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A USAF Airman's Impression of John Kerry

Posted on 04/18/2004 4:55:43 AM PDT by tomball

Greeting Friends,

I was compelled to forward this along to you as a must read. It's about Senator John Kerry... and how he is a surprisingly good role model for our Air Force. Please read the following and then forward this again to folks you know so that you can do your part and do your civic duty. Have a nice day.

waltjune@tnni.net

Subject: From Air Force Pilot Chris Thomas

I would like to add my two cents about my John Kerry experience. During my career as an Air Force pilot, I spent two years flying a small twin engine prop plane around the Pacific from my base in Okinawa, Japan. On one trip we had to fly Senator Kerry, his congressional aide, and a Navy Captain (Vietnam, A-4 fighter pilot) who was also in Kerry's party to various locations in Vietnam and Cambodia as part of the MIA/POW talks. When I met him, he was wearing a shirt with a picture of his sailboat on it. I told him I had a 27' sailboat in Okinawa. He remarked "Oh I never sail on anything less than 135 feet."

Thanks, Senator, "I feel even better about the meager salary I get paid for flying your mega-wealthy ass around the Pacific."

When we first flew him into Phnom Penh, he went to the back of the airplane and grabbed the pizza that was put aside for the crew and passed it around to his staff. He was never offered any pizza because they were supposed to have lunch with the Cambodian government when we landed. The pizza was the crew's only meal for that day and he ate it. Then when we picked him up in Cambodia, he was an hour late getting to the airport. Because fuel was an issue, we could not start the engines and therefore the air conditioning until he arrived. Phnom Penh at that time was over 100 degrees with 95% humidity and we were basically sitting in a greenhouse behind the cockpit windows. When he finally did arrive, we were wringing out our clothes from the perspiration. He walks out of the air conditioned car, into the airplane and asks us "Could you guys get the air conditioning running, I'm a little warm?"

The other pilot had to physically restrain me from going back there and picking a fight. Then we took him into Noi Bai airfield in Hanoi. After we picked him up the next day (he stayed the night in Vietnam, we stayed in Bangkok) we taxied out, ran up the engines for takeoff, and noticed that our prop rpm was vibrating all over the place. We taxied off to the side to look at it, but there was a good possibility that there was an engine malfunction and the engine may fail if we took off with it.

Well, Mr. Senator sticks his head up in the cockpit and says "This plane WILL take off, I have a press conference in Bangkok in three hours!" (Maybe this is an indication of how he will run the FAA). American service members lives be damned, we had our Senatorial orders. We ran the engines again, and did not have the problem, so we took off and made it back. During the flight, he told everyone how he had taken a Cessna (a small General aviation plane) up with a fighter pilot, and the fighter pilot remarked that Kerry was one of the best pilots he had ever seen. I don't know about other pilots out there, but it's hard to imagine a little,single-engine prop plane pilot being able to show the "right stuff."

After Kerry left the plane, the Navy Captain came up to us, apologized and said basically that "he knows Kerry is a jerk" and that we should be glad we don't have to deal with him every day. __________________________________________________________

Your choice folks. Elections in November. You want a mega- millionaire ego-maniac it's-all-about-me crew-eating-pizza-ite like Kerry or maybe a Green Party candidate like Ralph Nader? Or, God forbid, maybe even re-elect George Bush, a nice God fearing Christian bent on protecting us from terrorist attacks on US soil? Hmmm, let's see? Continued freedom under Bush or bombs in our backyard under Kerry (who will be sailing on his"minimum 135' yacht").

As Fox would say, "we report. You decide."

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1 posted on 04/18/2004 4:55:44 AM PDT by tomball [ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]

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To: tomball John (nouveau riche) Kerry is a mannerless jerk.

2 posted on 04/18/2004 5:02:38 AM PDT by Quilla [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball What an ass*ole!

3 posted on 04/18/2004 5:08:00 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball You mean Kerry has actually been in Vietnam?

4 posted on 04/18/2004 5:08:14 AM PDT by Rebelbase [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball Very revealing document. Is this behaviour considered normal in Mass. (re: Kennedy, Frank etc.)?

5 posted on 04/18/2004 5:15:25 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: Rebelbase Lokks like he got in another short tour of duty. Suppose he put himself in for another medal? After all, he was a little warm? Purple Heart at least!

6 posted on 04/18/2004 5:17:12 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball Have never been able to verify the truth of this letter http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/pizza.asp

7 posted on 04/18/2004 5:20:37 AM PDT by pookie18 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: KSCITYBOY What an ass*ole! don't you mean a "Big Time Clymer"? LOL

8 posted on 04/18/2004 5:21:54 AM PDT by chainsaw (http://www.hanoijohnkerry.org.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball See Snopes which also quotes the following from Dave Barry: In conclusion, I want to extend my sincere best wishes to all of my opponents, Republican and Democrat, and to state that, in the unlikely event I am not elected, I will support whoever is, even if it is Sen. John Kerry, who once came, with his entourage, into a ski- rental shop in Ketchum, Idaho, where I was waiting patiently with my family to rent snowboards, and Sen. Kerry used one of his lackeys to flagrantly barge in line ahead of us and everybody else, as if he had some urgent senatorial need for a snowboard, like there was about to be an emergency meeting, out on the slopes, of the Joint Halfpipe Committee. I say it's time for us, as a nation, to put this unpleasant incident behind us. I know that I, for one, have forgotten all about it. That is how fair and balanced I am.

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THE REAL KERRY By HOWIE CARR

February 5, 2004 -- BOSTON

ONE of the surest ways to get the phones ringing on any Massachusetts talk-radio show is to ask people to call in and tell their John Kerry stories. The phone lines are soon filled, and most of the stories have a common theme: our junior senator pulling rank on one of his constituents, breaking in line, demanding to pay less (or nothing) or ducking out before the bill arrives.

The tales often have one other common thread. Most end with Sen. Kerry inquiring of the lesser mortal: "Do you know who I am?"

And now he's running for president as a populist. His first wife came from a Philadelphia Main Line family worth $300 million. His second wife is a pickle-and-ketchup heiress.

Kerry lives in a mansion on Beacon Hill on which he has borrowed $6 million to finance his campaign. A fire hydrant that prevented him and his wife from parking their SUV in front of their tony digs was removed by the city of Boston at his behest.

The Kerrys ski at a spa the widow Heinz owns in Aspen, and they summer on Nantucket in a sprawling seaside "cottage" on Hurlbert Avenue, which is so well-appointed that at a recent fund-raiser, they imported porta-toilets onto the front lawn so the donors wouldn't use the inside bathrooms. (They later claimed the decision was made on septic, not social, considerations).

It's a wonderful life these days for John Kerry. He sails Nantucket Sound in "the Scaramouche," a 42-foot Hinckley powerboat. Martha Stewart has a similar boat; the no-frills model reportedly starts at $695,000. Sen. Kerry bought it new, for cash.

Every Tuesday night, the local politicians here that Kerry elbowed out of his way on his march to the top watch, fascinated, as he claims victory in more primaries and denounces the special interests, the "millionaires" and "the overprivileged."

"His initials are JFK," longtime state Senate President William M. Bulger used to muse on St. Patrick's Day, "Just for Kerry. He's only Irish every sixth year." And now it turns out that he's not Irish at all.

But in the parochial world of Bay State politics, he was never really seen as Irish, even when he was claiming to be (although now, of course, he says that any references to his alleged Hibernian heritage were mistakenly put into the Congressional Record by an aide who apparently didn't know that on his paternal side he is, in fact, part-Jewish).

Kerry is, in fact, a Brahmin - his mother was a Forbes, from one of Massachusetts' oldest WASP families. The ancestor who wed Ralph Waldo Emerson's daughter was marrying down.

At the risk of engaging in ethnic stereotyping, Yankees have a reputation for, shall we say, frugality. And Kerry tosses around quarters like they were manhole covers. In 1993, for instance, living on a senator's salary of about $100,000, he managed to give a total of $135 to charity.

Yet that same year, he was somehow able to scrape together $8,600 for a brand-new, imported Italian motorcycle, a Ducati Paso 907 IE. He kept it for years, until he decided to run for president, at which time he traded it in for a Harley-Davidson like the one he rode onto "The Tonight Show" set a couple of months ago as Jay Leno applauded his fellow Bay Stater.

Of course, in 1993 he was between his first and second heiresses - a time he now calls "the wandering years," although an equally apt description might be "the freeloading years."

For some of the time, he was, for all practical purposes, homeless. His friends allowed him into a real-estate deal in which he flipped a condo for quick resale, netting a $21,000 profit on a cash investment of exactly nothing. For months he rode around in a new car supplied by a shady local Buick dealer. When the dealer's ties to a congressman who was later indicted for racketeering were exposed, Kerry quickly explained that the non-payment was a mere oversight, and wrote out a check.

In the Senate, his record of his constituent services has been lackluster, and most of his colleagues, despite their public support, are hard-pressed to list an accomplishment. Just last fall, a Boston TV reporter ambushed three congressmen with the question, name something John Kerry has accomplished in Congress. After a few nervous giggles, two could think of nothing, and a third mentioned a baseball field, and then misidentified Kerry as "Sen. Kennedy."

Many of his constituents see him in person only when he is cutting them in line - at an airport, a clam shack or the Registry of Motor Vehicles. One talk-show caller a few weeks back recalled standing behind a police barricade in 2002 as the Rolling Stones played the Orpheum Theater, a short limousine ride from Kerry's Louisburg Square mansion.

The caller, Jay, said he began heckling Kerry and his wife as they attempted to enter the theater. Finally, he said, the senator turned to him and asked him the eternal question.

"Do you know who I am?"

"Yeah," said Jay. "You're a gold-digger."

John Kerry. First he looks at the purse.

Howie Carr, a Boston Herald columnist and syndicated talk-radio host, has been covering John Kerry for 25 years.

9 posted on 04/18/2004 5:22:28 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball This is typical behavior of limousine liberals. They say they are for the regular guy yet they squash the regular guy with their arrogance.

10 posted on 04/18/2004 5:24:31 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: The_Media_never_lie Unfortunately, with liberal RATs, yes.

11 posted on 04/18/2004 5:30:31 AM PDT by hershey [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball "....noticed that our prop rpm was vibrating all over the place. "

I have no trouble believing any of this of Kerry, but one thing I'd like to know is how "prop RPM" vibrates? Is this some kind of variable pitch multi engine high tech sort of thing?

12 posted on 04/18/2004 5:43:44 AM PDT by TalBlack ("Tal, no song means anything without someone else....") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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13 posted on 04/18/2004 5:45:15 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (If indeed you must be candid, be candid beautifully.--Kahlil Gibran) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball This reminds me of a time during the Mondale campaign. My brother in law was a democrat at the time, and he volunteered to chauffeur Senator Mondale around Madison, Wisconsin. After he had finished he told of his experience, and how Mondale was a real jerk. I find this easy to believe of Kerry.

14 posted on 04/18/2004 5:48:27 AM PDT by marktwain [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: The_Media_never_lie "Is this behaviour considered normal in Mass. (re: Kennedy, Frank etc.)?" Most of the people who immigrated to America wanted to work hard, keep what THEY made, and not live a crawling, hat off and upturned begging existence of their old country brethren. But, this was not 100%. Naturally any large number enterprise, like American immigration, would have a fair number of people who were too stupid to understand the necessary qualities of America. They too came, only upon arrival did they realize their error and most didn't move too far from the beach, wharf, pier where they were left with lost luggage while everyone else went on to build their future. These places, still to this day populated with subservient, whining, scully caped drunk porcine facial boned losers, is called Massachusetts, New York, etc. These pathetic populations, being fearful, quickly appointed amongst them those who would most closely replicate the kings and lords they left back in Europe.

15 posted on 04/18/2004 5:51:46 AM PDT by Leisler (Whatever it is you're doing, it's illegal now.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]

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To: TalBlack The needle on the prop RPM meter was vibrating. Indicates a possible fault in the measuring system, or the plan's reaction to having to carry Kerry! ;-)

16 posted on 04/18/2004 5:53:17 AM PDT by SubMareener [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

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To: Pan_Yans Wife Bush/Cheney 2004

17 posted on 04/18/2004 6:20:19 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball This email with its statement has been circulating for months. Does anyone know this pilot or if the story has any truth to it?

18 posted on 04/18/2004 6:23:24 AM PDT by Ranger [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: The_Media_never_lie Is this behaviour considered normal in Mass. (re: Kennedy, Frank etc.)? Yes it is. From 1991 to 1997 I lived within 5 miles of the Kennedy Compound in Hyannisport. The stories of the Kennedys' behavior are legendary.

I heard stories from many people but two sources were particularly good. One was a community college instructor whose parents had long served as "gofers" for the Kennedys.

The other was the manager of a resort hotel about a mile or two from the Compound. The Kennedys used it as their private country club and guest house. By the way, the only member of the Kennedy clan who bought a membership to the pool and weight-room was Arnold Schwarzenegger. The rest just walked in and used the facilities at will. If anyone questioned them, they would just say "Do you know who I am?"

19 posted on 04/18/2004 6:27:37 AM PDT by jackbill [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]

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To: KSCITYBOY My dad used to say that you should never call anyone an a$$hole because an a$$hole provides a very useful and necessary function!

20 posted on 04/18/2004 6:28:17 AM PDT by leprechaun9 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball I saw this on FR weeks ago... I think I have an idea where that email may have originated from.

21 posted on 04/18/2004 6:36:25 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Waiting for Hamas to announce the name of the IDF's next target...) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball If true, Kerry is nothing more than a selfish, spoiled, wimpy, wussy, cad. But when did he ever appear to be otherwise?? The choice for president couldn't be more obvious.

22 posted on 04/18/2004 6:39:21 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (A vote for president Bush IS a vote for principle.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball ...And JohnEffinKerry is ahead in the polls!

23 posted on 04/18/2004 7:00:11 AM PDT by vanmorrison [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: Quilla Mannerless jerk? Well, Mr. Senator sticks his head up in the cockpit and says "This plane WILL take off, I have a press conference in Bangkok in three hours!" (Maybe this is an indication of how he will run the FAA). American service members lives be damned, we had our Senatorial orders. We ran the engines again, and did not have the problem, so we took off and made it back. During the flight, he told everyone how he had taken a Cessna (a small General aviation plane) up with a fighter pilot, and the fighter pilot remarked that Kerry was one of the best pilots he had ever seen. I don't know about other pilots out there, but it's hard to imagine a little,single-engine prop plane pilot being able to show the "right stuff."

This guy is mentaly ill. But what can I say, getting a comic peewee elected has always been popular.

24 posted on 04/18/2004 7:39:39 AM PDT by JudgemAll [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

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To: Leroy S. Mort "His initials are JFK," longtime state Senate President William M. Bulger used to muse on St. Patrick's Day, "Just for Kerry." NOW I know what JFK stands for.

Becki

25 posted on 04/18/2004 8:43:02 AM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball Kerry would make an ideal first President of the Union of Socialist States of America. Sounds like one of the Ministers in the movie Brazil

26 posted on 04/18/2004 9:02:16 AM PDT by chilepepper (RE) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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A USAF Airman's Impression of John Kerry

Posted on 04/18/2004 4:55:43 AM PDT by tomball

Greeting Friends,

I was compelled to forward this along to you as a must read. It's about Senator John Kerry... and how he is a surprisingly good role model for our Air Force. Please read the following and then forward this again to folks you know so that you can do your part and do your civic duty. Have a nice day.

waltjune@tnni.net

Subject: From Air Force Pilot Chris Thomas

I would like to add my two cents about my John Kerry experience. During my career as an Air Force pilot, I spent two years flying a small twin engine prop plane around the Pacific from my base in Okinawa, Japan. On one trip we had to fly Senator Kerry, his congressional aide, and a Navy Captain (Vietnam, A-4 fighter pilot) who was also in Kerry's party to various locations in Vietnam and Cambodia as part of the MIA/POW talks. When I met him, he was wearing a shirt with a picture of his sailboat on it. I told him I had a 27' sailboat in Okinawa. He remarked "Oh I never sail on anything less than 135 feet."

Thanks, Senator, "I feel even better about the meager salary I get paid for flying your mega-wealthy ass around the Pacific."

When we first flew him into Phnom Penh, he went to the back of the airplane and grabbed the pizza that was put aside for the crew and passed it around to his staff. He was never offered any pizza because they were supposed to have lunch with the Cambodian government when we landed. The pizza was the crew's only meal for that day and he ate it. Then when we picked him up in Cambodia, he was an hour late getting to the airport. Because fuel was an issue, we could not start the engines and therefore the air conditioning until he arrived. Phnom Penh at that time was over 100 degrees with 95% humidity and we were basically sitting in a greenhouse behind the cockpit windows. When he finally did arrive, we were wringing out our clothes from the perspiration. He walks out of the air conditioned car, into the airplane and asks us "Could you guys get the air conditioning running, I'm a little warm?"

The other pilot had to physically restrain me from going back there and picking a fight. Then we took him into Noi Bai airfield in Hanoi. After we picked him up the next day (he stayed the night in Vietnam, we stayed in Bangkok) we taxied out, ran up the engines for takeoff, and noticed that our prop rpm was vibrating all over the place. We taxied off to the side to look at it, but there was a good possibility that there was an engine malfunction and the engine may fail if we took off with it.

Well, Mr. Senator sticks his head up in the cockpit and says "This plane WILL take off, I have a press conference in Bangkok in three hours!" (Maybe this is an indication of how he will run the FAA). American service members lives be damned, we had our Senatorial orders. We ran the engines again, and did not have the problem, so we took off and made it back. During the flight, he told everyone how he had taken a Cessna (a small General aviation plane) up with a fighter pilot, and the fighter pilot remarked that Kerry was one of the best pilots he had ever seen. I don't know about other pilots out there, but it's hard to imagine a little,single-engine prop plane pilot being able to show the "right stuff."

After Kerry left the plane, the Navy Captain came up to us, apologized and said basically that "he knows Kerry is a jerk" and that we should be glad we don't have to deal with him every day. __________________________________________________________

Your choice folks. Elections in November. You want a mega- millionaire ego-maniac it's-all-about-me crew-eating-pizza-ite like Kerry or maybe a Green Party candidate like Ralph Nader? Or, God forbid, maybe even re-elect George Bush, a nice God fearing Christian bent on protecting us from terrorist attacks on US soil? Hmmm, let's see? Continued freedom under Bush or bombs in our backyard under Kerry (who will be sailing on his"minimum 135' yacht").

As Fox would say, "we report. You decide."

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1 posted on 04/18/2004 4:55:44 AM PDT by tomball [ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]

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To: tomball John (nouveau riche) Kerry is a mannerless jerk.

2 posted on 04/18/2004 5:02:38 AM PDT by Quilla [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball What an ass*ole!

3 posted on 04/18/2004 5:08:00 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball You mean Kerry has actually been in Vietnam?

4 posted on 04/18/2004 5:08:14 AM PDT by Rebelbase [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball Very revealing document. Is this behaviour considered normal in Mass. (re: Kennedy, Frank etc.)?

5 posted on 04/18/2004 5:15:25 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: Rebelbase Lokks like he got in another short tour of duty. Suppose he put himself in for another medal? After all, he was a little warm? Purple Heart at least!

6 posted on 04/18/2004 5:17:12 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball Have never been able to verify the truth of this letter http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/pizza.asp

7 posted on 04/18/2004 5:20:37 AM PDT by pookie18 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: KSCITYBOY What an ass*ole! don't you mean a "Big Time Clymer"? LOL

8 posted on 04/18/2004 5:21:54 AM PDT by chainsaw (http://www.hanoijohnkerry.org.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball See Snopes which also quotes the following from Dave Barry: In conclusion, I want to extend my sincere best wishes to all of my opponents, Republican and Democrat, and to state that, in the unlikely event I am not elected, I will support whoever is, even if it is Sen. John Kerry, who once came, with his entourage, into a ski- rental shop in Ketchum, Idaho, where I was waiting patiently with my family to rent snowboards, and Sen. Kerry used one of his lackeys to flagrantly barge in line ahead of us and everybody else, as if he had some urgent senatorial need for a snowboard, like there was about to be an emergency meeting, out on the slopes, of the Joint Halfpipe Committee. I say it's time for us, as a nation, to put this unpleasant incident behind us. I know that I, for one, have forgotten all about it. That is how fair and balanced I am.

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THE REAL KERRY By HOWIE CARR

February 5, 2004 -- BOSTON

ONE of the surest ways to get the phones ringing on any Massachusetts talk-radio show is to ask people to call in and tell their John Kerry stories. The phone lines are soon filled, and most of the stories have a common theme: our junior senator pulling rank on one of his constituents, breaking in line, demanding to pay less (or nothing) or ducking out before the bill arrives.

The tales often have one other common thread. Most end with Sen. Kerry inquiring of the lesser mortal: "Do you know who I am?"

And now he's running for president as a populist. His first wife came from a Philadelphia Main Line family worth $300 million. His second wife is a pickle-and-ketchup heiress.

Kerry lives in a mansion on Beacon Hill on which he has borrowed $6 million to finance his campaign. A fire hydrant that prevented him and his wife from parking their SUV in front of their tony digs was removed by the city of Boston at his behest.

The Kerrys ski at a spa the widow Heinz owns in Aspen, and they summer on Nantucket in a sprawling seaside "cottage" on Hurlbert Avenue, which is so well-appointed that at a recent fund-raiser, they imported porta-toilets onto the front lawn so the donors wouldn't use the inside bathrooms. (They later claimed the decision was made on septic, not social, considerations).

It's a wonderful life these days for John Kerry. He sails Nantucket Sound in "the Scaramouche," a 42-foot Hinckley powerboat. Martha Stewart has a similar boat; the no-frills model reportedly starts at $695,000. Sen. Kerry bought it new, for cash.

Every Tuesday night, the local politicians here that Kerry elbowed out of his way on his march to the top watch, fascinated, as he claims victory in more primaries and denounces the special interests, the "millionaires" and "the overprivileged."

"His initials are JFK," longtime state Senate President William M. Bulger used to muse on St. Patrick's Day, "Just for Kerry. He's only Irish every sixth year." And now it turns out that he's not Irish at all.

But in the parochial world of Bay State politics, he was never really seen as Irish, even when he was claiming to be (although now, of course, he says that any references to his alleged Hibernian heritage were mistakenly put into the Congressional Record by an aide who apparently didn't know that on his paternal side he is, in fact, part-Jewish).

Kerry is, in fact, a Brahmin - his mother was a Forbes, from one of Massachusetts' oldest WASP families. The ancestor who wed Ralph Waldo Emerson's daughter was marrying down.

At the risk of engaging in ethnic stereotyping, Yankees have a reputation for, shall we say, frugality. And Kerry tosses around quarters like they were manhole covers. In 1993, for instance, living on a senator's salary of about $100,000, he managed to give a total of $135 to charity.

Yet that same year, he was somehow able to scrape together $8,600 for a brand-new, imported Italian motorcycle, a Ducati Paso 907 IE. He kept it for years, until he decided to run for president, at which time he traded it in for a Harley-Davidson like the one he rode onto "The Tonight Show" set a couple of months ago as Jay Leno applauded his fellow Bay Stater.

Of course, in 1993 he was between his first and second heiresses - a time he now calls "the wandering years," although an equally apt description might be "the freeloading years."

For some of the time, he was, for all practical purposes, homeless. His friends allowed him into a real-estate deal in which he flipped a condo for quick resale, netting a $21,000 profit on a cash investment of exactly nothing. For months he rode around in a new car supplied by a shady local Buick dealer. When the dealer's ties to a congressman who was later indicted for racketeering were exposed, Kerry quickly explained that the non-payment was a mere oversight, and wrote out a check.

In the Senate, his record of his constituent services has been lackluster, and most of his colleagues, despite their public support, are hard-pressed to list an accomplishment. Just last fall, a Boston TV reporter ambushed three congressmen with the question, name something John Kerry has accomplished in Congress. After a few nervous giggles, two could think of nothing, and a third mentioned a baseball field, and then misidentified Kerry as "Sen. Kennedy."

Many of his constituents see him in person only when he is cutting them in line - at an airport, a clam shack or the Registry of Motor Vehicles. One talk-show caller a few weeks back recalled standing behind a police barricade in 2002 as the Rolling Stones played the Orpheum Theater, a short limousine ride from Kerry's Louisburg Square mansion.

The caller, Jay, said he began heckling Kerry and his wife as they attempted to enter the theater. Finally, he said, the senator turned to him and asked him the eternal question.

"Do you know who I am?"

"Yeah," said Jay. "You're a gold-digger."

John Kerry. First he looks at the purse.

Howie Carr, a Boston Herald columnist and syndicated talk-radio host, has been covering John Kerry for 25 years.

9 posted on 04/18/2004 5:22:28 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball This is typical behavior of limousine liberals. They say they are for the regular guy yet they squash the regular guy with their arrogance.

10 posted on 04/18/2004 5:24:31 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: The_Media_never_lie Unfortunately, with liberal RATs, yes.

11 posted on 04/18/2004 5:30:31 AM PDT by hershey [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball "....noticed that our prop rpm was vibrating all over the place. "

I have no trouble believing any of this of Kerry, but one thing I'd like to know is how "prop RPM" vibrates? Is this some kind of variable pitch multi engine high tech sort of thing?

12 posted on 04/18/2004 5:43:44 AM PDT by TalBlack ("Tal, no song means anything without someone else....") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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13 posted on 04/18/2004 5:45:15 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (If indeed you must be candid, be candid beautifully.--Kahlil Gibran) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball This reminds me of a time during the Mondale campaign. My brother in law was a democrat at the time, and he volunteered to chauffeur Senator Mondale around Madison, Wisconsin. After he had finished he told of his experience, and how Mondale was a real jerk. I find this easy to believe of Kerry.

14 posted on 04/18/2004 5:48:27 AM PDT by marktwain [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: The_Media_never_lie "Is this behaviour considered normal in Mass. (re: Kennedy, Frank etc.)?" Most of the people who immigrated to America wanted to work hard, keep what THEY made, and not live a crawling, hat off and upturned begging existence of their old country brethren. But, this was not 100%. Naturally any large number enterprise, like American immigration, would have a fair number of people who were too stupid to understand the necessary qualities of America. They too came, only upon arrival did they realize their error and most didn't move too far from the beach, wharf, pier where they were left with lost luggage while everyone else went on to build their future. These places, still to this day populated with subservient, whining, scully caped drunk porcine facial boned losers, is called Massachusetts, New York, etc. These pathetic populations, being fearful, quickly appointed amongst them those who would most closely replicate the kings and lords they left back in Europe.

15 posted on 04/18/2004 5:51:46 AM PDT by Leisler (Whatever it is you're doing, it's illegal now.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]

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To: TalBlack The needle on the prop RPM meter was vibrating. Indicates a possible fault in the measuring system, or the plan's reaction to having to carry Kerry! ;-)

16 posted on 04/18/2004 5:53:17 AM PDT by SubMareener [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

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17 posted on 04/18/2004 6:20:19 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball This email with its statement has been circulating for months. Does anyone know this pilot or if the story has any truth to it?

18 posted on 04/18/2004 6:23:24 AM PDT by Ranger [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: The_Media_never_lie Is this behaviour considered normal in Mass. (re: Kennedy, Frank etc.)? Yes it is. From 1991 to 1997 I lived within 5 miles of the Kennedy Compound in Hyannisport. The stories of the Kennedys' behavior are legendary.

I heard stories from many people but two sources were particularly good. One was a community college instructor whose parents had long served as "gofers" for the Kennedys.

The other was the manager of a resort hotel about a mile or two from the Compound. The Kennedys used it as their private country club and guest house. By the way, the only member of the Kennedy clan who bought a membership to the pool and weight-room was Arnold Schwarzenegger. The rest just walked in and used the facilities at will. If anyone questioned them, they would just say "Do you know who I am?"

19 posted on 04/18/2004 6:27:37 AM PDT by jackbill [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]

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To: KSCITYBOY My dad used to say that you should never call anyone an a$$hole because an a$$hole provides a very useful and necessary function!

20 posted on 04/18/2004 6:28:17 AM PDT by leprechaun9 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball I saw this on FR weeks ago... I think I have an idea where that email may have originated from.

21 posted on 04/18/2004 6:36:25 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Waiting for Hamas to announce the name of the IDF's next target...) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball If true, Kerry is nothing more than a selfish, spoiled, wimpy, wussy, cad. But when did he ever appear to be otherwise?? The choice for president couldn't be more obvious.

22 posted on 04/18/2004 6:39:21 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (A vote for president Bush IS a vote for principle.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball ...And JohnEffinKerry is ahead in the polls!

23 posted on 04/18/2004 7:00:11 AM PDT by vanmorrison [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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To: Quilla Mannerless jerk? Well, Mr. Senator sticks his head up in the cockpit and says "This plane WILL take off, I have a press conference in Bangkok in three hours!" (Maybe this is an indication of how he will run the FAA). American service members lives be damned, we had our Senatorial orders. We ran the engines again, and did not have the problem, so we took off and made it back. During the flight, he told everyone how he had taken a Cessna (a small General aviation plane) up with a fighter pilot, and the fighter pilot remarked that Kerry was one of the best pilots he had ever seen. I don't know about other pilots out there, but it's hard to imagine a little,single-engine prop plane pilot being able to show the "right stuff."

This guy is mentaly ill. But what can I say, getting a comic peewee elected has always been popular.

24 posted on 04/18/2004 7:39:39 AM PDT by JudgemAll [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]

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To: Leroy S. Mort "His initials are JFK," longtime state Senate President William M. Bulger used to muse on St. Patrick's Day, "Just for Kerry." NOW I know what JFK stands for.

Becki

25 posted on 04/18/2004 8:43:02 AM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies ]

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To: tomball Kerry would make an ideal first President of the Union of Socialist States of America. Sounds like one of the Ministers in the movie Brazil

26 posted on 04/18/2004 9:02:16 AM PDT by chilepepper (RE) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

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Interesting site must read

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We Never Forget Those were left behind

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We will never forget until they rest in peace

-- (Bo_Qua_Đi_Tám@Ba_Sạo.com), November 20, 2004.


FOR THE VETERANS DAY 1998

] In August, 1998, Viet Quoc Home Page received the following messages from an American veteran of the Vietnam War, whose name not revealed, for his convenience. 1. ON VIETNAM

Subject: enjoy your site Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:48:30 -0500 From: "C.E." To: I recently returned to Vietnam. I was a Marine rifleman, served in Vietnam in 67-68(20 months). I made new friends there during my stay as a tourist last year. Sadly, I found that most people there are unable to improve their quality of life. Although the communists are in control, I believe that the people are only waiting for the collapse of the party as happened in the Soviet Union. I left there with the feeling that the war is long from over. Perhaps the shooting has stopped but I witnessed a great deal of defiance. I hope that someday my friends there will have a decent life. 2. ON THE NORTH VIETNAMESE MIA's

Subject: enjoy your site Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:00:13 -0500 From: "C.E." To: Last year on a return trip to Vietnam, I pointed out to the communists where we buried approx. 250 North Vietnamese soldiers near Con Thien. They seemed to not care, as if they were expendable . I also asked where the ARVN graves were and they told me that there were not any. ] We also read in Lao Dong (Labor) magazine, issue July 29, 1998, a Hanoi state-run publication, a report confirming the truth of the North Vietnamese MIAs affairs: "Obscurities in Gia Lai Military Cemetery."

From Hanoi, Nguyen Xuan Huong had to spend several days on train and bus to reach Pleiku to visit the grave of his younger brother, who sacrificed himself for the "anti-American, national salvation war." At the Gia Lai provincial war dead cemetery, he quickly located the grave of his beloved brother in lot 2, row 7, site 13, "where lies the war hero Nguyen Van Dinh born 1953 at Hoang An, Dien Hoa, Ha Bac (province), member of combat unit C2, C7, E66 (Companies 2 and 7, 66th regiment), killed in action on August 19, 1973."

According to Lao Dong, while Huong was sitting and sobbing beside his brother's grave, the friend who was travelling along with him exclaimed, "How come there is another grave over here of Nguyen Van Dinh? Everything on the headstone is just the same." Walking over, Huong was greatly surprised to see a grave of the same identification at lot 2,. row 12, site 25...

Then not only the "war dead hero Dinh," day by day people found out that in this cemetery there are many such "war dead heroes," each has his name at two graves.

For example, "war dead hero Ngo Xuan Son born 1945 at An Son, Nam Sach, Hai Hung (province), Gia Lai-Kontum provincial combat unit K7, killed in August 1966, has the same inscription on both graves, one in lot 1, row 2, site 18 and the other in the same lot, row 12, site 11."

"War dead hero" Le Van Nui born 1946 at Hai Nhan, Tinh Gia, Thanh Hoa (province), Gia Lai-Kontum provincial combat unit C2, killed on July 14, 1970," lies in both grave 23, row 14, lot 1 and grave 6, row 1, lot 4.

Lao Dong also reports that there are many incomprehensible cases. One of which was of "war dead hero Dinh Minh Truyen born 1949 at Hoa Tuyen, Minh Hoa, Quang Binh (province), Gia Lai-Kontum provincial combat unit C2, killed in March 1958(?). Is it possible that he died at 9 years old?"

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In the last few years in Hanoi and Washington D.C., people have been talking about the preposterous story about the "300,000 North Vietnamese MIA's" during the Vietnam War. According to our article "Hanoi's 300,000 MIAs" in this home page, most of the 1.1 million North Vietnamese soldiers killed in South Vietnam are technically MIA's, not only 300,000. Almost all of them were killed without metal ID tags. A very small number might have had small notebooks or identification papers that must have decomposed after four or five rainy seasons buried without coffins in mass graves.

On November 4, 1998 in Hanoi, US Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Prisoners of War and Missing Personnel Affairs Robert Jones said that information provided by the United States to Hanoi authorities has also allowed them to recover the remains of 850 (North) Vietnamese personnel listed as missing.

Some American veterans had done the same thing, but neither Mr. Jones nor those veterans gave more details concerning the identification issue. If they are just common graves where American and South Vietnamese soldiers buried thei dead enemies, such information could be provided by thousands of Vietnamese.

It is evident that Hanoi's claim of its 300,000 MIAs is just for propaganda purpose to assuage the grief of the relatives of its war dead. And probably, Washington takes the claim for granted for similar purpose. So Hanoi doesn't really care about its million MIAs, let alone the 850 by information fromAmerican authorities.

Any aid from everyone to better the Vietnamese people's life even our former enemy soldiers should be greatly welcomed, but it should be fair and not become a life support instrument to maintain the existence of the Hanoi regime and its propaganda.

We have a suggestion to American veterans who will visit Vietnam. If you will be traveling on Highway 1 from Saigon to Bien Hoa, please take at least a quick look at the South Vietnamese National Cemetery and pray silently if you dare not pray aloud for the souls of your once fighting-fellow Vietnamese who lie there.

Let's pray for the American and Vietnamese soldiers who sacrificed themselves for the freedom of Vietnam!

May the ARVN dead soldiers rest undisturbed by foes although forgotten by friends!

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-- (Bo_Qua_Đi_Tám@Ba_Sạo.com), November 20, 2004.


Survivors of old Vietnam remember a past fast forgotten ON THE SCENE CNN Senior Correspondent Richard Blystone reported from Vietnam and Cambodia between 1971 and 1975. Here he reports on a side of the new Vietnam that U.S. President Bill Clinton didn't see. The South Vietnamese Army cemetery at Bien Hoa, where 20,000 are buried November 20, 2000 Web posted at: 12:11 a.m. HKT (1611 GMT)

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BIEN HOA, Vietnam (CNN) -- The weeping heavens of the monsoon turn the paths between headstones into brown rivers. That is the only sign of mourning at this Vietnamese graveyard. The untended graves nearly obscured by long grass; black moss encroaching on the names of the dead.

This was the cemetery of the army of South Vietnam.

From this gentle slope you can see the industrial zones that were the big bases of Bien Hoa and Long Binh, where the U.S. military planted small American cities, complete with bowling alleys, hamburger bars, movie theaters.

Here, America's client erected something very different. At the gate, a touching statue: a weary soldier, seated, rifle across his knees, helmet in his hands.

That's gone.

Behind it an honored resting place for 20,000 soldiers, a small proportion of the total of South Vietnam's dead.

Part of that has been razed for a brick kiln and a factory, we're told, and the families of the dead were told to remove them or forget them.

Some had volunteered to fight; many more had no choice. Some believed in their anti-communist cause; others really didn't care. Some fought bravely; others just tried to stay alive. But it came to the same thing in the end.

No monuments for them, no parades, no multimillion-dollar searches for their remains.

While the new Vietnam celebrates the visit of President Clinton, here the past has to grieve for itself. And the survivors must fend for themselves.

Of tutors and taxis In Ho Chi Minh City, still widely called Saigon, the monsoon showers a livelihood on Tran Dinh Thanh, standing in the downpour on his crude peg leg.

He sells cheap plastic raincoats in vibrant pink, yellow, green, blue, to the affluent who buzz by on motorbikes -- one of the few jobs open to veterans of the vanquished "puppet" regime.

A land mine took his leg, he says. The new regime does nothing for him, but neither did the old one.

Dong Van Luu used to teach U.S. pilots Vietnamese phrases to use if they were shot down. No job for him after the war. For 15 years, he got along tutoring young Vietnamese in English.

Then economic liberalization took hold, and today he's the assistant manager of a showroom selling cars that he'll never be able to afford.

Had it all turned out differently, Le Van Thinh's eight years with the U.S. Marines at Danang might have put him on the road to a good career. After the war, like others tainted by their contact with the U.S., he spent 10 years laboring in "new economic zone."

Today he waits with his pedal-powered taxi outside a hotel, one of many veterans whose smattering of pidgin English helps get jobs wheeling tourists around this booming town.

In a lucky 14-hour day, his pumping legs might earn him around $7. On a bad day...

"No lucky," he says, "no money."

Thinh is 52 but looks 10 years older. Two-thirds of his countrymen are under 30. His generation is part of a past that is fast being forgotten.

Hello, old friend But many Southerners still feel left out of today's Vietnam. Even veterans of the communist Viet Cong complain privately that the Northerners, with their sterner, more regimented ways, have pushed them aside.

And many Saigonese socially shun what they disdainfully pronounce "bac ky," Northerners, who've moved south because here is the core of Vietnam's economic reactor.

Reconciliation with America is not the only reconciliation that remains unfinished here.

And as the Ho City crowds cheer Bill Clinton, you wonder if you're sensing a feeling of not just "welcome," but "welcome back."



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I wonder exactly how much of that dense text you actually read and comprehend. Gosh...

-- Jubinell (Jube@Jube.Jube), November 20, 2004.

Jube ngu như ḅ, người post các bài trên họ đă đọc trước khi post ở đa6y có jbe ko comprehend hay do not understand. Họ ko hiểu làm sao họ đi làm, ở sở họ có người đánh vi tính cho họ họ chị thảo bài dictate và final review trước khi gưi bài thuyết tŕnh đi in hay thảo hoàn toàn bài bản cho hội thảo. Ba cái vụ ở đây nhỏ lặt vặt ăn nhằn ǵ. Làm research các bài vở lư thuyết phải nhớ như 1 quyển Tự Điển sống để check mất chú nhỏ thiê'u kinh nghiệm, check data chỨ đâu có chuyện chỉ tay năm ngón như các khƯa ở phủ đầu heo đâu. Bill Gates làm 24 trên 24 khin cần, staff cũng làm luôn bởi vậy họ có Bonus cap cuối năm với stock share holders

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Jube ngu như ḅ, người post các bài trên họ đă đọc trước khi post ở đa6y có jbe ko comprehend hay do not understand. Họ ko hiểu làm sao họ đi làm, ở sở họ có người đánh vi tính cho họ họ chị thảo bài dictate và final review trước khi gưi bài thuyết tŕnh đi in hay thảo hoàn toàn bài bản cho hội thảo. Ba cái vụ ở đây nhỏ lặt vặt ăn nhằn ǵ. Làm research các bài vở lư thuyết phải nhớ như 1 quyển Tự Điển sống để check mất chú nhỏ thiê'u kinh nghiệm, check data chỨ đâu có chuyện chỉ tay năm ngón như các khƯa ở phủ đầu heo đâu. Bill Gates làm 24 trên 24 khi cần, staff cũng làm luôn bởi vậy họ có Bonus cap cuối năm với stock share holders

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Jube ngu như ḅ, người post các bài trên họ đă đọc trước khi post ở đa6y có jbe ko comprehend hay do not understand. Họ ko hiểu làm sao họ đi làm, ở sở họ có người đánh vi tính cho họ họ chị thảo bài dictate và final review trước khi gưi bài thuyết tŕnh đi in hay thảo hoàn toàn bài bản cho hội thảo. Ba cái vụ ở đây nhỏ lặt vặt ăn nhằn ǵ. Làm research các bài vở lư thuyết phải nhớ như 1 quyển Tự Điển sống để check mấy chú nhỏ thiê'u kinh nghiệm, check data chỨ đâu có chuyện chỉ tay năm ngón như các khƯa ở phủ đầu heo đâu. Bill Gates làm 24 trên 24 khi cần, staff cũng làm luôn bởi vậy họ có Bonus cao cuối năm với stock share holders

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