Socialism

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I remember hearing a radio show someone bringing up that he believes in socialism instead of capitalism. Actually i think it was that guy from the daily show, Lewis black. The Other guy said noway it always leads to facism. I thought wtf for a few years. Socialism production and distributing of goods is owned by the people. Imagine a society Where every one has enough, no one needs or they at least share poverty. there are no fat cats hoarding the cash, buying and controling political power. The problem is that the goverment distributes the goods, the gov. slowly takes more and more control of peoples lives. If this could be changed socialism is no less a system then capitalism. Allow me to preach a bit. our consumer culture affects the way we talk, trends come and go every few years. we buy bright shiny boxes, those neon colors are only there to get your attention at the store. As our society becomes more empty and soulless, people like me will look to socialism as a possiblity. This isn't an excersize in intellectualism, there's no reason to feel threatened. No doubt there are greater minds here, please enlighten me.

-- Asterothe (FuloSht@tek.com), December 23, 2004

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I hope we can correct our system before socialism looks more appealing. The ultra rich need to be controlled. They own the media. they own the oil. they keep gobbling up their competition. insurance is a mess. medical is denied to 45 million. If we go socialist we will lose our ambition and that sucks. we will gain the attitude that the government pretends to pay us so we pretend to work. We need to take the power out of the ultra rich and still keep this a democracy. I am for socialized medicine even though initially it would hurt our economy. I believe the oil under our ground is the people's. I believe the airwaves are the people's. How do we redistribute it without major upheavel is a topic of interest. We need some type of government reform and no it does not mean lowering the ultra rich's taxes and increasing our Bush Deficits.

-- Bill Brasky (brasky@socializemedicine.com), December 23, 2004.

Good points good posts.There is such a thing as democratic socialism. I think u mean keep it capitalist. how about Modifying this so the (Soc)gov. is limited, One p ositive is less crime there is no need to steal from ur brother if u are an educated and equal part of society. to him with skill is better then to him with need.

-- Asterothe (Fulosht@tek.com), December 23, 2004.

I missed this the first time i read it.. I believe the oil under our ground is the people's. I believe the airwaves are the people's. i never thought of that.. wow

-- Asterothe (Fulosht@tek.com), December 23, 2004.

I believe you are thinking of communism. Socialism is quite different. In a socialist society, a few key industries are government-run, and everything else is left to free enterprise, although many industries are heavily regulated. We have some socialistic programs already, such as welfare, medicare, and medicaid. Those are a good start, but we;ve got a long way to go.

-- Anti-Bush (comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), December 23, 2004.

I am the victim of misinformation then.. it's sounds good to me wtf..

-- asterothe (FuloSht@tek.com), December 23, 2004.


so... what is the difference between conventional socialism and the so-called "mixed economy" in which we (that is to say, most of the industrialised nations of the world apart from the communist ones) now operate in? Isn't this "mixed economy" just a half arsed attempt at indoctrinating grass-roots scocialist values into the capitalist system in order to gian popular support?

-- my name is of no importance (anarchicpolo@hotmail.com), December 24, 2004.

capitalism and socialism both seem to take away freedom. Look at what the FCC has done by taking shock jocks off the airwaves except that drug addict Rush limbaugh. How much money do we have to pay for our products if Bill Cosby or Michael Jordan endorses it is the other end of it. Maybe the solution is to look at socialism and capitalism as a marriage. An old fasioned marriage that complement eachother. Is it possible? I have no idea to tell you the truth.

-- Bill Brasky (brasky@savedemocracy.com), December 24, 2004.

I felt this thread was ineffective because my unposted question was not answered and my posted answer was incorrect. Why does the great concept of socialism not work when practiced? (if it doesn't work)

It was pretty lazy of me not to look it up. also, it's been hard to find a book on the topic. I found these links. Socialist economy http://cepa.newschool.edu/het/essays/paretian/social.htm

http://www.pww.org/article/articleprint/3740

http://library.thinkquest.org/11369/social.htm

http://www.bergonia.org/economy2.htm

Other stuff i found

http://www.zmag.org/socagend.htm

http://www.geocities.com/philoguide/socfaq.html

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0703/0703socwon.htm

http://www.socialistparty.net/

http://www.greaterthings.com/Conspiracy/

-- Asterothe (Fulosht@tek.com), December 25, 2004.


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-- ~*AngelGoten*~ (angelgoten@hotmail.com), January 08, 2005.

I am no longer a socialist, money and power has converted me! I prob won't ever be a millionaire but it's ok money and power are good. I am not an enemy of kobe.

-- Asterothe (..@..com), January 14, 2005.


As the cost of producing food and clothing as well as other human needs becomes cheaper, easier to come by, this will seem more like a possiblity. Something similiar to socialism should be the future.. *last post*

-- -- Asterothe (,,@,..com), January 14, 2005.

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