We all have different backgrounds. We have personal experiences with convictions. Our methods of interpreting scripture vary. Our minds work in numerous ways. How could we not have different beliefs? There is certain respect due to another's thoughts. But i'm against interfaithism. So I'm curiuos, when do we say heresy is heresy? When do we call foul? How many topics can a person be wrong on before he/she becomes a false teacher? 5? 10? 1?

-- Luke Juarez (hubertdorm@yahoo.com), September 29, 2004

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James (yellow highlight James) posted Catholic views/definitions of different negative religious terms, but I don't remember which thread they were on.

-- Luke Juarez (hubertdorm@yahoo.com), September 29, 2004.

btw, I saw kevin use the yellow highlighter. Perhaps this is why miss beverly thought he was Catholic??

-- Luke Juarez (hubertdorm@yahoo.com), September 29, 2004.

Luke

Catholics aren't allowed to say the h-word word anymore. its unecumenical.

they are, however, allowed to use the s-word (schism) because that will only offend other Catholics.

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), September 30, 2004.

here's what the Catechism says:

"Incredulity" is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. [I guess this means so-called Cafeteria Catholics]

"Heresy" is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same. [Protestants, Liberal Catholics]

"apostasy" is the total repudiation of the Christian faith. [Converts to non-Christianity, non-believers,...]

"schism" is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him. [the Eastern Schism and other "disobedient" Catholics]

i think the incredulous, the heretics and the apostates are all in truth degrees of the same thing, and that they are all also schismatics, but i am only guessing.

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), September 30, 2004.

This is an interfaith forum now, Luke. In interfaith participation, participants let others know of their beliefs. Whether people agree or disagree with them is of no consequence. We are not here to covert others but to share ideas, beliefs, ....

Ecumenism makes the assumption all faiths are true.

Whether most posters here make think my ideas are heretical is no consequence to me. I defend what I believe is true, sound doctrine. Sometimes I agree with the points of others.

But no one here can prove with 100% certitude their Church or belief system is 100% true.

As long as we maintain a friendly atmosphere, we can share what we think, believe,...

This way, I believe, we can have more of an open mind for those who hold belifs that are opposite to what we believe.

The Christian Yahwist

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), September 30, 2004.

Is it really interfaith? Almost everyone who posts here identifies with the Christian faith, and while we have many different views, the topics remain inside this one faith. I would say we are more interdenominational than interfaith, but simply a matter of opinion.

-- Luke Juarez (hubertdorm@yahoo.com), September 30, 2004.

"Ecumenism makes the assumption all faiths are true."

that is certainly the practical effect, i would agree with you.

obviously they cannot *all* be true because they each contradict the other; but one can identify, and sweep under the carpet, the differences; and one can live in the dream that each has its own salvific quality. live and let live, as it were.

it's certainly a kind of unity, i guess, but one that is based upon the most crazy compromise - because, as we have seen, the faith that is the One 100% true faith becomes polluted and begins to loose its truth.

we then risk losing it forever.

for that reason, i also agree with Luke when he says "....i'm against interfaithism...".

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), October 01, 2004.