christianity sucks

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 14, 2005

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it really sucks

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 14, 2005.

That's a little vague. What about Christianity don't you like? I mean, trust me, I'm no fan of organized religion by any stretch of the imagination, but Jesus was a good guy and had a lot of good ideas. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater here. My problem is more with organized Christianity and how it generaly turns into a corrupt, hypocritical organization. I mean, look at all this shit we have in this country from the religious right. Hell, to listen to them, you'd think Jesus personaly endorsed the Republican Party (he didn't). You MUST support George Bush, or you go to hell. My favorite slogan is "What would Jesus do?". Well, for starters, Jesus wouldn't be melting Iraqis alive with napalm. Seems to me that would be near the top of his list. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting the Bible, but I get the impression Jesus wouldn't like that sort of thing. He also wouldn't approve of the fact that the world's richest nation has millions of people who go to bed hungry, because their government decides to spend it's money on finding newer and fancier ways of killing people.

Jesus was a revolutionary, man. He was all about helping the poor, treating everyone as equals, loving your enemies, and fighting against an unjust system. The fact that George Bush, a man who believes in NONE of these things (or John Kerry, for that matter), can call himself a Christian, is astounding.

SDQA, you ever read anything by Voltaire? I think you'd enjoy him.

-- Anti-Bush (comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), February 14, 2005.

no i didn't...

i didn't say that jesus sucks...well he sucks a lot in some aspects...probably the most important aspects for christians...yes if you'd take away the dogmas,the son of god/saviour who had to die for our sins thing and the miracles than jesus would be a pretty nice guy i think

but the main thing christianity seems to go about are actually those things...

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 14, 2005.

"He also wouldn't approve of the fact that the world's richest nation has millions of people who go to bed hungry, because their government decides to spend it's money on finding newer and fancier ways of killing people. "--Anti-Bush.

This country does allow for millions of people who go to bed hungry to wake up in a free nation without the terrorism happening to them in their homes, as a result of spending tons of money to kill the bad guys. What about that?

SDQA-

So, you do believe Jesus existed? Hmm.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), February 15, 2005.

"This country does allow for millions of people who go to bed hungry to wake up in a free nation without the terrorism happening to them in their homes, as a result of spending tons of money to kill the bad guys. What about that?"

how about this? i break a bridge so that i can later save all those people who fell in the water and come out as a hero

there would be no terrorists if there was no middle east who they need to control...there would be no terrorists if they didn't need your support for their wars in afghanistan and iraq...there would be no terrorists if they didn't need an excuse to control everyone...

don't you get it dude?

you governement doesn't give a fuck about you

they are the only terrorists here

they are the ones behind 9/11...they needed an excuse for everything...combined with a lot of fear...well they found a good one...

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 15, 2005.

how about this? i break a bridge so that i can later save all those people who fell in the water and come out as a hero

That is obviously wrong.

there would be no terrorists if there was no middle east who they need to control...

Are you justifying terrorist actions against innocent people? That would be wrong.

there would be no terrorists if they didn't need your support for their wars in afghanistan and iraq...

There would be no terrorists if every single one of them were stopped. That is logical.

there would be no terrorists if they didn't need an excuse to control everyone...

I do follow your line of thinking. Huh?

don't you get it dude?

Huh?

you governement doesn't give a fuck about you

Perhaps, but they are run by the people.

they are the only terrorists here

I don't see that.

they are the ones behind 9/11...they needed an excuse for everything...combined with a lot of fear...well they found a good one...

I suppose that you have evidence to support your assertion?

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), February 15, 2005.

well i think it's obvious...iraq has proven their 'good intentions'...they needed something to scare the ppl so that they can start a war and have a reason to start a war...just watch fahrenheit 9/11...everything is been proven there...

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 15, 2005.

and where is your proof that al qaeda did it?

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 15, 2005.

Does it matter who did it? A terrorist is a terrorist. They must be stopped. America is too slow. America should have put a stop to things way back during WWII. We should never have gotten involved with the Saudis in the way we did.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), February 15, 2005.

the usa did it!...damn

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 15, 2005.

"This country does allow for millions of people who go to bed hungry to wake up in a free nation without the terrorism happening to them in their homes, as a result of spending tons of money to kill the bad guys. What about that?"

Please. There is no reason we need to be spending HALF OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET on war. There is NO EXCUSE for the world's richest nation to have the kind of poverty we have. No other industrialized nation has it. The UK Doesn't have it. Canada doesn't. Frace doesn't, the Netherlands doesn't, Germany doesn't (Ok, Ireland does, to an extent)...I can't say I have any idea what God wants, and I don't think anybody else has a clue either, but I am damn sure that Jesus, the guy who spent his entire life helping the poor, wouldn't be too thrilled about this.

Invading Iraq does not fall under "defending our freedom". Iraq never attacked us. Certain terrorists did, and they are more likely to be in Saudi Arabia than anywhere else. I would support a war against Saudi Arabia, and I even supported the war i Afghanistan, more or less, but Iraq was not our fight. They had NO weapons, they were not aiding terrorists, and I really don't think it's worth our soldiers' lives to "free the Iraqis". $200 billion dollars that could have been spent on so many other useful things, but was instead spent on senseless violence.

"Perhaps, but they are run by the people."

The rich people.

-- Anti-Bush (comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), February 15, 2005.

the war in afghanistan was also unnessecary...nobody proved a thing about osama or al qaeda...do you actually believe that terrorists are threatning the usa anti-bush?

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 15, 2005.

Of course terrorists are threatening the US. What the fuck do you think happened on 9/11? Now, I agree, there are aspects of those attacks that our government is not sharing with us, and I would really like a FULL disclosure, not that half-assed 9/11 Report they put out. But come on. Do you honestly believe the government planned 9/11? Why would those in power (wealthy buisinessmen and the military-industrial complex) want to hurt their own people (HINT: who do you think was in the Pentagon and the World Trade Center when the planes hit?).

-- Anti-Bush (comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), February 15, 2005.

"Of course terrorists are threatening the US. What the fuck do you think happened on 9/11? Now, I agree, there are aspects of those attacks that our government is not sharing with us, and I would really like a FULL disclosure, not that half-assed 9/11 Report they put out. But come on. Do you honestly believe the government planned 9/11? Why would those in power (wealthy buisinessmen and the military-industrial complex) want to hurt their own people (HINT: who do you think was in the Pentagon and the World Trade Center when the planes hit?). "

[their own ppl?

do you really think they give a fuck about 'their own ppl'?

how many ppl lost their jobs after 9/11 and still don't have one...what have bush & co done about that he?...pretending that they are sorry about the victims

off course it was planned dude...suddenly out of nothing some terrorists come to attack the usa

damnit man the world trade center...the symbol of america's power and wealth...they wanted to scare the hell out of ppl so that they can invade their fucken afghanistan...they needed to get the ppl behind them to support their political actions...and they need a reason to control everyone

whole this terrorism bullshit is nothing but a fairy tale...

i mean this is so obvious...i thought you saw fahrenheit 9/11? it's all nicely explained there

doesn't iraq say enough...

and why shouldn't they have planned 9/11? why wouldn't they do that? who can stop them?]-sdqa

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 15, 2005.

No, dude, think about who was IN the WTC. Rich, white buisinessmen. Why would an establishment CONTROLLED by rich, white buisiness men want to to hurt their friends? This isn't an issue of patriotism or love of your own people, because I don't think George Bush gives a shit about the American people. It's an issue of plain self-interest.

What did you see in Farenheit 9/11 that you could have possibly construed into proof of a government conspiracy behind 9/11??? Come on, man. What EVIDENCE do you have of this? Now, I believe that our government could have prevented it, but the reason that they didn't was not some sinister plan, it was just sheer idiacy and inneptitude in our government. Dubya was a alseep at the wheel. Nothing sinister about it. That doesn't mean it's ok, but there wasn't any conspiracy.

And no, 9/11 didn't come from "nothing", it came from twenty years of bullshit foreign policy and corporate greed. Our leaders fucked with the Middle East for two decades, and they decided to strike back, and INNOCENT AMERICANS paid the price.

-- Anti-Bush (comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), February 15, 2005.

"No, dude, think about who was IN the WTC. Rich, white buisinessmen. Why would an establishment CONTROLLED by rich, white buisiness men want to to hurt their friends? This isn't an issue of patriotism or love of your own people, because I don't think George Bush gives a shit about the American people. It's an issue of plain self-interest."

[oh...a reason more why it was in the WTC towers...ever heard of concurention?

no man...there are no terrorists,besides bush & co then...it's pretty obvious...whole fahrenheit 9/11 reveals everything...how bush has contacts with the bin ladens...gave him a private jet to saudi arabia after 9/11...but i mean the whole story...you don't have to be a genius to see it...the way they fight terrorism...the mother's milk is dangerous but 4 lighters aren't...the old guy at the gym...only one policemen on duty in oregon...their methodes are explained...their actions are explained...they needed to scare the people...let's say...that terrorists are really planning to attack the usa any second now...who's there to protect you? your president...your governement...your army...would you want their protection? or just die in a terrorist attack? the average american is dumb(sorry but that's the truth) they needed to pump up the fear among the people so that there was no doubt about invading afghanistan...and this whole scary atmosphere was created...terrorists threatning the usa...they needed a reason to start these wars...and they needed people to get behind them...and what is your comment about the bin laden tape,just before the elections? i mean dude...it's obvious...they needed an excuse to invade those countries...they needed to get the people behind them...and they needed to take huge money to 'fight' terrorism...i think we saw in fahrenheit 9/11 how they are fighting it...and yeah off course...they needed a reason to bring up the patriot act...so that they can control everyone and that everyone who could possible stand in their way gets fucked...every rational person would see behind the truth behind these manipulations...don't buy into this crap...think dude...

and where's your proof that there is an international terrorist network who attacked the usa at 9/11?

because your retarded president tells you so?

because your media tells you?]-sdqa

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 16, 2005.

Hangnails suck.

-- Tara (curiouser@curiouserandcuriouser.com), February 16, 2005.

No, no, no...all Farenheit 9/11 proves is that our government just doesn't GIVE A SHIT about terrorism...not that it doesn't exist. If the Bush administration HAD orchestrated 9/11, and got to make up their own bad guy, why not just do it in a way that pins the entire thing on Saddam? Seems to me that would be a much more convenient way of doing things. If Bush could have picked any bad guy in the world, why would he have picked the one that HIS FAMILY HAS TIES TO?? He wouldn't have. But Bin Laden DID IT, so now Dubya's got no choice but to pretend to hunt him down.

I'll ask again...have you actualy seen any EVIDENCE that suggests that our government had a role in 9/11?

-- Anti-Bush (comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), February 16, 2005.

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/

-- Clicknoevil (not@a.chance), February 17, 2005.

"No, no, no...all Farenheit 9/11 proves is that our government just doesn't GIVE A SHIT about terrorism...not that it doesn't exist. If the Bush administration HAD orchestrated 9/11, and got to make up their own bad guy, why not just do it in a way that pins the entire thing on Saddam? Seems to me that would be a much more convenient way of doing things. If Bush could have picked any bad guy in the world, why would he have picked the one that HIS FAMILY HAS TIES TO?? He wouldn't have. But Bin Laden DID IT, so now Dubya's got no choice but to pretend to hunt him down."

[the bush family are friends with osama

bush & co are evil bastards who invaded iraq for the control of the huge oil supplies and are planning to invade more of the middle east,they want to achieve economic domination this way,because oil will be needed a lot in the future

after the 9/11 attacks bush provided a private plane to get osama to saudi arabia

after that the usa invaded afghanistan and later iraq

don't all these facts prove that if osama's men are behind it that the reason he made them do it was a deal with the us governement so that they actually have a reason to invade afghanistan,that isn't even close to the us military power...why did they need afghanistan? well the gas pipe,but also to have their strategic base in the middle east...why would osama do this to his friends? and his friends later give him an airplane and let him go? they needed an excuse for everything,they needed to make the people afraid,they want to control everyone...that's a fact...this was to best way to do so...they don't give a shit about fighting terrorism,yet take huge money from the taxes for it,they control all the terrorism...why didn't osama attack after 9/11? because they eliminated al qaeda please.....don't all the osama tapes show that he is collaborating with them?

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 18, 2005.

"the bush family are friends with osama."

EXACTLY! If 9/11 was the work of Dubya and friends, why would he pin the plame on a family he has close ties with? How the fuck does that work?

"after the 9/11 attacks bush provided a private plane to get osama to saudi arabia"

Ok, you just made that one up. No he didn't. Osama was never in the United States. Several members of the bin Laden family were, and Dubya allowed THEM to fly out of the country, but he never provided a private plane to fly Osama anywhere. Come on, dude, don't make shit up. There are plenty of reasons to hate Bush without pulling some out of your ass.

"don't all these facts prove that if osama's men are behind it that the reason he made them do it was a deal with the us governement so that they actually have a reason to invade afghanistan,that isn't even close to the us military power...why did they need afghanistan? well the gas pipe,but also to have their strategic base in the middle east...why would osama do this to his friends? and his friends later give him an airplane and let him go? they needed an excuse for everything,they needed to make the people afraid,they want to control everyone...that's a fact...this was to best way to do so...they don't give a shit about fighting terrorism,yet take huge money from the taxes for it,they control all the terrorism...why didn't osama attack after 9/11? because they eliminated al qaeda please.....don't all the osama tapes show that he is collaborating with them? "

NO! NOTHING you have said so far has proven ANYTHING. You are stringing together a bunch of facts, half of which you made up, and claiming that they somehow prove your point. They don't. I agree, Dubya's execution of the war on terrorism has been abyssmal. He's gone after the wrong people and it is painfully obvious his only real motive is to do what's best for big buisiness. But how does that prove that 9/11 was a conspiracy by the US government? All it proves is that Dubya cares more about protecting his family's (and the Carlyle Group's) interests than protecting the American people. The Bush family and the Saud and bin Laden families make a lot of money off of each other. If Bush was going to orchestrate a fake terrorist attack, why would he blame it on his own buisiness partners? It makes no fucking sense.

Here is the truth: the right wing wanted something like 9/11 to happen, no doubt about it. They have had all this shit on the shelf for ten years, and 9/11 gave them the justification to do the things they wanted: invade a bunch of countries to support the oil companies, raise the defense budget to support the defense companies, and pass laws like the PATRIOT Act to start peeling away at our freedom. So the right definitely benefitted from 9/11. But that doesn't mean they were behind it. The Bush administration used the attacks as an excuse to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, but ignored the real source of the terrorists' recources– Saudi Arabia –because it would be bad for his buisiness partners. See? No elaborate conspiracy, just a bunch of corrupt motherfuckers who were asleep at the wheel when 9/11 happened and then used it to justify their bullshit policies.

I'm going to keep asking this until you answer: Can you PROVE that Bush was behind it? Because all you've put forward so far is a gross misinterpretation of something Michael Moore said; big kids use evidence.

-- Anti-Bush (comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), February 18, 2005.

christianity is the real heavy metal

-- jews for satan in denmark (RingofFire112001@aol.com), February 21, 2005.

Here is the truth: the right wing wanted something like 9/11 to happen, no doubt about it. They have had all this shit on the shelf for ten years, and 9/11 gave them the justification to do the things they wanted

[if they want this so bad,they would just do it like they have done it,they found the right man to blame and to play along in their game(the video's etc...)why the fuck would they 'wait' for something like this to happen? the chance that something like this happens is one to a million or something and their friend's men were behind it(if they were...but let's say so)doesn't this say enough? you say why should they put the blame on one of their business partners...why should none of their business partners attack them? just out of nothing,without any purpose or plan,without gaining anything by doing so...why would he do it? 'just like that'? makes no sense man...ok you say why they put the blame on their friend...but what blame? what harm are they causing him by putting the 'blame' on him? like they are gonna do something to him?...off course they needed to blame one of their friends,who else would play the game? who else would keep saying threatning words and sending video's just before of the elections?

you ask for evidence...here's my evidence

1/your governement is corrupt and wants cash

2/your president's friend is bin laden

3/your governement needed 9/11 to happen for various reasons

4/your governement needed someone to blame for 9/11 and someone who would play the game with them

5/by putting the blame on osama they are causing him absolutely no harm

6/your governement provides private jets for the bin ladens after 9/11 to save their asses after he attacked the usa,i mean if they do THIS after he attacked them...why couldn't they just be simply involved in the conspiracy also?

7/by attacking the usa on 9/11 bin laden makes no single gain,the attack on 9/11 is complete unlogical and bin laden had no motive or reason to do it

8/why would bin laden attack his friends?

9/the us governement needed 9/11 to happen,the 4.5 years that bush is president shows how much power they have and how they can abuse it as much as they want and still get away with it...there is nothing that could stop them from conspiring 9/11]-sdqa

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 23, 2005.

I have to agree with Anti-bush for the more part of my answer but, when it comes to how exactly the christian bush is wasting money i see it as he is wasting money on other countries people. It blows me away how such a "good" man can be giving food and money to other countries when there are people dying daily in our country everyday.

-- Dublin (castiron_rose@yahoo.com), February 24, 2005.

anti-bush...?

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 27, 2005.

Where are good people dying by hunger in America? You've got to be kidding... every single county in the country has a local government food bank, plus church food banks, plus a gazillion charities, soup kitchens, etc.

The States and Federal government spend HUNDREDS of billions on "the poor": food stamps, subsidized housing, special training and education options, etc. etc.

The only people who could possibly starve to death in the USA are those who don't ask for help. Because help is all around us my friend - and so are jobs....

But this country isn't a socialist police state where all people are controlled and curfews are in effect and people's food intakes are rationed and supervised by the local gestapo. Is that what you want? A system that runs the whole country like a prison - where people are forcibly hauled into the dinning room, fed, clothed, de-loused and then returned to their work positions or cells?

-- Joe (joestong@yahoo.com), February 28, 2005.

Umm...when did I say anyone was dying of hunger? What are you talking about?

-- Anti-Bush (comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), February 28, 2005.

anti-bush...scroll a little up...i posted my evidence and i'm still waiting for a reply...

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), February 28, 2005.

anti-bush...?...

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), March 08, 2005.