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Yep, you're right. September 11th was bad, so therefore we must vote for Bush. Your logic never ceases to amaze me.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 26, 2004.

It doesn't begin or stop with Bush, you fucking retard! Why am I trying to reason with a child?

-- The Truth (thetruth@thetruth.com), August 26, 2004.

We can only HOPE that it stops with Bush.

I love how Republicans show us pictures of cute little white kids with American flags to rally support for meaningless wars. Republicans are the first ones to say "I support the troops!" Well, the troops want to come home.

I'd also like to point out that yes, September 11th was very bad. I think that we should get rid of the people responsible. The problem is that half of them are running this country, and the other half aren't even being looked for anymore.

-- Bored (bored@boring.com), August 26, 2004.

The ones truly responsible for the attacks are the terrorists, but the Clinton administration emboldened the scum. We're still hunting the Al Qaeda terror organization, but in the process, we topplede Sadaam Hussein, the Iraqi dictator/butcher and we whacked his two sicko sons, thus liberating Iraq from the iron-fisted grasp of the worst madman since Hitler.

-- Garret Ford (Parallax281457689@Yahoo.com), August 27, 2004.

Right. And NOW Iraq is in the grip of the Bush administration. Gee...thanks.

-- Bored (bored@boring.com), August 27, 2004.

It is not!

-- ;ldfmgbfd/ (c;lbkdnmg;lxmg@fd;knmgd/.com), August 27, 2004.

You are not only wrong in thinking so, you are also wrong to support an "assbag" (as the teenagers like to say) such as Bush.

Now take a look at Kerry: Physically fit, clean smile, undamnable war record; this guy has it all. If you look at it the way I see things (which are very, very true) then how can you disagree? With a guy like that on the podium telling America what it wants to hear, how can you lose?

Bush wants to do an endorsement deal with Nike to try and be, as the teenagers say yet again, a "ghetto home-dawg", to try and lure supple, young, impressionable 18 year old males to vote for him. But we can see his true colors.

Fact #18: Bush refuses to touch black people (including hand-shaking).

Remember: Bush will be drunk-driving down your street in November. Don't vote for him at all.

-- -- (dermondstate@citywoxley.org), August 29, 2004.

Bush is a funny guy. That time that he wrecked his car on an alcoholic coke binge through Texas? He said later that it was a mistake that many young people make or something like that. He was pushing 40 when it happened. Hahaha...stupid worthless Republicans.

-- Formerly Known as Bored (.@..com), August 29, 2004.

That Clinton is something else. Pressed if he did or didn't do weed, he finally said he did but he didn't inhale!!!??? Wow now that is someone you can trust. And they say character doesn't matter in a leader!!?? You can really trust those democrats and attorneys, and what they do for YOU.

As for Kerry, he brought up his war record not Bush. And so some guys from his unit took it upon them self to come forward and start an organization just to point out what a paper asshole he is, with his purple decorations. He even brought a film crew with him to Vietnam, I'm sure he was doing some heavy fighting. Now he says his purple hearts are no big deal, well they are a big deal to anyone who has actually earned one. That is why Bob Dole, a man so paralized by his war wounds he has lost the use of his right arm asked, "how can you earn 3 purple hearts without bleeding??"

You liberals are soo easy to fool. Should Bush have been something useful during Vietnam like demonstrating weapons to RUSSIA like Comrade Clinton, or testifying to Congress about what assholes his fellow soilders were, then escorting someone like Jayne Fonda around. Who the POWS would get their arms broke, if they didn't shake her hand. Like I said you liberals are such unique asstute thinkers, and those Democrats are so trust worthy!

Why don't you use those great heads of yours for something useful like blocking a bullet for a valuable life!

-- (bored@thisboard.net), August 29, 2004.

Yeah "character doesn't matter." Just judge his record as governor of Arkansas. Hahahahah. Such asstute thinkers (get it like a donkey like Rainbow Colonition PUSH-->)

-- (bored@boardthis.net), August 29, 2004.

"That Clinton is something else. Pressed if he did or didn't do weed, he finally said he did but he didn't inhale!!!??? Wow now that is someone you can trust. And they say character doesn't matter in a leader!!??"

That Bush is something else. When pressed if he did or didn't do coccaine, he neither confirmed nor denied it, but said that if he did, it was a "youthfull indiscretion", but that parents who used drugs in the past shouldn't ever tell their kids about it because then they would be hypocritical.

"As for Kerry, he brought up his war record not Bush. And so some guys from his unit took it upon them self to come forward and start an organization just to point out what a paper asshole he is, with his purple decorations."

Well, if Bill O'Reilly said it, it must be true. ACTUALY, not a single member of "Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth" actualy served on Kerry's boat. All of the men that did serve on his boat were up on stage with him during the convention (except one guy who was dead). The only person in the group that might actualy know anything about Kerry's war record was the captain of the other swift boat that was there during the battle. Only problem is, the report he filled out at the end of the day said the same thing as Kerry's--that they were fired upon--and no he's saying there was none (somehow, even though their accounts of the battle were exactly the same, Kerry lied and he didn't...yeah, that makes sense). He also recieved a bronze star for the battle, just as Kerry did, that he now claims never happened.

Not to mention the fact that he and most of the other members of the group have all told Kerry's biographers on several occasions that Kerry acted quite heroicaly. They only changed their tune recently when the GOP money started flowing. Oh, and the doctor who claimed to have treated Kerry's "superficial wound"? His name appears nowhere on the medical record at all.

Many respected people have come out in support of John Kerry, including John McCain and the editor of the Chicago Tribune. Now who am I going to believe, John McCain, a decorated war veteran and a POW (not to mention everyone who served with John Kerry), or some lowlives who will sell out their fellow soldier as soon as the cash starts flowing?

But you're right. Kerry should have had daddy pull some strings to get him into the national guard and assigned to a plane that was being phased out. Then he should have deserted and snorted coccaine like Bush did. Yeah, that's hero's work right there.

"Should Bush have been something useful during Vietnam like demonstrating weapons to RUSSIA like Comrade Clinton"

What??? Where the hell did you hear that? I would really like to see a source for that.

"or testifying to Congress about what assholes his fellow soilders were,"

Yeah, what an asshole, telling Congress about American atrocities. It should only be a big deal when OTHER COUNTRIES slaughter civilians, not when Americans do it!

"Yeah "character doesn't matter." Just judge his record as governor of Arkansas."

Yeah, he was a shitty Governor. He should have done things like execute mentaly retarted people and minors, and then ignore a human rights watch letter from all the leaders of the European Union, like Dubya did. What a leader.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 29, 2004.

Bush wants to do an endorsement deal with Nike to try and be, as the teenagers say yet again, a "ghetto home-dawg", to try and lure supple, young, impressionable 18 year old males to vote for him. But we can see his true colors

trust that motherfucker to try and pander to the jigaboos like that to get are votes away. can you belife that nigger barry bonds said he would not play for the sox here cus we are too racist? niggers like that should keep in the cotton field or baseball field and stay out of the political arena. where they take all the benifits away from peopel who need em, like me! well as long as the jigaboos keep voting right, we won't deem em totalley worthless.

-- True Red Bostonian (nottheblacksox@yahoo.com), August 29, 2004.

Don't lose it and make a stinky mess, boy. You have to shrug off this debates poopy pants, don't be frustrated if you suffer from the curse or something that delays sorton functions of your puberty process where this is the only way you can get it off.

That Bush is something else. When pressed if he did or didn't do coccaine, he neither confirmed nor denied it, but said that if he did, it was a "youthfull indiscretion", but that parents who used drugs in the past shouldn't ever tell their kids about it because then they would be hypocritical.

In other words none of their business. Not; well I did a little cocaine, but then I blew my nose. And parents should not be able to advice their kids against doing anything foolish, if they did it themself. If they didn't graduate high school neither should their kid. Do you see where I'm going with this poopy pants, boy?

Well, if Bill O'Reilly said it, it must be true. ACTUALY, not a single member of "Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth" actualy served on Kerry's boat. All of the men that did serve on his boat were up on stage with him during the convention (except one guy who was dead). The only person in the group that might actualy know anything about Kerry's war record was the captain of the other swift boat that was there during the battle. Only problem is, the report he filled out at the end of the day said the same thing as Kerry's--that they were fired upon--and no he's saying there was none (somehow, even though their accounts of the battle were exactly the same, Kerry lied and he didn't...yeah, that makes sense). He also recieved a bronze star for the battle, just as Kerry did, that he now claims never happened.

Did O'Reilly say it? Do you have a link that none of those guys served under him?

Not to mention the fact that he and most of the other members of the group have all told Kerry's biographers on several occasions that Kerry acted quite heroicaly. They only changed their tune recently when the GOP money started flowing. Oh, and the doctor who claimed to have treated Kerry's "superficial wound"? His name appears nowhere on the medical record at all.

Do you have a link to that. Or is it just coming from the right pundits?

Many respected people have come out in support of John Kerry, including John McCain and the editor of the Chicago Tribune.

That is suprising that McCain a Republican would support Kerry. You sure he didn't just say, drop it. And hell if the editor of the Tribune supports him. I'm almost sorton the Editor of the New York Times supports him too.

Now who am I going to believe, John McCain, a decorated war veteran and a POW (not to mention everyone who served with John Kerry), or some lowlives who will sell out their fellow soldier as soon as the cash starts flowing?

Yes lowlives who sell out their fellow soilders, and support people like Jayne Fonda are pretty low indeed. I would be more likely to believe the people who served under him, and one of his commanding officers, who have all come out against him.

What??? Where the hell did you hear that? I would really like to see a source for that.

Golly gee, stinky boy, if you haven't heard it it must not be true. Yeah, he was a shitty Governor. He should have done things like execute mentaly retarted people and minors, and then ignore a human rights watch letter from all the leaders of the European Union, like Dubya did. What a leader.

No he should just not run for President if he can't run a bumble fuck state like Arkansas. They did make it to number one in murder's per capita, and so I guess Clinton didn't need the state to carry executions.

That was even more unsatisfying then it looked. You know what they say about how winning a debate on the internet is usually like winning a gold metal at the special Olympics. Well just relax little fellow, and things will feel mella! Moron!

-- (a@b.c), August 29, 2004.

"In other words none of their business. Not; well I did a little cocaine, but then I blew my nose. And parents should not be able to advice their kids against doing anything foolish, if they did it themself. If they didn't graduate high school neither should their kid. Do you see where I'm going with this poopy pants, boy?"

Yep. It's ok for Bush to evade the question of whether or not he used drugs, but not for Clinton.

As for your links:

www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=231

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html

Here are Kerry's military records:

http://news.findlaw.com/legalnews/lit/election2004/docs.html#jkerry

The links above should set the record straight.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 29, 2004.

Saying it was a youthful indiscretion sounds like answering the question to me. Do you really not the see the difference between that and balless bullshit like "well I smoked weed, but I didn't inhale"???? or "I got head, but that doesn't count as sexual intercourse which is why I used a cigar. Plus I didn't want her to be bored" u fucking BLOCKHEAD!

I'll be on to disect the links tommorow.

-- (a@b.c), August 29, 2004.

Saying it was a youthful indiscretion sounds like answering the question to me. Do you really not the see the difference between that and balless bullshit like "well I smoked weed, but I didn't inhale"???? or "I got head, but that doesn't count as sexual intercourse which is why I used a cigar. Plus I didn't want her to be bored" u fucking BLOCKHEAD!

I'll be on to disect the links tommorow.

-- (a@b.c), August 29, 2004.

This is without a doubt the worse response ever.

You little mice try to hide behind the giant elephant when you get a question thrown your way. Sure, Clinton did try to minimize, with responses such as "I did not inhale" and "oral sex does not count as real sexual relations", but to get down to brass tacks, he did admit to it. Bush, however, goes "Uh... *cough*mrhprhm*cough* Next question," which is why we should burn him at the stake.

But then again, what impact on our country's economy will these "indiscretions" have, these past, private indiscretions? Whenever Bush fucks up (which is often), you conservative dickless sons of bitches bring up weed-smoking, dicksucking Clinton antics that happened in the past! Gas prices aren't going up because Clinton got his knob jobbed, you dumb fucks!

Because of Bush, this whole country is going down the tubes...

...wait a minute, what tubes?

-- -- (dermondstate@citywoxley.org), August 30, 2004.

Dermon,

The point with Clinton is that Monica was an intern working under him. Therefore it is not just an encounter, but illegal sexual harassment. He is a lawyer and should know better. Very poor judgement for a President, and lying under oath is another crime. He wasn't impeached for no reason!

Bush, otoh, you may not like, but has not done anything harmful to the Presidency itself like Klinton.

Bazooka Joe

-- 2 (1@3.4), August 30, 2004.

Put things in perspective. "Did you lie about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction?" or "Did you lie about a blow job?"

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 30, 2004.

"Gas prices aren't going up because Clinton got his knob jobbed, you dumb fucks!"

That is the best fucking thing I've ever read.

-- Jaidev (j-jaster@yahoo.com), August 30, 2004.

Anti,

The point is that Klinton was found to have lied, and although people who don't like President Bush may *claim* he lied, no one has proven he did. There is a big difference between the two.

Bazooka Joe

-- 2 (1@3.4), August 30, 2004.

Put things in perspective. "Did you lie about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction?" or "Did you lie about a blow job?"

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 30, 2004.

Exactly my point.

"Gas prices aren't going up because Clinton got his knob jobbed, you dumb fucks!"

That is the best fucking thing I've ever read.

-- Jaidev (j-jaster@yahoo.com), August 30, 2004.

Thanks. I really meant it, though.

Anti,

The point is that Klinton was found to have lied, and although people who don't like President Bush may *claim* he lied, no one has proven he did. There is a big difference between the two.

Bazooka Joe

-- 2 (1@3.4), August 30, 2004.

...What the fuck is this Klinton shit? The C on your keyboard seems to work fine. Please, explain this.

And no one has proven that Bush lied because he never directly answered those questions, he just stepped around them. If ducking and dodging questions affected him physically, he'd have one hell of a bad back.

-- -- (dermondstate@citywoxley.org), August 30, 2004.

Oh yea that's real deep man. Nevermind that the stock market slid in 2000 while Clinton was in office and is now recovering. And Clinton was not impeached for lying about a blowjob, he was impeached for the arrogance of telling Monica Lewinsky to lie if supeoned. Which is suborning perjury. Other then being a hibibula liar, and embarrasement, there is not a lot of postive things he did while in office.

And demondstrate (wtf does that spell) can you not follow a conversation, or do you just assume anyone reading cannot? Anti-Bush (A name that demonstrates the Democrat's agenda for everything if there ever was one) Is the one who brought up Bushes DUI incident and Cocaine use, which have nothing to do with anything. And he did what he should, he said none of your business. Not something along the lines of I snorted cocaine but did not inhale! All that does when you give answers like that is teach kids they should try to bullshit their way out of everything. Now I know you are just here to waste time, and find someone along your lines to tell you what a great thinker you are. Well just tell me if I am speaking cuntenese correctly. Or is one of those catch 22's where you can't truly be one if you know you are one?

-- (a@b.c), August 30, 2004.

Those links do not explain how Kerry, earns 3 purple hearts in 4 months, has not one disablity or wound. At least Bush was not testifying before Congress and parading around with Fonda. Do you need me to find source to explain the pain our troops would experience if they did not salute comrade Jayne? Are you saying that someone who fought in combat, even superfically, should be elected soley on that? So Bush the Elder, and Dole should have been elected over Clinton?

Kerry is a leftist douche and has the voting record to prove it?

-- (a@b.c), August 30, 2004.

~!

-- (a@b.c), August 30, 2004.

"The point is that Klinton was found to have lied, and although people who don't like President Bush may *claim* he lied, no one has proven he did. There is a big difference between the two."

Yeah, Clinton was proven to have lied about something that was none of the public's buisiness, Bush may have lied about the pretext for a war that has claimed a thousand of our soldiers. There is a big difference between the relevance of the two.

"Those links do not explain how Kerry, earns 3 purple hearts in 4 months, has not one disablity or wound. "

But he did! The man got hit by shrapnel, for Christ's sake! You haven't brought a single source to the table so far to argue that Kerry wasn't actualy wounded. You're relying entirely on some stupid ad that has been proven to be bullshit.

" At least Bush was not testifying before Congress and parading around with Fonda."

Nope, he was having strings pulled to get him into the National Guard, deserting, and snorting coccaine. What a fucking hero.

"Do you need me to find source to explain the pain our troops would experience if they did not salute comrade Jayne?"

Well, since you offered, yes. I do.

"Are you saying that someone who fought in combat, even superfically, should be elected soley on that?"

No, he should be elected solely on the fact that he hasn't lied to start a war for his own personal gain, tried his damndest to destroy the environment, or given a handout to his corporate buddies at the expense of the American people every step of the way. Kerry's not perfect (hell, he sucks!), but he's not Bush, and that would get him my vote any day of the week.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 30, 2004.

Yeah, Anti pretty much summed up what I wanted to say (plus tax).

Prove some real info backing up your Kerry wound claims and whatnot, and I'll start giving you a day in court.

-- -- (dermondstate@citywoxley.org), August 31, 2004.

"Kerry's not perfect (hell, he sucks!), but he's not Bush, and that would get him my vote any day of the week."

Amen, brother...amen.

-- Jaidev (j-jaster@yahoo.com), August 31, 2004.

Anti,

Yeah, Clinton was proven to have lied about something that was none of the public's buisiness,

The trouble is in addition to being President, Klinton is also a lawyer, and to commit perjury and ask someone ELSE to commit perjury are both serious crimes. If you or I did the same, we'd be in jail right now. It's not "nothing", and again since Mrs. Lewinsky was an intern under him, if he was a Republican, there'd be a harassment suit like you can't believe. Of course since he's Dem, these both get overlooked :-(

"Do you need me to find source to explain the pain our troops would experience if they did not salute comrade Jayne?"

Well, since you offered, yes. I do

If you search the internet, you can assuredly find the infamous picture of Jane Fonda sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun pretending to be aiming at American planes. Many people (myself included) really harbor a deep resentment of Hanoi Jane, regardless of their thoughts on the Vietnam war.

-- 2 (1@3.4), August 31, 2004.

"The trouble is in addition to being President, Klinton is also a lawyer, and to commit perjury and ask someone ELSE to commit perjury are both serious crimes. If you or I did the same, we'd be in jail right now. It's not "nothing", and again since Mrs. Lewinsky was an intern under him, if he was a Republican, there'd be a harassment suit like you can't believe. Of course since he's Dem, these both get overlooked :-("

If you or I knowingly exposed an undercover American agent, we'd be in jail right now. If Clinton had done it, the Republicans would've had a fuckin field day.

I looked up the stuff on Jane Fonda. Yeah, she was a total bitch. Making propaganda for the Viet Cong, telling Americans about how the POW's were treated so well when really they were being starved and beaten and tortured...that's pretty messed up.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), August 31, 2004.

Anti,

I agree completely on exposing an undercover agent btw, the country is supposed to come before an individual.

BJ

-- 2 (1@3.4), August 31, 2004.

I love the fact that all of you argue so violently back and forth to try to convince the other side to see your truth. But the fact is, liberals have already taken a leave of absense from reality, and therefore they cannot convince a thinking person to accept their delusions. Conservatives get frustrated trying to explain simple logic to a liberal, and then they yell. (It's their passion for truth that gets them in trouble).

-- Sammy Hooper (junebug@3ol.com), September 28, 2004.

Care to elaborate? Or don't you have anything of any substance to say?

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), September 28, 2004.