Sincere??? Or not?

Sheesh! My head hurts... again!

Toto... are we in Kansas yet?

Diane

#1 -- Why Paul Milne is a Polly (Category: Government)

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Sincere Post #1:

First off,

There is No reason for me to believe that guy does not have a lead to real valid info. I have many contacts in Mil. and Gov. that etc.. that tell me quite similar things.

Next, the fact that he used a hotmail account is SOP. I, partners and friends do contract work at government and Military locations. Almost EVERY employee has 1 or many Yahoo &/or Hotmail accounts. Now moving on the any tracking of his IP.. I have installed systems at both government and military locations that have use of public ISP's.. meaning .org and .com (even some of their web sites. common known fact) The reasoning in some areas was just quite simple.. fault tolerance and getting the project done and running with out all the hassle and crap that you have to go through. If only you could imagine some of the degraded and convaluted paths many of these types of sites data flows you would never get a good nights rest. I once found that the main secretary to the commands commanding officer had her computer so mixed up (previous contractors, old programs, etc..) that when EVER she printed that it left her desk in VA went to TN and then to FL where they sent it back to her LPT1 port. The government and military have become wild big and hairy clutters of organizations with in organizations. No everything is managed well at all. We have seen this around the country and world.

As for the young lady who tells of what her friends (informed) son told his family and how they are preparing. I have many contacts who have been told the same. The problem is money to properly prepare and deciding how extended (family wise) you want to go in your family plan. Also not every family group or memeber can handle the truth. I gets a bit messy. But it just takes any one to contact any and all members of the military, gov., etc.. to see what they know and then plan accordingly.

Now, this very important. Arlin Adams is an FBI informant!!! I and others have touched base w/ keeping an eye on him over the years. He is a older middle aged man who is not out in the world, he is partially disabled and does his investigations on the web and via phone contacts (with many groups that don't have everyones best interest in mind.) from his house in MD.

Then as far as the missle launch code info that C4i gave out and some one questioned.. He is right. get real people.. how could you 1 truely believe the Pres. is the only 1 who has the code. So many simple business men hold higher security clearences than that figure head. And many many times other branches or departments with in the gov. and mil. don't even keep the Whitehouse informed of what they do. And secondly, once a missle site is compromised all you need are the keys not the codes ever.. the code is just a vehicle for the permission to launch to be given. Simple stuff that you get taught in grade school if the Q & A gets really interesting.

Why give this guy such a hard time? And why question his sincerity? Does this mean that many of you are not willing to bend or break a rule or order that you see as unjust in order to do a better good for many??

Answered by Sincere (4real@concerned.all) from 207.172.39.184 on June 10, 1999.

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Sincere (4real@concerned.all) on 1999-06-10: Response to Why Paul Milne is a Polly

And...

Sincere Post #2:

Arlin H. Adams is an FBI informant. He MAY be truely concerned about Y2K but he is NEVER to be trusted. This type of forum and use-net pariticipation is his MO. The plan is to have a minimum of 3 of his team here. They post off one another or start some provacative thought. Any one in his business would surely consider a vast majority of Y2K GI's ripe for catagorization into his tracking data. He works with and for many strange organizations that don't have everyones best interest in mind. I knew of Arlins activities about 4 - 5 yrs ago. We even had photos of his house and car etc.. He gets paid to make a big deal out of little things. (like piece work factory employees.. the more names [even if have nothing to do with anything] he can put on his lists and create stories or senerios about them or show correlating or connecting themes the more he is valued by his paycheck masters).

I am a GI & found this forum in my Y2K research. I was very shocked to see Arlin H. Adams here. Did you notice that he did not deny my claims (the TRUTH). I have nothing to gain by my statements. Only hope that he does not harm anyone here. The only mistake I made was in confussing him briefly with a person in MD.. I believe Arlin was the informant / provacatuer in Arlington. He is a middle aged man, partially disabled, on disability. I think the photo we had was of an old red or blue car.. I believe he was not clean shaven at the time. (it was a long time ago when we were tracking his actions on the web, usenet trolling.. looking to set people up and send info to the organizations that pay him) If you do a simple Deja News you can most likely find some of the trails of his activity. If any of you are in a sensitive situation or are interested in making sure you deal only in honorable people don't give him any info that he could use to set you up.

PS. I am not using any account that is link to me or anyone I know. I am not even in a location that is connected to me. So Arlin don't waste your time trying any retribution. I am no one of any importance but just some one with a big heart and concern for persons (mostly GI Parents or caregivers)in this forum and others. I am just concerned for the situations I have seen you and your check senders put people in. They have a history of going against, gun clubs/organizations, attack many religious organizations, or strong Libretarians, or more concervatives, he works with Militia Watch, Souther Poverty Law office (a very crooked money scam), Nitzcor, and some "minority" special interest groups. I am sure that ANY of you who even mentioned once seeing a Bo Gritz (who I personally do not find too darn sincere or consistant, and a bit self serving) book at Wal-Mart were put on his list.

Persons like this are practiced usenet monitors. I don't have much experience with him here but in a sense of community and fellowship I do want to raise the ALERT FLAG for any of you who may be affected by him. Again as you can see, I get nothing from telling you this. I do perhaps risk some or many things. But I feel it is my duty. Take care and focus on yourself and families first and formost.

Answered by Sincere (4real@concerned.all) from 207.172.113.248 on June 14, 1999.

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Sincere (4real@concerned.all) on 1999-06-14: Response to Why Paul Milne is a Polly

And...

Sincere Post #2:

What a freak!!

Arlin, Where the heck did all your spew about Nazis come from. What the heck would be your motive here? Sick!

I have no idea about any of this nonsense the Arlin is ranting about at the moment. But since I know who I am and my motives it makes me truely wonder his.

Who ALL do you work for Arlin? Since you seem to want to go on a binge then why not inform the list with what organizations and in what fashion you "crusade" on their behalf. I suppose your bringing up such strange topics and terms was your way of skewing the tread or "using the race card" seemed like a cheap ploy to me. I am not on this forum to deal with Arlin or even debate him. I just was darn shocked to see him here and wanted to just put out a warning.

I am a concerned GI who works with in the gov./mil/ as a contractor. I have seen first hand how crippled they are in even understanding Y2K let alone getting there IT managers, IMO's (Information Management Officers) to even grasp it. (many IMO's don't even know how to drag and click, and are products of rifts and replacement. These things are what really scare me about Y2K. Whole governement entitities or branches have people in charge of their entire IT arena that know less about computers than my elemetary aged kids)

And Diane we have met many times at the Sacred Space events (I was very tickled to see you here) even back when they were called Ecuminacon. You and your mother have done great selfless work and were very helpful. :)

I am no threat to anyone here. I don't see why the attacks on me. I only stated what is known to be true by many organizations. Because some of the people that Arlin works for are against MANY different organizations or beliefs, religious, life style, 2nd amendment etc.. He also does alot of rabid work pointing the NAZI, Heritic finger all around. Yes I know he does not live a "rich" existance but this does not stop him from working with many of these nefarious organizations.

Like I said I am a GI, have been for years. Even though didn't start to stock up until last year. I to am very active in working with our local governments and working on the community level (my HOA). I volunteer my time. I am not forcing ANY of you to believe me. But I thought it was my duty to warn anyone who might find it of importance to them. Like I said do some Deja-news searches to find out for yourself how you feel on this man or this matter. I am not the focus nor the issue. The reality is Y2K effecting everyone to some level and making it very difficult for caregivers. I have always believed that for true survival Trust is the key. Know who you can trust and know how to be a True friend to those that call you the same.

Blessings

Answered by Sincere (4real@concerned.all) from 207.172.146.81 on June 15, 1999.

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Sincere (4real@concerned.all) on 1999-06-15: Response to Why Paul Milne is a Polly

-- Anonymous, June 15, 1999

Answers

Break time... again.

Diane

-- Anonymous, June 15, 1999

those are all the dns of the erols.com servers in Annandale VA, about 10 miles from where I live... this guy is trying really hard to get a line on me...interesting.

Arlin

-- Anonymous, June 15, 1999

Arlin the following OUGHT to go without saying but....

1) Always have a plan B

2) It's ALWAYS loaded

3) When playing cards, NEVER point your ass toward the door

4) Friends outnumber enemy

Chuck

-- Anonymous, June 15, 1999