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AKOBADAGETH seems to hold you in such high esteem, and he claims that you will "embarass" me. I find that hard (impossible) to believe. If you are indeed the intelligent and well-educated man I think you are, then I am sure that our interactions will evolve to one of mutual respect. I can agree to disagree on issues, but to then turn around and call you a hillbilly inbred moron (like AKOBADAGETH) would be obviously inaccurate.

AKOBADAGETH lacks the education and writing skills he needs in order to articulate his racist views with readers. You obviously share some of those views with him, but I am curious to see how you would go about supporting them. You do realize that the evidence AGAINST race based intelligence theories is considerable, dont you? GOOD.

This should be interesting....

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 13, 2004

Answers

I've got an idea for this thread.

KILL IT BEFORE IT MULTIPLIES!

Are the mods here powerless? Somehow you got rid of that "Patriot" idiot, why can't you get rid of Ack? Kobe can stay. I like Kobe. His brain works. However, this forum goes under the name "ANARCHY 2". When it goes by the title "RACE DISCUSSIONS", then I'll shut up. Until then, mods...are you all asleep up there?

-- Pasta (noodle@pasta.com), November 14, 2004.


Youre right. Im just adding fuel to the flame by nciting responses on this subject. AKO knows that it hits a nerve because I'm biracial, but hitting the nerve simply causes the proper (and ass scalding) reflexes. I like you too, Pasta.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 14, 2004.

To Kobe SBM: Greetings from the Oracle. Many have come to the foot of the Oracle to learn and discuss their life’s problems. The Oracle has never turned His back on anyone who approaches with the humility and respect as you have shown. The Oracle is MOST interested in engaging in an intellectual debate with one of the esteemed members of KobeHQ.

You have the solemn promise of the Oracle that He will conduct Himself with the highest degree of respect toward you when dealing with your rational (white) half. However, keep in mind that if you allow your, how shall we say, dark side to emerge and show its nappy head, you will find the Oracle to be not as forgiving and tolerant as AKOBADAGETH has been with you.

That said, perhaps a few ground rules can be agreed upon before the outset. Both parties will be free to cut and paste portions of prior postings and provide informative facts gleaned from the Internet. Insults should be freely given and graciously received. By doing this we can both entertain and enlighten any gentle reader who happens to wander in. Any disputed scientific fact should be rebutted with scientific fact. Opinions are precisely that, opinions. The Oracle is not interested in Emotions. He is more interested in Facts, Logic, and Deductive Reasoning. We shall try our very best to limit the number of items or questions in our postings. This should eliminate the risk of having some issues left unresolved or that someone is “dodging an issue”. If you agree to these simple terms, we can proceed. As it was you who had invited the Oracle, perhaps it would be proper for you to begin.

-- Oracle (sitdown@backofthebus.com), November 15, 2004.


see oracle and alko get owned here:

http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00CVvo

enjoy

-- ? (?@?.?), November 15, 2004.


AKO is a fucking LIAR!!! Lots of people have handed these two fornicators of diseased sheep their sorry asses back to them, and AKO STILL insists that he won every argument when in reality he got ass raped yet again! The Whoreacle is also a racist whack job with no life either!

AKO DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT!!!!

-- (Ain't @ sayin'.com), November 16, 2004.



actually you did get ur ass handed to you. he said hes never posted here as another name- and you got beat pretty bad. also u and the oracle always have to have the last word...the oracle just gave up and it looks like u did too

-- ? (?@?.?), November 16, 2004.

I have decided against engaging you in any sort of intelligent debate. Your credibility was destroyed when you showed your support for the utterly preposterous notions of one "AKOBADAGETH". To enter into a discussion with you would be pointless.

Perhaps if I had met you under different circumstances, I might have gone a few with you, however that is not the case. From what I can gather, you and AKOFUCK are much the same, only you are able to articulate your ignorance with a little more style. The double entendre, the feigned objectivity, and the silly "oracle" role do little to enhance your approach. You share AKO's self-important view of himself and his ideaology, yet are obviously well-educated and intelligent.

If you support white PRIDE, I do not object to that. There are other racial pride groups such as Brown Pride, Asian Pride, Black Pride, etc. Such affiliations usually attract social degenerates like AKO, Louis Farrakahn, and David Duke. The need to belong to such organizations is a sign of an inferiority complex. The members somehow feel that belonging to a pride group will compensate for the lack of personal self-confidence and direction. It is the idea of white SUPREMACY which I stand against, as I stand against all racial supremacy groups.

After reading some of my posts here and elsewhere, you will find it difficult to convince anyone reading this thread that Im just some "dumb nigger". If AKO can resist the urge to interject one of his most tiresome "UNDISPUTABLE FCATZS", I may respond to a comment from you. I do not believe that we can debate anything unless it has absolutely NOTHING to do with racial supremacy or alleged race/intelligence theories.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 17, 2004.


SHUT THE FUCK UP. Just SHUT THE FUCK UP, loser. The "Oracle" must be beating His meat somewhere. He obviously has no wish to have his ass scalded as I have done yours. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY to defend any race-based argument which tries to establish "superior" and "inferior". You are one of the stupidest, most illiterate, most consistently pathetic people I have ever come accross. I actually feel sorry for you. Why dont you DO something about it? I think you's rather continue printing such pearls of wisdom as"

"NIGERS QUIT STEALING ARE AIR!"

Just face it, AKO. No matter what you find regardiong the alleged inferiority of "niggers", you will find that most "niggers" are FAR more intelligent than you are. Forget about trying to ride the coattails of the ACTUAL intelligent whites into the future. They dont want you either.

-- KOBE SBM (KOBESBM@KOBEHQ.COM), November 17, 2004.


AKOFAGGOTSHIT, you're a true retard. Shut up before you get ass raped again.

-- (AKO likes to get @ss raped.com), November 18, 2004.

To Kobe SBM: Greetings from the Oracle. The Oracle could not help but notice that your position regarding a spirited debate between ourselves has, how shall we say, flip-flopped within the span of only four days. Your arrogant dark side, which is your immediate knee jerk reactionary side, wished to engage in mental combat, but your rational white side (which now appears to be the more dominate of the two) made you come to your senses.

The choice to converse, or not to converse is always left in the hands of the gentle readers of this forum. One can only imagine the multitude that visit here, hang upon My every word, nod their heads in agreement and never offer their commentary. The Oracle cannot force anyone to post their views, nor can He force anyone to believe a certain way. All the Oracle can do is to offer His correct and reasonable message. He leaves it up to the reader to either accept or reject.

The Oracle cares not whether you, or any reader, choose to discuss matters or not. Again, He cannot force you to type, He can only motivate you. My only concern is to get the message out to the handful of astute readers on this board, and have them decide whether or not the message and the conclusions drawn make logical sense. Everyone is free to believe what he or she wants to. All the Oracle has ever asked of someone is that they take the time to challenge their current mind set with what the Oracle is offering. Again, He cannot force you to challenge yourself, He can only motivate you.

The Oracle can fully understand the reasoning why certain people do not wish to engage in mental gymnastics. First, most now reading this message are incapable of doing so. And second, others cling to the myth of Negro equality because they wish to be viewed as tolerant and enlightened by others. How blind they are. In the name of political correctness, they reject Truth and Reality.

What is the Truth? The Truth is that everyone has been TOLD that the Negro is the white man’s equal, but they were never given any reasons WHY. Many times the Oracle has asked for the evidence that was shown to them that led them to believe what they do. Every believer of this myth has returned empty handed. There simply are NO facts that point to Negro equality. Yet some people still believe.

What is the Reality? In the absence of facts, these individuals still adhere to this philosophy, the Oracle can only ask why? If not based on Fact, these individuals MUST base their beliefs on Emotion alone. They think to themselves, “Although I it cannot be proven, it does make me feel good inside to think the Negro was falsely elevated to my level”.

The Oracle asks this simple question to one and all: If Negro equality cannot be proven, why do you maintain that philosophy? Are you truly being honest with yourself by denying Reality for your personal pleasure? The Oracle correctly believes one should have the courage to face and accept Reality. It does nobody any good to believe in a baseless myth. When you deny Reality, you deny fulfillment as a person. Truer words have never been spoken.

Most certainly there have been examples cited on these boards where INDIVIDUAL Negroes have beaten the odds and performed something a white man had not. Unfortunately, that does not prove racial equality. When you cite these individual achievements you only confirm what is already known in that individuals are unequal to each other. One of the most important points to remember is that the Negro was elevated to the white man’s level as a group, not as individuals. No Negro was left behind in regards to equality. If ANY individuals are deemed by you to be unequal, the Oracle must ask, by what stretch of the imagination do you somehow arrive at the conclusion the races are magically equal when the races are comprised of individuals who are unequal?

To close, if the Oracle could be granted one wish, it would be that all of this nonsense talk of Negro equality would cease. If you cannot disclose the evidence to back up your beliefs, please do not flame Me or My surrogates and tell us we are wrong. The burden is yours to prove yourselves right. You see, your beliefs are built upon a foundation of sand. You cannot adequately express your own point of view. For that the Oracle feels sorrow for you.



-- Oracle (sitdown@backofthebus.com), November 18, 2004.



Again, the Oracle fails to convince.

There is no such thing as a racial gene or set of race genes any more than there is such a thing as an intelligence gene or set of intelligence genes. This does not mean, of course, that a person's genetic makeup is not a significant factor in individual intelligence in particular areas or in physical features associated with different races, such as skin color, breadth of nose, shape of eyes, etc. It should be obvious, however, by the tremendous variation in intelligences among individuals of any race, that environment is a much more significant determinant of racial features than it is of intelligence. That said, the burden proof of your argument that the Negro is inferior to the caucasian is yours. Humans are all of the same race, and of the same species....hence the growing group of "racially mixed" groups such as the one I belong to. AKOBADAGETH is the source of much amusement given that he is obviously not very intelligent and is glaringly in need of a proper education. You, on the other hand, seem reasonably intelligent and obviously are an educated man. Unfortunately, your education is incomplete. I would be happy to assist you in your studies from this point forward, but you will have to promise to do your homework. There will be no extra credit available, and please leave the apple at home.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 18, 2004.


As I said, there is no intelligence gene. If there WAS one, you are obviously lacking it. Here is an excerp from that same article you linked to:

"The problems with the study was that the differing allele could only account for a 2% variance in IQ, or about 4 points. It is also possible that the gene used, IGF2R, may not be a functional gene on the chromosome. Another gene on that chromosome could actually be responsible for the variation. Since only a portion of the chromosome has been mapped, to verify that IGF2R is the right gene, the entire chromosome needs to be mapped."

More interesting would be a study regarding the anomalies between the studies you point to which "prove" white superiority. How is it that an AKOBADAGETH can be created from 100% caucasian genes? You are proof positive that not all whites are created equal. Your counterparts make you look retarded.

GAME OVER. Continue?

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 18, 2004.


Why are you posting messages to me? This thread is supposed to be reserved for intellectuals (um, that doesnt mean you). My IQ score is 153 (I have told you this before). The fact that your list excludes blacks is inconsequential. Until only recently (relatively speaking), nobody ever measured the intelligence of blacks. I dont want to know what your IQ is, because I dont want to embarass you with the scores of animals who scored higher than you did.

I copied and pasted an exact quote from YOUR source, and you said this:

"THE FACT IS YOU WERE WRONG YET ONCE AGAIN. THERE ARE INTELLIGENT GENES."

***chuckle***

Try reading this source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence

"Race as it is commonly used refers to a classification of human beings based on a groups physical characteristics. Genetically speaking this means grouping individuals based the percentage of a particular set of traits which is common to a certain group. While all members of a certain race will not possess all traits common to their racial grouping they will possess most traits common to their group. These traits however are not exclusive to a particular race but do occur in higher percentages in a that racial grouping."

BOTTOM LINE:

Why do you persist in challenging your intellectual superiors? We have nothing in common intellectually, socio-economically, or morally. You do not possess the skills (both written and cognitive) to engage me OR the Oracle in any sort of exchange of thoughts. Your comments might be better appreciated on another venue....say www.goatfucker.com, or www.turnipfarmer.com.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 18, 2004.


To Kobe SBM: Greetings from the Oracle. Your quote: “This does not mean, of course, that a person's genetic makeup is not a significant factor in individual intelligence in particular areas or in physical features associated with different races, such as skin color, breadth of nose, shape of eyes, etc.”

The Oracle’s response: Here you clearly use the term “different races”. That is the correct mode of thinking. By your own admission, the races ARE different from each other. You went so far as to make note of a few physical characteristics that are different between the races. The Oracle is not quite clear on how you can categorically state that genetics can play an important role in the physical characteristics of the races yet diminish the impact of genetics in regards to intelligence. If genetics can account for outside physical differences, are you prepared to assure the gentle readers that these differences are “only skin deep” and do not affect internal organs such as the brain? Please set our minds at ease and supply the evidence that supports your claim the Negro brain is no different than a white brain. Remember, if only the slightest of differences exist, the two entities in question cannot be equal.

You conveniently trot out the disclaimer concerning environment. Perhaps in our correspondence we will be able to delve into this matter. Remember, if the environment affected the shape a Negro’s nose, perhaps you will agree that it is not out of the realm of possibility that environment could affect his brain as well.

Your quote: “That said, the burden proof of your argument that the Negro is inferior to the caucasian is yours.” As usual, you are incorrect. You see it has only been in the last half century or so that the Negro has been awarded equal status with the white. In fact, throughout the History of Man, the Negro was viewed as, how shall we say, not quite up to par with the white. To this day no poster has offered an adequate explanation of how one day the Negro, as a race, can be seen as undeserving and the next day he is considered My peer.

What caused this sea change of public opinion? What new facts came to light and were presented to the world that erased thousands of years of just and proper treatment? You most certainly are aware of the disappointing track record the Negro had. The Reality is there were no new facts that warranted the elevation of the Negro to the white man. The Negro was elevated by Manmade Mandate and not by Natural Law. What is also important to remember here is that it was the white man who brought the Negro up to his level, not the other way around. To date the Oracle has not learned one fact that would lead Him to believe the Negro was actually worthy of having equality bestowed upon him.

As far as the Oracle bearing gifts of fruit, He was thinking more along the line of bringing watermelon.

-- Oracle (sitdown@backofthebus.com), November 18, 2004.


To Kobe SBM: Greetings from the Oracle. The Oracle would like to address this message to the Black Kobe half:

Such a despicable display of groveling as the Oracle has ever seen. Show some of that Black Pride you are supposed to posses.

-- Oracle (sitdown@backofthebus.com), November 18, 2004.



" In fact, throughout the History of Man, the Negro was viewed as, how shall we say, not quite up to par with the white. To this day no poster has offered an adequate explanation of how one day the Negro, as a race, can be seen as undeserving and the next day he is considered My peer."

Let me offer an adequate explanation: Caucasians evolved. That is why there are no state supported racist nations left on Earth. The reality is that no one human is "superior" to another. The "History of Man" begins with blacks, not whites. Only the unique distortion of perception of certain Caucasians created the white-only perceived self importance. From your perspective, the Asians would most certainly be placed above Caucasians as the Supreme Race (if there were such a thing). Do you disagree?

I challenge you, Mr Oracle, to produce CREDIBLE and verifiable empirical evidence for genetic superiority. If you want to discuss the probability that the "White Race" will no longer exist in 2500 years, you will come to a most grave conclusion. The world is turning brown. The traits which define the perceived "White Race" will no longer exist, and the rest of humanity can move on to a more enlightened phase.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 18, 2004.


The fact that you keep on posting this line of undiluted bullshit is proof that you are an inferior lifeform AKOFAGGOT. And your all caps thing is as moronic as you are. Go back to kindergarten and get a real education, and lose the hate. It's killing what little brain cells you have left.

-- (AKO'S @ Brainless Jer.com), November 20, 2004.

Your precious and much touted "Oracle" is nowhere to be found, AKO. I thought you said he was going to "embarass me". Im still waiting.

"WHY IS IT THAT OF THE THREE REAL RACES ,THE NEGROID (BLACKS),THE MONGOLOIDS (ORIENTALS) AND THE CAUCASOIDS (WHITE),THAT YOU CAN STILL FIND TO THIS DAY TRIBES OF NEGROIDS IN AFRICA STILL LIVING LIKE PRIMITIVE ANIMALS SOME OF WHICH HAVE NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH THE MODERN WORLD."

Why is it that of the "Three real races", no trace of ancient high civilization can be found? On every continent (except North America and Northern Europe), evidence of advanced civilization can be found, and they belonged to the blacks, the Asians, and the "brown" races known as the Indians of South America. Not the whites. The only example I can think of is Stonehenge, which if compared to Aghor Wat in Asia, or the black culture of Egypt, or the Aztec ruins, seems downright primitive. The blacks (Ethiopians, specifically) were building pyramids when the Caucasians were still emerging from the Stone Age.

Whites (the Catholic Church), set out to destroy the ancient ruins all over the world, and destroy written historical records wherever possible. Fortunately for the blacks, much of their writing is integrated into the walls of the temples and monuments and cannot be easily destroyed or altered without exposing the revisionists. I am still laughing at your statement about Queen Nefertiti being a white woman!

I am not interested in hearing anything you have to say, because you are a moron. WHERE IS THE "ORACLE"???? At least he can write and spell. Your three fingers must hurt by now.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 20, 2004.


OH YEA DONT WORRY ABOUT THE ORACLE HE DOES THINGS ON HIS OWN TIME.

Jesus, what, do you have a crush on him or something? It's oracle this, oracle that. You're acting like your in love with the guy, chuck. I wonder...

-- U msut Feers Me (Dubyalovesblow00@hotmail.com), November 20, 2004.


Hey Charles, why are there three men and two women living with you? Are you a tweaker, AKO...um...Charles?

Blow your theories out of your fist-widened ass, you pathetic imbecile.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 21, 2004.


Nobody who declares themselves the winner of a debate, during the debate, has ever won a debate.

-- Dick Tator (inneedofliberty@yahoo.com), November 21, 2004.

Pure BULL AKOFAGGOT!!! You're an idiot with delusions of grandeur and very little to no intelligence about you. You're no winner, just a LOSER who can't take defeat well. You can't even debate, so SHUT UP ALREADY YOU MORON!!!

-- (Ako's @ Fucktard.com), November 21, 2004.

Checked it out. Pure bullshit as always from a bigoted little retard like AKOFUCTARD.

-- (AKO's mom is doing@360's in her grave.com), November 22, 2004.

BWAHAHAHA. He never listens to the truth. He would rather believe that whites started Egypt from East Central Africa, and the "niggers" destroyed it. Actually, it was the other way around. The white invaders from Greece destroyed Egypt.

ABOUT NEFERTITI:

The bust depicted at StormFront is probably a fake, produced by the same individual who produced other confirmed fakes (for notoriety). Here is a link and an excerpt:

http://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/nefertiti.html

"A German excavator by the name of Ludwig Borchardt 'discovered' the painted limestone bust in 1912. (The same year Charles Dawson 'discovered' the fake - British missing link - the Piltdown man. This hoax lasted 40 years.) The circumstances of its export to the Berlin museum were the source of controversy at the time. (Some suggested that Borchardt did a little of the painting himself.) It did not go on exhibit until 1924! One is immediately reminded of the fake Egyptian figure of Tetisheri, Queen mother of the 17th and 18th dynasties, which also did not look Egyptian. It too, looked like a white woman. The figure was part of an exhibit held by the British museum in 1990. The exhibit was titled "Fake? The Art Of Deception." The Testisheri hoax lasted 100 years."

White Nefertiti....BWAHAHAHAHA

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), November 22, 2004.


That would be AKO getting ass raped yet again and again. Kobe keeps handing AKOFUCKADUCK his sorry ass back to hin and AKO just can't seem to get it through his thick skull that Kobe SBM has beaten him ten trillion ways from Sunday.

-- (AKO's STILL @ his fantasy world.com), November 24, 2004.

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