Is it just me or is there an underlying tone of oppression in this forum?

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Don't talk to the trolls, they aren't human!

Thats just so funny I had to post it in a seperate thread. I mean come one... why NOT talk to trolls? Is there some kind of fear there that if you talk to trolls you might be flushed out as being WRONG? Why the opposition to debate people who don't take the stand the majority of people take? And don't give me the bull about how debating isn't the point of this forum. This forum has evolved into something ed yourdon didn't intend and you can't change that. Don't try and fall back on something that pathetic for an excuse not to converse with "trolls".

Respond to this post or don't respond, it doesn't matter. Just wanted to see how far along your Y2K subculture has grown.

-- (AES2010@al.com), February 17, 1999

Answers

Alert.

-- Vic (Roadrunner@compliant.com), February 17, 1999.

People, this troll has already gotten way more responses than he should have. Just ignore.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), February 17, 1999.

We've tried growing some of those Y2k subclutures here at he Bears den. Yep, all you had to do was look through the microscope of scrutiny and there they were crawling around. (Upon poper genetic analysissome had an extra gene - the D gene.)

Problem was, when you brought them out into the light of information and clear thinking most died. Almost all. All the ones with GI genes lived. Those with the added deadly D gene - well they.....didn't.

So sad, guess we'll try yogurt next.

-- Greybear, but please, whatever you do, don't mention cheese again.

- Got Culture?

-- Greybear (greybear@home.com), February 17, 1999.


Take a look at this. It goes a long way to explain their behaviour.

http://www.mcs.net/~aaron/tmc.htm

BTW I sign my name Troll because they gave me the name. I could care less what they call me and I have every right to speak my mind as they do.

Troll Maria

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), February 17, 1999.


Better cheese than the right word, huh, Greybear? m games? anagramatically?

-- Vic (Roadrunner@compliant.com), February 17, 1999.


It's just you...

Nobody here advocates NOT talking to people who are ignorant of the issues, misunderstanding of specifics, wrong about their information, differing in opinion or just plain clueless. People here DO advocate NOT wasting time responding to people who just want to waste the forum's time and energy.

I have seen instances of new people coming along and asking the stupidest questions you can possibly imagine, and forum regulars pouring out positive responses by the tubful. That will happen when a new poster, no matter how clueless is SINCERE! That's the key.

I've read a couple of posts of yours, and you seem to me to be totally insincere. There are regulars here who think the doomers are crazy, and the doomers respect those opinions, debate the specifics and welcome the sincerity of their positions. You can't put much past this crowd, and sincerity, no matter what one's position is, is one of the first things that will be judged.

I think you may just have gotten flamed, and are stinging from it. Give it a rest, learn the lingo, decide who and what you are, and come back when you're ready to tangle with people who know what they are talking about and who know what they believe...

-- pshannon (pshannon@inch.com), February 17, 1999.


It's just you, now fuck off troll.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), February 17, 1999.

I agree with AES. There should be a law restricting this type of behaviour. There's too much crap/misinformation on the internet, and AES is trying to point this out. When he tries to bring up this point, he is squelched.

-- Too much anarchy (rulestooloose@notenuffgovt.com), February 17, 1999.

Troll haiku:

Trolls are rude in posts,

Sneering at well-read, good people.

Must not talk to trolls.

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), February 17, 1999.


Naw, Vic, no anagrams. Just a bear-like personality. The real bears, ursus horribilis. And a lot of grey in the hairline.

-- Greybear (greybear@home.com), February 17, 1999.


AES2010,

Discussing the issues with someone like Troll Maria (who isn't a troll) helps all of us clarify our positions.

You, though, like to stir up the minority of people on this forum who post before they think. Your goal is to get anyone who can upset, so that the rest of us who are calmly preparing for Y2K look ridiculous.

I'll discuss evidence with you, however. What do you think about this Chicago Tribune article on whether or not Chicago is ready for Y2K?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/version1/article/0,1575,SAV- 9901010066,00.html

-- Kevin (mixesmusic@worldnet.att.net), February 17, 1999.


It's actually overtroll oppression.

Yes, I'm speaking to you ... one more time, I repeat:

Check and verify. I see no evidence that you are doing any of that. Just ranting.

Hardly a valuable contribution here, or anywhere. If the Y2K "news" is so good and accurate, then post it. With links. And cite several sources to "round out" your research.

You DID learn "how to" research in school, didn't you? Or did you just skip class?

Diane, Information Navigator

Try it -- you might learn something, or not.

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), February 17, 1999.


Andy:

Get real

Pshannon:

I'm not hurt, I'm just pointing out the obvious. And whenever I point out the obvious you all jump on the "kill the troll" bandwagon. Just look at Andy's response??? Is that the work of a sincere, well informed mind? yeah right

-- (AE2010@aol.com), February 17, 1999.


AE2010,

You liked it when you were able to get Andy upset, didn't you?

Care to discuss some of these news articles from the mainstream press...

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000UdL

-- Kevin (mixesmusic@worldnet.att.net), February 17, 1999.


Care to continue our debate? If so, hurry up. I'm busy. <:). Paging AES2010

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), February 17, 1999.


AES2010,

You quoated on an earlier thread.."I Know one thing, this Y2K thing is manageable." Will you please give proof? Have you spent one hour investigating the real proof, that there is major problems that are not being addressed? I bet not. Why do you come to this forum? Please be honest. Why are you here?

I know your type well. Your biggest character defect is that you are extremely self-centered. You are an impulsive ego maniac. You beleive that you are right about most of your thoughts and that if the world would do things your way it would be a better place. According to Sigmund Freud ypur type of personality can never achieve true happiness. I would almost bet that you abuse alcohol. I bet you are also parsimoniously stingy. Take your own inventory pal before you come in here and take others. You owe the people on this forum an apology.

May GODS Will Be Done

Mike

-- flierdude (mkessler0101@sprynet.com), February 17, 1999.


Troll Maria:
I see you're back -- you never did respond with SUBSTANTIVE indications of good (positive) news (re: a thread some time back)

-- vbProg (vbProg@MicroSoftSucks.com), February 17, 1999.

"I'm not hurt, I'm just pointing out the obvious. And whenever I point out the obvious you all jump on the "kill the troll" bandwagon. Just look at Andy's response??? Is that the work of a sincere, well informed mind? yeah right"

Actually, Troll, it is the work of a sincere, well informed mind. So now you can fuck off, OK?

I am not in the least upset with your ilk, I'm just rather impatient answering foolish questions that have all been answered before on this forum.

You are so dumb you can't be bothered to go back on previous threads to find things out for yourself.

Not the first, won't be the last - so fuck off Troll.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), February 17, 1999.


Troll=1 Yourdonites=0 One more time. Quit taking the bait.

I am internally prompted to quote my favorite phrase:

Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time, and annoys the pig.

-- Donna Barthuley (moment@pacbell.net), February 17, 1999.


AES2010

We use trolls like you for Saga fodder.

Logic and reasoning in the face of facts escapes you people.

So we are entertained by you instead.

Andy - -

Don't get mad,

Get creative.

Got plot points?

-- INVAR (gundark@aol.com), February 17, 1999.


Readers take note:

AES2010 said in this thread (above) "I rest my case"

We'll see if he is a man of his word or if he tries to reopen his case.

-- Greybear, gender specific terms are used for ease of communication and brevity sake. You mileage may vary.

-- Greybear (greybear@home.com), February 17, 1999.


My reference, Greybear, oblique though it was, alluded to the correct name of that "cheese" that came up earlier. Look at it again. I was merely trying to send the thread in a different direction. The anagram was games with an extra m.

-- Vic (Roadrunner@compliant.com), February 17, 1999.

Why SUCh FOOLISHNESS??? UnderLYING TONE??? Are youSO THICK AS TO be blIND??? IT IS IN THE OPEN FOR ALL TO SEE!!!! You CANNOT??? EVEN FOOLS SEE the opPRESSIOns here DAILY!!! WHY DO YOU HuRT MY BRaIN WITH FOOLISH QueSTIONS???

I HAtE YOU!!!

-- Dieter (questions@toask.com), February 17, 1999.


I have to disagree, I must admit I enjoy reading Andy, Greybear, Invar and other regulars intellectually back-handing this dumb bastard. For anyone new on here, who might think we're mistreating poor AES. On an earlier post, AES stated, and I'm paraphrasing here "I'm not going to prepare, if things get bad I have no problem getting in touch with my savage side". In other words he plans on becoming a predator. So here's a predator alert for all the GI. Be on the lookout for one AES Description - reeaal skinny and extreeeemely stupid looking

-- RB (R@AR.COM), February 17, 1999.

There, everybody, LOOK !!! Above :^D He outted himself!
Welcome back, JIMMY BAGGA DOUGHNUTS !!
Clever psycho coat ya put on this time, YA HeAR! FUnKnEE!
IT cOUld beCOmE CONtagEWous TOo.

HeeHee, Invar, our resident troll is back. Swelling must've gone down. Your language patterns and tag line gave you away, sweetie frosting. Addiction to this Forum harder to break than sugar.

The troll's come home! Munchkin song time.

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-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), February 17, 1999.


I wiLL NOW PULL OUT 1 miNUTE OF SANITY OUT of MY HAT!!!!HOW is it THATSO MAnY FOOLS CAN BE THOsE WHO get it??? WHAT Causes SO MAHNY WHO see the inTERCONNECTIONS OF DOOM TO ACtlike FOOLS??? WHY DO YOU INSIST THAT I AM The one OF MANY DONUTS???? CAN YOU notatall THINK??? do yOU NOT see the DIFFErEnce in my EXPOSURE OF FOOLISHNESS???? HE of MANy donuts DIDNOT EXPOSE FOOLIsHNESS BUT WAS A FOOL HIMSELF!!! A FOOL I SAy!!! HE SAiD NOpROBLEM, DID he not???? I SEE the problem DARKLY LOOMING iN THE MIST of TIME< DId the GLAZED ONE SEE THE END???? NO!!! DO I??? YES!!!! WHY oh heLP ME WHY CAN YOU NOT See thaT??? HOW IS IT the same???

gO LESKA AND BE A FOOL NO MORE!!1!

-- Dieter (questions@toask.com), February 17, 1999.


I've been on this forum in different incarnations for about the past year. Lots of serious folks, trolls, DGI's, GI's ect. Question. Does it seem to some of you that Y2K is becoming a hobby ? I don't have many hobbies myself, but TEOTWAWKI doesn't seem productive. Let us all help each other prepare, pass on good information, address concerns of new folks, but all this useless chatter does not help, it seems to me. If you need a hobby, take up water polo, or bear baiting, or something besides USELESS CHAT. just a thought..........

-- reed moore (reed_moore@postmaster.co.uk), February 17, 1999.

Go Leska! YeeHaw! THIS iS fuN. thE dARKer sIDe oF JBD! thE OGREedment to mAKe oUR POSiTion lOOK wHACKo. fLIP FLOP wAFfLe JBD. ALL wHO thINK tHIS WAY haVE sKEWed VISIon. dOOMers BeWARE. PeER prASSure to mAKE US lOOK fOOLisH. DUmbo MUMbo jUMbo.

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-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), February 17, 1999.


You know Leska - I just sent that through my spell checker for this forum - and it passed!

-- Robert A. Cook, P.E. (Kennesaw, GA) (cook.r@csaatl.com), February 17, 1999.

You want to talk let's talk! Let's talk about my boss telling me today that the guy in charge of repairing citi-(----)s credit card division said that "the one portion of the infrastructure he didn't think would make it was the banks"! NOW WHAT! I have known my boss for over 15 years and my boss tells it like it is. Hey don't believe me I don't care, but ask yourself one question, what do I have to gain by telling a lie. How can I make a dollar from it, the truth is I can't, And more importantly I don't want to. Read my threads I don't want y2k to have any impact on America, however don't expect me to sit back with what I know and do nothing! Tman...

-- Tman (Tman@IBAgeek.com), February 17, 1999.

mY eYEs hURt.

MOvE iMmeDiAte

-- MVI (Vtoc@aol.com), February 17, 1999.


Robert, LOL, I have fallen thru the cracks! Nnnnnnnoooooooooooo
Hey, I really need a spell checker. Been afraid to install Word on our pristine iMac. Got Office 98 sittin in the box. Envy your forum speller. Oh weel ;-)

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-- Leska (allaha@earthlink.net), February 17, 1999.


AES - you seem to be worried by MISinformation, but you don't seem to be concerned about DISinformation. Here are a few samples from the mass media from the last few days. Please tell us what you think about this issue -

http:/ /www.cnnfn.com/digitaljam/newsbytes/126096.html

http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/y2k/y2k_intro.html

http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/02/biztech/ articles/14john.html

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/national/990213/2273979.html

http://www.techweb.com/se/directlink.cgi?IWK19990215S0075

http:// search2.usatoday.com/plweb-cgi/fastweb?state_id=919055114&view= default&docrank=3&numhitsfound=8&query=koskinen%20banks&query_rule= %28$query%29&docid=5725&docdb=cyber&dbnam=all&operator=AND& TemplateName=predoc.tmpl&setCookie=1

http:// www.cbn.org/y2k/insights.asp?file=990216c.htm

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 000OvB

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/comment/ 0,5859,2209104,00.html

-- pshannon (pshannon@inch.com), February 17, 1999.


AES2010,

Did I strike a sour cord there pal. I sensed rage in your reply. Once I leave after answering on one of these threads, I never come back again. I had to come back to this one because I knew you would reply. You know why? Because I know your type. I hit the nail right on the head with this one, didn't I buddy? Your lieing to yourself or your not intelligent enough to take your own inventory. Your everthing I said. Does your wife hit you? See, I told you I know your type. You said" GODS WILL?". You bet ya buddy. Everyday. You muddle through life FORCING your will to be done. Correct?

You also gave your personality away when you said something like "getting in touch with your savage side." More proof of your stingyness. Your not willing to spend your own money to insure and protect your familys well being. But your willing to steal what you need if necessary. Your type is the reason I found it necessary to spend $6000.00 on group protection. Don't come around here boy unless you plan on keeping my shoes spit shined in return for shelter.

May GODS Will Be Done,

Mike

-- flierdude (mkessler0101@sprynet.com), February 17, 1999.


AES2010,

I'm ROTFLMBO. Around my neck of the woods your referred to as a candy ass. Don't come round here boy. LOLOLOLOLOL. GODS WILL BE DONE,

Mike

-- flierdude (mkessler0101@sprynet.com), February 18, 1999.


AES2010,

Is it just me or is there an underlying tone of oppression in this forum?

What are you, fuckin nuts. That is without a doubt the dumbest thing ever. No offense man, but are you new to the language or something?

fuck you inveer

that will get me censored soon but these plastic keys will last a long time

-- dirty old bastard (home@heart.com), February 18, 1999.


THOMAS W. CHITTUM

-- (LURK@LURKER.LURKING), February 18, 1999.



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