Some questions you won't hear in tommorow's debate

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Well, the first debate is tommorow night, and we can expect nothing but the same bullshit rhetoric from both sides. Kerry will use soft euphamisms instead of telling it like it is. Bush will just lie through his teeth. Here are some questions Kerry will NOT have the balls to ask:

Mr. Bush, during the 2000 election, you attacked Al Gore for being a "supporter of big government", did you not? Now tell me, is your federal government bigger or smaller than Clinton's?

Does the federal government have more or less power than it did under Clinton?

Is federal spending greater or smaller than it was under Clinton?

Is the deficit bigger or smaller than it was under Clinton?

Mr. Bush, what were you thinking when you broke the tradition and became the first President since Roosavelt to refuse to walk the last several blocks to the White House on innauguration? Did you think you were simply too good for the people? Or did you not want to have to look at the signs that said "hail to the thief"?

Mr. Bush, did you feel even a little bit guilty when you proposed to eliminate a program called "reading is fundamental", that gave free books to poor kids?

Mr. Bush, where are those weapons and why did you BULLSHIT us?

Mr. Bush, I'm sure you are proud of the two Guiness World Records you currently hold: one for most corporate campaign contributions and the other for provoking more people to protest you at once than any leader in human history (ten million).

Mr. Bush, would you like to explain to the American people that your little PR stunt in Iraq with the "thanksgiving dinner" was staged at 6 AM, with soldiers screened for their political background and served a plastic turkey, or should I?

Mr. Bush, how do you sleep at night knowing 45 million people have no healthcare?

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), September 29, 2004

Answers

That makes a lot of sense, you wouldn't want him to be classy. I sure wouldn't expect a Democrat to, they sure didn't when they lost Congress. Or in the past 35 or so years. But I'm sure he will say whatever he thinks will get him more votes.

I don't know why even he would sink to calling him "Mr." Bush. I mean do you have some kind of source that shows an independent recount not pointing to him as the winner in Florida? No, every recount shows him the winner.

This was not an issue though, when Hill Billy Clinton was running for President and called George The Elder Mr. Bush although.

As for your big government questions, and Clinton. If Kerry would bring up big government you must think one of the most liberal senators, has a plain for cutting government. And I know this hard to grasp, young shitbutt, but he might look like kind of a little dumbass if he asks questions about the past during debate during the current debate.

Here are some: President Bush, as far as you know did Clinton propose any kind of plain to balance the budget, or cut welfare, before he caused the Republicans to gain control of Congress? Did Clinton even propose a budget whatsoever that he presented to Congress, if so was any of it in this?

Do you find these protestors to be educated assute individuals, or is it just a coincidence that almost all pot heads, and scabby mouth dicksuckers vote Democrat if they vote at all.

Should I be bringing up Weapons of Mass Destruction when I wrote a letter to you, agreeing Saddam had em and must be stopped. Should I be bringing up Clinton when he was planning to do the same thing as you, but at least you got Congresses permission?

Do you think it's unfair that 200 million no 100 million Americans don't have health care coverage, but almost every single Mexican illegal does, free, and so on.

Do you agree voting ballots should be in Spanish, in districts where the Motor Voter Bill is excersed? My research indicates almost all districts with heavy numbers of Mexicans have ballots in Spanish. And are Democrat. Are you doing to try and cheat and limit their voting rights, until they get a driver's licnence or at least become citizens and learn English.

Should I be taking cue from an excited 14 year old? Hey I'm a Democrat do really believe our standards aren't clownish and can't sink lower!

-- (airhead@nAMbLa.org), September 29, 2004.


OBTW, Here is the Contract with America

Don't you know, this is why Clinton had his wife scare the shit out of this country just so his party would lose enough seats in Congress for many of these bills to get passed through (except of course Term Limits and a plain to save social secrurity while still increasing spending on it 7% he blocked that) him and Newt Gingrich had a deal since day one. Clinton wasn't just the good bullshitter for the damned dumb and ill informed, and incompitent statesmen some political pundits made him out to be. So why he delayed the signing of these measures, I don't know. I guess so all the Brighteys could say it was him all along??? Don't let the facts stand in the way of the profusive farting and feelings.

-- (goeatyourmama@oedipussy.sickdemomama'sboys), September 29, 2004.


Mr. Bush, during the 2000 election, you attacked Al Gore for being a "supporter of big government", did you not? Now tell me, is your federal government bigger or smaller than Clinton's?

It grew do to the war on terror. Furthermore people later on in Bush's presidency started to demand that big gov. get involved in things.

Does the federal government have more or less power than it did under Clinton?

More, but things came up. Thankfully bush said he would veto any bill that didnt have a 10 year sun set rule.

Is federal spending greater or smaller than it was under Clinton?

Greater do to the war and dem. add ons on bills that had to be passed.

Is the deficit bigger or smaller than it was under Clinton?

Greater do to the many military actions

Mr. Bush, what were you thinking when you broke the tradition and became the first President since Roosavelt to refuse to walk the last several blocks to the White House on innauguration? Did you think you were simply too good for the people? Or did you not want to have to look at the signs that said "hail to the thief"?

This question in no way correlates to anything going on to-day. I did not know that that was a tradition, but frankly I could care less. Perhaps he was avoiding an attack maybe a threat had been made. Who knows? So to try to use the question against him is a sign of weakness with one's own arguement.

Mr. Bush, did you feel even a little bit guilty when you proposed to eliminate a program called "reading is fundamental", that gave free books to poor kids?

Again I know not enough say either way for bush. But what business does the gov. have being involved in education isnt that against out constitution? perhaps you should read the first 10 amendments.

Mr. Bush, where are those weapons and why did you BULLSHIT us?

England France Russia Israel all said the had the weapons. So did our intel. Now it turns out he may have smuggled them to Syria, or perhaps his own Generals lied to him and said they had the WMDs. Maybe the Baath party was afraid if it told the Iraqi people it had no WMDs a revoltion would begin.

Mr. Bush, I'm sure you are proud of the two Guiness World Records you currently hold: one for most corporate campaign contributions and the other for provoking more people to protest you at once than any leader in human history (ten million).

Really lets talk corps? Frist off why is it your concern if a Corp. wants to donate money to Bush? Second of all the Dem. recieved 65% of their money from Jews. 3rd off have you ever heard of the silent majority? Conservatives tend to not protest, even though they are the majority.

Mr. Bush, would you like to explain to the American people that your little PR stunt in Iraq with the "thanksgiving dinner" was staged at 6 AM, with soldiers screened for their political background and served a plastic turkey, or should I?

This is not true! I was in Iraq at that time. This question is not a true statement at all.

Mr. Bush, how do you sleep at night knowing 45 million people have no healthcare?

Once again it is not the Federal gov. job to give out healthcare. In our gov. that is the States job.

-- Lt. Alexander (Annunaki God@aol.com), September 29, 2004.


Well fellas, as Mr. Third Party/Casual Observer, I have to say that sadly, Kerry got his ass handed to him in this debate. Doesn't matter though, either way we're fucked.

-- I Like Pasta (breadsticks@parmesan.com), September 30, 2004.

Pasta,

Why would you say that? I agree with you, in the beginning, Kerry was being a fumblemouthed retard, dropping too many statistics and mentioning some general that supported to him nonstop. But I think he did a decent job of making up for it. All Bush could do is fumble around talking about how having Bilateral talks with North Korea would be "just what Kim Jung Il wants", to further "nukular" proliferation. besides, he (Bush) "knows how the world works!" Holy shit, Kerry IS screwed! We've got someone omnipotent running. The way I see it, Kerry didn't offer much at all, sadly, and bush used that evil charisma to make it sound like he knew exactly what he was talking about. This race will be close. While I don't think Kerry got his ass handed to him, you are right in that this doesn't look good for the american people...

-- U msut Feers Me (W.lovesblow@blank.com), September 30, 2004.



U,

Totally. See, Kerry was doing okay in the latter half, but just the whole Iraq issue, y'know? Bush kept pinging on Kerry flip-flopping, and I have to be honest, some of it actually made sense.

To be honest, I was missing a lot of the latter part because I was watching it at my school's union and besides all the background noise, the place would just light up with war-whoops and applause whenever Bush would open his fat mouth.

Anyway, I hope you all see now what our true purpose in Iraq is. Do any of you really think that nuclear weapons are our big ballbuster? No. We know N. Korea's got em, but we're not there because there's no oil. Tell you what, if we send troops into N. Korea or even try to talk them down, maybe I'll admit I'm wrong.

I'm all with U on the whole "Kerry didn't really offer anything" Jesus how true is that? Half of what I heard was a bunch of lame explanation on how he really WASN'T contradicting himself. One thing I will say for both candidates is that they handled the whole "character issues" question really well. Yes, even Bush.

I just think either way we're screwed. I think deep down in both their hearts they both love America, but I don't think that Kerry knows how to fix what Bush fucked up so of course Bush is going to work us all over until it sounds like he's some kind of military genius and Kerry has no plan. Maybe Kerry doesn't have a plan, but I'm more sympathetic with him because trying to un-fuck everything that Bush did in office is beyond anybody's scope.

-- I Like Pasta (macaroni@cheese.com), September 30, 2004.


"I don't know why even he would sink to calling him "Mr." Bush. I mean do you have some kind of source that shows an independent recount not pointing to him as the winner in Florida? No, every recount shows him the winner."

Umm...I never brought up the 2000 coup (I refuse to call it an election) because it's totaly irrelevant in this election...but if you wanna talk about it, fine.

The recounts didn't mean anything. The problem was that thousands of eligible voters (mostly African Americans, 90% registered Democrats) were disenfranchised. The Florida government hired a pro-Bush firm to update the voter rolls. Katherine Harris told them to "cast a net as wide as possible" to remove inneligible people (mostly felons). They ended up removing thousands of elligible, registered voters from the rolls, including at least 6,000 african-americans. These people weren't allowed to cast ballots, so a recount was completely useless. The Democrats are just too damn stupid to go after the real problem.

"As for your big government questions, and Clinton. If Kerry would bring up big government you must think one of the most liberal senators, has a plain for cutting government. And I know this hard to grasp, young shitbutt, but he might look like kind of a little dumbass if he asks questions about the past during debate during the current debate."

Using insults like shitbutt, clever as that quip was, isn't going to make up for your shitty arguments and rudimentary grasp of the english language.

"Here are some: President Bush, as far as you know did Clinton propose any kind of plain to balance the budget, or cut welfare, before he caused the Republicans to gain control of Congress? Did Clinton even propose a budget whatsoever that he presented to Congress, if so was any of it in this?"

Seems like kind of a silly question to ask, considering that happened ten years ago...but I'll take a crack at it. Yes, Clinton proposed a budget. That's part of the President's job description. If he hadn't proposed a budget, there wouldn't be one, and the government would come to a complete halt. Everything would immediately shut down. Since the constitution delegates the authority of drafting a budget to the President, I would like to know who else would have submitted a budget.

Unless you don't know. Then you have my permission to shut up.

"Do you find these protestors to be educated assute individuals, or is it just a coincidence that almost all pot heads, and scabby mouth dicksuckers vote Democrat if they vote at all."

Since when was your perception of the protesters important? Doesn't mean they don't have the right to speak their minds just like anybody else.

"Do you think it's unfair that 200 million no 100 million Americans don't have health care coverage, but almost every single Mexican illegal does, free, and so on."

I'd really like to see a source for that.

"Do you agree voting ballots should be in Spanish, in districts where the Motor Voter Bill is excersed? My research indicates almost all districts with heavy numbers of Mexicans have ballots in Spanish."

I'd like to see that research. Provided it exists.

"Should I be taking cue from an excited 14 year old?"

I'm sixteen.

"OBTW, Here is the Contract with America "

Already read it. Complete bullshit. I already went through and debunked the whole thing on some other thread. Since you seem to have enough free time on your hands to sit on the couch watching Fox News all day, you find it yourself. I'm buisy getting an education.

"It grew do to the war on terror. Furthermore people later on in Bush's presidency started to demand that big gov. get involved in things. "

Ah, so Bush changed his core values because of politics. I beleive his campaign has a term for that...flip-flopping? Naw, couldn't be.

"More, but things came up. Thankfully bush said he would veto any bill that didnt have a 10 year sun set rule."

And yet he is calling to repeal the sunset rule on the PATRIOT Act. Dare I invoke the flip-flop?

"Greater do to the war and dem. add ons on bills that had to be passed."

So first he comes out against big federal spending, and then he FLIP- FLOPS and spends more money than Clinton.

"This question in no way correlates to anything going on to-day. I did not know that that was a tradition, but frankly I could care less. Perhaps he was avoiding an attack maybe a threat had been made. Who knows? So to try to use the question against him is a sign of weakness with one's own arguement."

Nope, it's to show people that Bush ir an arrogant son of a bitch who just doesn't give a damn about the American people. He was born into money and never worked a day in his life, and he considers himself to be above the rest of us.

"Again I know not enough say either way for bush. But what business does the gov. have being involved in education isnt that against out constitution? perhaps you should read the first 10 amendments."

The government excersizes tons of control over education. Bush is calling for the PATRIOT Act to be made permanent, and you're railing against the constitutionality of a program that gave books to poor kids? Where the fuck are your priorities?

"This is not true! I was in Iraq at that time. This question is not a true statement at all."

Were you at Mr. Bush's 6 AM "dinner"?

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), October 01, 2004.


My wife started yellin half way through this so i will finish later. Why would you say that? I agree with you, in the beginning, Kerry was being a fumblemouthed retard, dropping too many statistics and mentioning some general that supported to him nonstop. But I think he did a decent job of making up for it. All Bush could do is fumble around talking about how having Bilateral talks with North Korea would be "just what Kim Jung Il wants", to further "nukular" proliferation. besides, he (Bush) "knows how the world works!" Holy shit, Kerry IS screwed! We've got someone omnipotent running. The way I see it, Kerry didn't offer much at all, sadly, and bush used that evil charisma to make it sound like he knew exactly what he was talking about. This race will be close. While I don't think Kerry got his ass handed to him, you are right in that this doesn't look good for the american people...

You make a joke about what bush said about knowing how the world works. I have been in the Rangers since 92 and I believe I know how the world work.... I have been all over it seen how the politics in the world are run. Bush is president of the United States. He knows things you can only dream of, so I dont see why you had to make a wise crack about that.

Going further you say "evil charisma" let me ask you have you ever like our current president?

"Totally. See, Kerry was doing okay in the latter half, but just the whole Iraq issue, y'know? Bush kept pinging on Kerry flip-flopping, and I have to be honest, some of it actually made sense. "

I never thought Kerry had one good thing to say the whole time. He had a lot of talk, but no real plan. Then they show the crowd after the debate some people have anybody but bush signs. I think that is the bulk of the people wanting to vote for kerry just morons that hate bush so will vote for anyone but him. To take it furthere you damn well know the reason so many young people hate conservative thought is because of the Media, Schools, and Music.

-- Lt. Alexander (Annunaki Got@aol.com), October 01, 2004.


Lt. Alexander,

While I appreciate the response, I don’t think that my crack at Bush saying he “knows how the world works” is much of a joke. Not one person on the Earth knows how the world works. Saying that either means you are God, in a sense, or impossibly arrogant. If Bush knew how the world worked, then he would have a spotless presidency, with no war, no deficits, and no restrictions on civil liberties. All of the three have ensued, therefore, he does not, in fact, know how the world works. (And I don’t mean just Bush… these three occur with almost every president, he just has the nerve to deny it.) I guess what I’m trying to say is that during the debates, he tried to put across an air of infallibility, and I don’t buy any of it. (And of course he knows more than I do! He’s the president; I’m just a Joe Schmoe.)

In the matter of his “Evil Charisma”, what I mean is he has a bit of a hypnotic effect when he talks. You want to like him for some reason, but my way of thinking bitch slaps me back to reality every time. I can honestly say I never have much cared for him, no.

-- U msut Feers Me (W.lovesblow@blank.com), October 01, 2004.


Considering the debate was geared to Bush's strong suit(H.S and war)I thought Kerry did a reasonable job. Hard to believe 65 million folks watched it. I am sure the press will tell us that us Americans still like Bush's handling of terror although most of us have to agree that Iraq did not have a terror problem until we overthrew him.Wish they talked about the assault rifle ban ending and patriot act continuing. I am not against guns. I have one. I am just against giving more of an opportunity for whackos being responsible for taking all our guns away once they raise the bar of psychos shooting kids at schools. I guess we will wait for a problem like just happened in russia/cheknya

-- Bill Brasky (brasky@redneckrampage.com), October 02, 2004.


"Then they show the crowd after the debate some people have anybody but bush signs. I think that is the bulk of the people wanting to vote for kerry just morons that hate bush so will vote for anyone but him. "

And what's wrong with that? Bush is a terrible President. I'd take anybody but him. Does that make my opinion less valid then yours?

"To take it furthere you damn well know the reason so many young people hate conservative thought is because of the Media, Schools, and Music."

Now that's just plain dumb. The media? Oh yeah, what a subversive hotbed. That's why Clear Channel banned Rage Against the Machine from all their stations because they disagreed with the government. That's why they completely ignored Bush's attempt at overthrowing Chavez in Venezuela. That's why Palestinian killers are called terrorists but Isreali killers are called commandos. That's why viewers of every major network were 25 times more likely to see a pro-war source than an anti-war one. That's why every 840 government officials were interviewed by the "liberal media" in the first week of the war and only four were critical of the Bush Administration. Yeah, the media is just one big platform for the Bush-bashers, isn't it? I don't suppose you'd care to offer any reason why the media is liberal...

And schools? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Holy shit, you crack me up. I'm in school right now. You ought to take a look at the history textbook. Loaded with propaganda. Doesn't say anything that makes the US look bad. I remember a passage out of my civics book a few years ago about our foreign policy that said "The United States' foreign policy is based primarily on promoting the values of freedom and democracy abroad." Of course that's complete and total horse shit, considering that the US has the world's worst track record of supporting democracy abroad, but hey, why let the facts get in the way of a solid brainwashing...er...I mean...education...

Military recruiters are allowed to come into the cafeteria at lunch and set up tables so they can hand out their propaganda. They are given our phone numbers and adresses by the school upon request, without our consent. These are rights no college recruiters have. When a recruiter wants to convince the varsity quarterback to go to his college, he is under strict restrictions. He can't meet with the athlete without a coach being present. He can't contact his family without permission from the school. And he sure as hell can't come and recruit during school hours. Apparently our priorities are so skewed that we think students need to be getting an education during the school day. Imagine that.

The majority of my teachers this year are Republicans. I've got a chemistry teacher who decided to go off on a rant the other day about why all the kids in her class who didn't like Bush were just too stupid to think for themselves...my gym teacher tells us all about what Sean Hannity said on his show the other day...my math teacher has me leave the room every morning because I won't stand for the pledge. Yeah. School is a fucking liberal paradise.

As for music, you've got your cause and effect mixed up. Music, like any other art form, is supposed to reflect the problems of society. You've got a whole generation of people that absolutely hate Bush, and that's going to reflect in the music they produce. The same thing happened in the 60's. It's a good thing, for artists to raise awareness for a cause.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), October 02, 2004.


Well I can answer to some of these queries because I am kind of disgusted about this Irish gential and brian dwarfisim.

Umm...I never brought up the 2000 coup (I refuse to call it an election) because it's totaly irrelevant in this election...but if you wanna talk about it, fine. Well please do. Like the man said, show a recount that shows the Bore to be the winner. Or at least a district that shows that illegal aliens vote Republican in majoritiry.

The recounts didn't mean anything. The problem was that thousands of eligible voters (mostly African Americans, 90% registered Democrats) were disenfranchised. The Florida government hired a pro- Bush firm to update the voter rolls. Katherine Harris told them to "cast a net as wide as possible" to remove inneligible people (mostly felons). They ended up removing thousands of elligible, registered voters from the rolls, including at least 6,000 african- americans. These people weren't allowed to cast ballots, so a recount was completely useless. The Democrats are just too damn stupid to go after the real problem. That was was evened out by the illegal vote. But nothing can even out the Irish Curse, no penise pump, nothing.

Seems like kind of a silly question to ask, considering that happened ten years ago...but I'll take a crack at it. Yes, Clinton proposed a budget. That's part of the President's job description. If he hadn't proposed a budget, there wouldn't be one, and the government would come to a complete halt. Everything would immediately shut down. Since the constitution delegates the authority of drafting a budget to the President, I would like to know who else would have submitted a budget. So like Clinton did propose a budget even though he could not run Arkansas worth a shit. Did he propose a budget worth a shit. It is in your burden of proof to show show. My albino, brit tooth, yellow toooth, Irish cursed friend.

"Do you find these protestors to be educated assute individuals, or is it just a coincidence that almost all pot heads, and scabby mouth dicksuckers vote Democrat if they vote at all."

Since when was your perception of the protesters important? Doesn't mean they don't have the right to speak their minds just like anybody else. Like those that think babies should be snuffed but first stuffed. They have the right to be heard to. Or those that think 1+1=3 they have their right too. Doesn't mean their opinion wasn'snt worth a shit. Doesn't mean Jonathan Swift wasn't the best Irishmen that even lived. Or that British are faggots, and Irish have small dicks.

I'd really like to see a source for that. Are you unaware of sarcasim, or are you a yuppie puppy that think you are unique from the other liberal yuppie puppies.

I'd like to see that research. Provided it exists. Statements like that are what give me no respect for Democrats whatsover. Are you saying, there is any district that Illegals vote for Republicans? Any district that is Republican that voting ballots are in Spanish???

"OBTW, Here is the Contract with America "

Already read it. Complete bullshit. I already went through and debunked the whole thing on some other thread. Since you seem to have enough free time on your hands to sit on the couch watching Fox News all day, you find it yourself. I'm buisy getting an education.

You don't know what someone does with their spare time. Since you are always asking for sources it is your job to provide the source that proves a shithead who could not run Arkansas, did notthing but signed and took credit for ideas of those far brilliant then him.

"It grew do to the war on terror. Furthermore people later on in Bush's presidency started to demand that big gov. get involved in things. "

But this is my favorite quote of them all Since you seem to have enough free time on your hands to sit on the couch watching Fox News all day, you find it yourself. I'm buisy getting an education.

LMAO what a noxtious little cunt are you. What an ironic statement. No wonder you are a Democrat. If only Jonathan Swift's Modest Proposel was taken more seriously!!!



-- W (Wwils12@blah.shit), October 02, 2004.


BTW,

I lost my virginity at 16, I bet anything you are still a virign aren't you, CUNT????!!!!!

-- W (Wwils12@blah.shit), October 02, 2004.


"That was was evened out by the illegal vote."

Bullshit. You're pulling that one completely out of your ass. I would really like to see a source for that one.

"So like Clinton did propose a budget even though he could not run Arkansas worth a shit. Did he propose a budget worth a shit. It is in your burden of proof to show show."

No it's not. You're the one who claimed Clinton never proposed a budget, which I have already explained is impossible. If Clinton didn't propose a budget, no one else could have, which means that we spent eight years with no money at all. It's common sense. Did you ever mail a letter during the Clinton Administration? Did you ever ecieve one? If so, then there must have been a budget, because the postal service runs on federal money. I attended school during rhe Clinton years, which also means there had to be some kind of government expenditure. Use your head.

" Statements like that are what give me no respect for Democrats whatsover. Are you saying, there is any district that Illegals vote for Republicans? Any district that is Republican that voting ballots are in Spanish???"

Translation: "No, I actualy don't have the research I claimed to have. I was bullshitting you. My bad."

"LMAO what a noxtious little cunt are you. What an ironic statement. No wonder you are a Democrat."

Except I'm not a Democrat. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), October 03, 2004.


You may think I am the same person as the one who posted above me, but things are not always as they seem.

Bullshit. You're pulling that one completely out of your ass. I would really like to see a source for that one.

No it's not bullshit is very real. And far more real then your conspiracy of Bush purposely blocking votes in Florida. After you assholes were shown to have attempted by failed to steal the election in Florida recounts. The Democrat campaign to get illegals to vote is very real. Such as the Clinton Card http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp? ARTICLE_ID=18000 I can see why it is Democrats are so eager to get illegals to vote. Seeing as they offer absolutely nothing to the Middle class, but tax burden and limitation in freedom.

No it's not. You're the one who claimed Clinton never proposed a budget, which I have already explained is impossible. If Clinton didn't propose a budget, no one else could have, which means that we spent eight years with no money at all.

I can propose a budget. I can jizz on a nampin with dirty words on a budget. Does not mean it's fit for toilet paper. It's also not a constitional requirment for the President to propose a budget, as you pulled out your ass. It was not until the beginning of this century that the President even proposed one. Some asshole that can not run Arkansas is not likely to propose a budget worthy of toilet paper.

For the third time, and not the last I bet. What proof do you have that Clinton had anything to do Balancing the Budget, Welfare Reform etc... all outlined in the Contract of America. Other then having his wife lose Congress for the Democrats so Newt and company could push these bills through?? The Contract of America is not bullshit. 9 out of 10 of it's bills went through the House the first 100 days. It is bullshit that a democratic idiot who could not run Arkansas can be accredicited with such brilliant and new conservative measures. When he was about to socialize the medical profession which would skyrocket the dept, and welfare.

Translation: "No, I actualy don't have the research I claimed to have. I was bullshitting you. My bad." I would really love to see your research that shows illegals vote in droves for Republicans. If you bothered to do your own research you may find out what a terrible inneffecient tool the internet is for finding anything other then porn.

They might. I mean even they may be able to reconize quality when they see it. But it is unlikely as the Democrats are the ones that give them free healthcare, welfare, drivers licence etc... While the Republicans say they should become citizens first like everyone else.

Except I'm not a Democrat. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong? You are a 2 faced cunt rectum. You claim not to be a Democrat because they "betrayed your leftisim" or some nonsense. And in the same breath defend Clinton who you claim to "The perfect Republican." YOu are not even a sinsere liberal. But you are a liberal lemming, and definently a Democrat. And a kicking squeling one at that.

Until you answer the question about how Clinton can be accredited with Newt Gingrich's ideas. I see no reason to continue this discussion, learning disabled blockhead!

-- W (wwils12@netzero.com), October 08, 2004.



I'm sorry what I said about the Irish. They got many of our big cities going as far as how they run with their political ingenuity (sic) and drive, because Politics was the only place they could into, since many places would not hire them for anything. For about 30 years between the Civil War and Roosivelt Administration they made the Democratic party so so. I would be closer to Irish then English.

As for what you said about "The economy totally halting, if the President doesn't propose a budget?" Reagan proposed 8 budgets in his years as President, and all 8 of them were rejected by Congress. A lot of the times they wouldn't even read them. So to attribute him with the high deficiet is also wrong. I know you Democrats just love to make shit up as you along. But you seem another big expert on nothing. And it's a waste of my damn time! If you think I haven't heard one ill informed douchebag lemming attribute the utterly incompitent Clinton with totally Republican made proposals all laid out in the Contract with America you are mistaken, cunt! Enough wasting my time, don't assume those reading your garbage are dumb as you...unless of course they are also Democrats, still. Then it's a safe assumption.

-- W (wwils12@netzero.com), October 08, 2004.


"No it's not bullshit is very real. And far more real then your conspiracy of Bush purposely blocking votes in Florida."

I'm not sure where you got the idea that the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and BBC were all in the habit of publishing conspiracy theories.

As for your "sources", one is an opinion piece by Michael Savage that offers nothing to back up his wild assertions, and the other is an article from worldnetdaily, the bullshit capital of the internet. I've read story after story from that site. Not a single one names a real authority source or refers to a real document. One story made a whole bunch of wild, unproven claims about chemical weapons factories in Iraq, attributing them only to "one unnamed military source" and "certain classified government documents". (If they were so classified, how did some schmucks who got rejected from FOX News manage to get a peek at them?)

Go back and find a reliable source, junior. Then we can debate the Democrats' "voter fraud".

"Some asshole that can not run Arkansas is not likely to propose a budget worthy of toilet paper."

Way to dodge the issue. You claim the Clinton DID NOT PROPOSE A BUDGET. Then I handed your ass to you. Now you...what's the term I'm looking for...FLIP-FLOP...and say "ok, I'm full of shit, he DID propose a budget, but it wasn't any good." That's completely irrelevant. We're not debating whether or not the budget worked (it obviously did, but that's beside the point). You said he didn't propose a budget. He did. Grow some balls and admit it like a man.

"While the Republicans say they should become citizens first like everyone else."

Funny thing is I agree with you on that. Always have. If you go back and read my previous posts that's what I say. There's a lot of things I dissagree with the Democrats on. I'm not a blind Party lemming like you.

"Until you answer the question about how Clinton can be accredited with Newt Gingrich's ideas"

What ideas would those be?

"I'm sorry what I said about the Irish."

You should be.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), October 08, 2004.


Let's be clear here. Clinton did not propose any bills to Congress concerning balancing the budget, welfare reform, members of Congress would have to follow the same rules they passed etc... These were all given in the contract with America which people here have already showed. If these were due to Clinton it is you who needs to provide a source showing this. All he did was delay and fuckup Republican proposals. Just because you are too stupid to understand that not everything that happens while someone is in the oval office is due to them does not change anything. Ms. Clinton can take no credit for balancing the budget, welfare reform etc... Just blocking something that would have saved social secrurity. His husband Hillary on the other hand played a great role in the Republican revolution by causing the Democrats to lose both houses of Congress!

-- Shane McShame (mcshame@yahoo.com), November 11, 2004.

Wow, I never get tired of having to explain this same point verbatim to you idiots who don't get it: the President proposes a budget, not Congress. Read the constitution. If Clinton didn't propose a budget, who decided where all the money went?

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), November 11, 2004.

Wow! After I just explained to you that all 8 of Reagan's budgets were rejected by Congress you still have the guile to post such stupidity. It is not in the Constition that the President propose a budget CUNT! It has been something the oval office has only done for the past 80 years or so. Clinton the idiot did not propose an amendment to balance the budget, that in itself is seperate anyway from proposing a spending budget. Had he lost in 96 the Republicans would have been able to reserve the stupidity of the liberals that this country loaths oh so much.

Do I take it that Clinton did not get anything done then as President besides lowering the standards and respect of his office. And bringing a Hitleresque quality of propaganda with his spin doctors, and other such bullshit that you may call him.

-- W (wwils12@netzero.com), November 27, 2004.


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