you're right junior. I just don't see it that way.

Tick... Tock... <:00=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), November 17, 1999.

>"I'm a 29 year old embedded software engineer."

You and your coworkers are an ignorant, boorish little babies who knows nothing of life's trials and reverses.

-- Nelson Isada (isada@alaska.net), November 17, 1999.

On the other hand, Deb's wisdom is probably all she has ever relyed upon to "call the shots" about Y2K. You know, forget the years of engineering spent in college, the countelss decades of IT/CS consulting, and forget having inside information to EVERY COMPANY IN THE WORLD, and just rely on good old motherly wisdom...

bwaahahahahawwaahhahaah!!!!!!

-- (Doomers@suck. big time!!!), November 17, 1999.

Hey, Suck...

Let me know ahead of time when you're going to have another diaper- dirtying rant. I wanna get a good picture for posterity and my disertation on scatologically-fixated trolls like youself depends on it.

-- Deb M. (vmcclell@columbus.rr.com), November 17, 1999.

Hi YouKnowwho, nice to hear your background at last. You may be my evil twin (or vice versa): I'm working on next gen integrated telecomms systems (Bluetooth or bust). I'll gladly confirm that I have only one - count him, one - colleage who is even remotely concerned about Y2K, and even he hasn't prepped at all, he's just following the news and saying "But it's all bullshit, right?"

Everyone else I have spoken to in person just doesn't believe it. They don't mock or laugh (to my face, I'm sure you'll be glad to point out if I don't). They just glaze over and look a bit uncomfortable. This backs you up, but I think you're maybe missing something. They're not applying their considerable experience and brainpower to pondering Y2K, they're just wishing I'd shut up and let them get back to concentrating on the problem at hand. I can't blame them for that, it does sound like wacko stuff, but the thing is, if you're glazing over, or mocking, or laughing, you're not THINKING. Billions of brains NOT THINKING about a problem doesn't help to solve it or even determine if it exists or not.

You seem like a pretty confident guy. Here's the one consistent lesson that I've learned working in banks, the games business, process control and telecomms. Anyone who is sure of themselves hasn't thought about the problem. They are playing the management game. "It's all trivial. Been done. Easy. BORING. Look at this render of the shiny piece of kit we'll make for you NEXT year!"

I need people like you to convince me to try something that - according to current thinking - can't be done. But you need people like me to make your promises good by doing all the tricky shit that you claimed would be so damn trivial and couldn't be bothered thinking through. I've heard it time and time again, and every time, it turns out to be way, way harder than anyone possibly thought at first. No? Why are most software projects late and overbudget? Not YOURS, but most others?

Clearly we have different experiences, and different views on what's trivial. I haven't seen the things you've seen. Maybe you've seen a magic wand to make all the interconnections go away. Likewise, you haven't seen what I've seen, and I've seen unresolved Y2K problems in production systems. I've got one on my screen (hang on...) right now, that's fixed but won't be rolled out until next year.

So. We're in similar situations, I am very happy with my life, and I don't WANT anything to change it. But I am still scared. Is it possible, just POSSIBLE, that I know something that you don't know? If 10% of engineers see problems, does that mean there aren't any because the 90% must be right?

Or do you really, really believe that you know it all?

-- Colin MacDonald (roborogerborg@yahoo.com), November 17, 1999.

nom de merde? Ron, yer killin' me!!

-- Jay Urban (Jayho99@aol.com), November 17, 1999.

Have you not noticed that the doomers are generally a pretty well- educated lot as well? If we were technophobes as you say we would not be writing to you on our computers. Further, many of the doomers here are engineers and programmers. I once was a programmer myself, now I'm a researcher, journalist, and historian. I'm not really a stupid person and I see sufficient evidence from government documents alone that there will be difficult times ahead.

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), November 17, 1999.

OK Youknowwho, now we have something to discuss. You are an engineer who claims noone in silicon valley takes Y2K seriously. Why then has Bill Gates recently purchased a private island near Hawaii? Eh? Anyway, that's not my point. I challenge you buddy, right here and now, to have your entire company rollover all their mainframes etc to January 1, 2000. Right now. Come on. Do it. Betcha won't respond to this posting.

-- Int (hmmm@hmmm.hmmm), November 17, 1999.

"I hate un-scientific thinking and general stupidity, I mock it and hope it extincts itself from the planet. "

Ahh, the arrogance of youth and inexperience. I wrote software code years before you were even conceived, and have since moved on.

Be wary, young man...you and your family may get your wish. Remember Oscar Wilde's second great tragedy of life.

-- nemo (pollies@naive.com), November 17, 1999.

Mara,

I've known a few cops in NYC who hate police more than anyone on Earth. Ironic isn't it? Smae goes for Doomers. You might even have wonderful jobs in the IT field, but deep down inside you hate the world and your little part in it.

And deb, I don't have any diapers handy but if you want I'll send you some kitty lumps out of the tray next time I clean it out. Don't forget you were the one that asked for it.

Well anyway, it's after noon, and this silliness wears on my patience. Stay tuned for another hit and run trolling sometime in the near future. Same Doomer channel, same Doomer time.

ta ta for now

-- (Doomers@suck. big time!!), November 17, 1999.

"I hate un-scientific thinking and general stupidity, I mock it and hope it extincts itself from the planet. "

Darwinism seems to working, wait a little while... You're a living example of how a string of mitochondrial DNA becomes extinct - failure to learn from others' experiences.

-- Deb M. (vmcclell@columbus.rr.com), November 17, 1999.

You w-w-work in Silicon Valley. Bwahahahahahaahahahhahahahhahahah. You mean, you actually work for companies that don't produce anything tangible, yet are worth billions. And you're not taking Y2K seriously. Bwhahahahahahahahaha. Listen pal, I don't take Silicon Valley seriously. I'd be suprised if any of you DID take Y2K seriously. Bwhahahahahahaahahha......

-- Hahaha (ha@ha.ha), November 17, 1999.

--surprisingly, i sorta agree with one point, that is, don't prepare(just for)y2k. I manintain that a "Survivalist Mindset" is a good lifestyle to adopt. there are a HECK of a lot more reasons to "be prepared" than y2k alone. A survivalist is an asset to themselves, family, and community. A non-survivalist lives in an intel (data)-lacking vacuum, they have no desires (mostly) other than for immediate satisfaction, and usually are woefully un-informed on any number of important issues. Now, for a lot of people, y2k has been the first "wake up call", and for that, even if NOTHING happens, as this original-poster suggests-preparations and the mindset are still valuable. I always advise folks to NOT run away from y2k but to run TOWARDS a better life for themselves. Works for me, your mileage may vary....zog

-- zog (zzoggy@yahoo.com), November 17, 1999.

Suck,

You are so very boring... Your rants, and limited scope in intellect are all that I need. You and Debunk are so pathetic, and arrogant, in fact.

Running like the coward you are, not enough guts to argue rationally, but need to descend to name-calling and hate-spewing to make yourself feel better. You know, I wish I would have been there as a child for you, your parents must have been awful to you to make you turn out this way, hating people, and insulating yourself in non-reality, just so you can escape the memories... You must have had a real witch as a mom to have you turn out this way. I wish I could help you, but I can't - that decision is up to you. I hope you can open your eyes and see the world for what it is, there is a limit as to what we can do to shape our lives - the rest is adaptation. I hope you learn this soon and that it won't be too late to have learned the lesson.

-- Deb M. (vmcclell@columbus.rr.com), November 17, 1999.

There are those on this forum who hold graduate degrees in behavioral sciences. For You Knowwho and Doomersucks to hypothesize on the psychological make-up of those who are concerned about y2k is as ludicrous as non-techies giving Sysman a lesson in COBOL. Tellingly, I haven't seen anyone arrogant enough to do that. Hmmm....got Freud?

-- (RUOK@yesiam.com), November 17, 1999.

"Ok, my last post unless it is deleted."

Praise the maker!!

Bye

-- poppy (pop@pop.pop), November 17, 1999.

I hate bad grammar and hope it extincts itself from the planet.

-- yahoo (billy@bob.com), November 17, 1999.

Said to be an old African proverb:The old man can see sitting down what the young man can't see standing up.

Could someone please direct me to any threads where "YouKnowwho" has presented plausible evidence that Y2K will not affect us in any way? Are there any threads where he has debated with posters such as Sysman and others over remediation of software or embedded chips? Are there any intelligent posts from "Youknowwho" that would make me want to change my mind about the outcome of Y2K, and proof that he is what he says he is? I come here everyday and haven't seen anything yet. So YouKnowwho, you have no credibility and I feel sorry for your wife and children, she's married to a nitwit and your children probably realize it too.

-- guess who (guesswho@guesswhoo.xcom), November 17, 1999.

These are interesting comments, aren't they? But they don't seem much different from some of my friends.

I have three friends who don't believe in y2k; two of them are electrical engineers designing telecomm hardware and the other one is a computer hardware installer.

I've tried to figure out why they instantly dismiss any problems associated with y2k, and I can only think of one reason. It seems to me that people associated with new technology are the ones that dismiss y2k, and the other people who deal with "older" technologies are the ones that fear y2k.

Also, age is insignificant. One of my friends is in his 60s, and the youngest of the three is almost 40.

Just my 2 cents.

-- impala (impala@wild.com), November 17, 1999.

guess who,

That's assuming the creep is even who he says he is. I've got a feeling that it's some 15 year old kid with way too much time on his hands...and severely underdeveloped testicles!

-- Ludi (ludi@rolling.com), November 17, 1999.

You Knowwho:

Most pollies on the forum bring something to the discussion. Flint shows us in an articulate and intelligent fashion what the view is like from the perspective of the fence. Decker has been an articulate advocate of the pure polly persuasion (until he uncharacteristically seemed to have taken a doomer pill lately -- new marching orders I guess.) However, you bring nothing, zero, nada, zip to the discussion. I never would have guessed you were a software engineer. I'm refraining from stating what I would have guessed to avoid offending that particular group. Go home. If you are one pesonality of a multi-personality spin team, try something new. I personally was fond of Sista in da Hood months back -- the only putative African American who would have flunked Ebonics 101. I tire of the trolls. I will let KoS respond for me from now on.

-- Dave (aaa@aaa.com), November 17, 1999.

He'll be back. Count on it. He doesn't have the maturity to stay away from all the attention we give him. I'll bet he'll be back within 2 days.

-- cavscout (cavscout@fix.net), November 17, 1999.

I hope for the best for you and yours. Have a safe and happy Holiday Season.

As you learn more about scienetific thinking you will find that science is becoming less about absolutes and linear thinking. There are patterns in randomness and events but the view has to be skewed and is affected by the viewing (sorta zen like). As you get older you might learn that being bright is not the same thing as being wise. You also might learn that technology is a tool, nothing more nothing less and your religion is no more or less vallid than any other.

I would not think about mocking you until there was more information on where your perspective is based. The "doomers" who troll pollies with the let them die or kill them are just looking for a reaction as are many of your posts. Debating against an extreme position is a cheap way to build and attack a straw man. If you feel your position is strong enough then tactics like these would be unnecessary.

My family accepts me now even though they DGI and they will accept me after, regardless.

Be safe and if you are correct June of 2000 I will drink a beer to you.

We will all see each other on the other side...

-- squid (Itsdark@down.here), November 17, 1999.

History tells us that many brilliant and talented people perished in the Holocaust. All had the same warning signs of potential and impending disaster. Only a small minority read and analyzed these signs seriously and correctly and were willing to disrupt their cherished lifestyles to save their lives. They weren't the ones with the most degrees or professional knowledge. That had nothing to do with it. They were simply willing to face what must be faced, and they were not willing to risk their lives for their lifestyles.

zog is right. Preparedness is a better way to live.

Don't remember which poster to credit, but liked this saying....

"I'm prepared to be wrong about Y2K. Are you?"

-- Mumsie (shezdremn@aol.com), November 17, 1999.

Yikes... a pure polly? Predicting a recession next year, I'm a gloomy gus compared to the rest of the financial world.

-- Ken Decker (kcdecker@worldnet.att.net), November 17, 1999.

Hey Dave,

The thing that floors me is all the Psych majors that flunked Projection 101!

-- flora (***@__._), November 17, 1999.

29 years old? NOW, I understand! BTW, I hope you are right and I am wrong!

-- FLAME AWAY (BLehman202@aol.com), November 17, 1999.

Suck is right about Silicon Valley not caring. The only references I've seen to Y2K in the valley is a preparedness store in Mtn. View and a bicycle store in Sunnyvale - both on El Camino Real.

My pedigree is similar to Suck's at least for now: I'm currently an embedded systems programmer torturing myself with Tornado. (those who know Tornado know what I mean). My history is much more rich, since I've had time to have a history.

My first program was in 1982 in FORTRAN 77 for the US Navy. Followed closely by several other FORTRAN programs. After that I helped install a UNIVAC 90/60 Mainframe and did a fair amount core-dump debugging.

Following that were several GPIB controller applications, again for the US Navy, in HP "Structured Basic" (know what THAT mean, Suck?), followed by a large maintenance database program on HP-9000's. My last job for the Navy was an Electronic Warfare Simulation program completed in 1985.

So, by the time you MAY have started looking at computers (at age 15), I had already worked on 8 different systems, none of them "Personal Computers".

The rest of my career until 1998 was working on various PC platforms primarily working applications in Windows and Macintosh. Also did some work on a Microvax II. (Know what that is Suck-boy?)

My current embedded systems work is not a lot of fun, but it pays the bills.

My experience varies against yours in at least two crucial areas: first, I've programmed and debugged in ancient languages (FORTRAN)on large government mainframes. Second, my experience covers a large diverse spectrum of development, anything from databases, to simulations, to flight simulators, to embedded systems.

I have what I call the "20,000 foot view" of the interconnections of our modern world, and how they were built. You cannot, and certainly haven't exhibited any such "gestalt" view.

To be clear, my particular worries involve neither power generation, nor telecommunications. My primary concern is government computers, and Department of Defense (DOD) applications. Having observed first hand how things get done - and NOT done - with government projects, I have little faith that *any* government agency of any size will finish remediation on time.

With the above assessment (aka "opinion"), the next question becomes, "What are the ramifications to me if multiple government agencies experience mild, severe, or catastrophic computer failures?"

My answer to that question is why I am a doomer.

Jolly

I could have resisted, but I chose not to.

-- Jollyprez (jolly@prez.com), November 17, 1999.

Just 22 Federal workdays left...he bets his life (and the life of his family.)

-- K. Stevens (kstevens@ It's ALL going away in January.com), November 17, 1999.

YouKnowwho,

Pollies must have infallible crystal balls or real big balls to risk their own and their family's lives on PR reports and opinions. They are playing "prophets of cool"....Doomers are realists, being human they can only study facts and approximate future events and protect themselves. The doomer is prepared to be wrong...and he has to use some of his preparations if he is wrong. But you, arrogant pip squeak, are you ready to be wrong?

Only a complete jackass would bray as you did about knowing the future based on the arrogance of the circle of baboons you frequent.

GET THIS. A BIG and I mean BIG Washington insider is presently advertising on the VENTURE CAPITAL page of www.siliconvalley.com A color cube that rotates with an incredible Y2K message...JUST "CLICK" on that and read the page that comes up. Then run to make preparations.

The General

-- General Facts (General@Washington.Facts), November 18, 1999.

General Facts, what is it that the ad says? I can't find it. Please help!

-- Curious (curious@wondering.com), November 18, 1999.

I dont see that cube either.

But I DID see...

Out of touch
Governor still lacks an e-mail address

The governor of the state leading the Internet revolution is still lacking one of the basics of the wired world -- a personal e-mail address. Gray Davis' spokesman says the governor is waiting for a system to be developed that would ensure correspondents received prompt replies. ...

[LOL!!!]

http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/indepth/ docs/email111899.htm

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), November 19, 1999.

Diane -

He's "...waiting for a system to be developed that would ensure correspondents received prompt replies..."? Gad, what a lousy job of spinning that is. Governor, you need to ask your new CIO, Eli Cortez, to have someone install Eudora, or just assign someone to answer your e-mail for you for a while.

Oh, hang on, I forgot. Mr. Cortez is probably too busy trying to avoid being indicted as part of the San Bernadino County financial fiascos. So many distractions...

-- Mac (sneak@lurk.hid), November 19, 1999.