Habemus Papa was a dream I had in July 2003. That's all I remember.

This dream was after the one I had on April 22, 2003. In that dream I see a connection between my mother, the Pope, and President Bush.

That connection came again on the dream I had on July 4, 2004.

I was told about 123 people that will die within 3 years. As of today, the first 14 on line have died except numbers 9 and 10.

Will this be the end of my connection to the Pope since April 1991?

Maybe so. God Yahweh connected my life to his. It has been 13 years. I had told Rod before in an e-mail that I could not start a Church until the Pope dies. Then my allegiance to him will dissapear.

Those who died already since July 4: Eric Douglas (July 6), Klestil,, Isabel sanford, Georgine Darcy, Suan Buffet, Jackson Beck, Eugene roche, Sam Edwards. The se were the first 8. Then death skipped 9 (Antonio Aguilar and 10 Fidel Castro for now). Then 11 was RickJames, 12 Fay Wray, 13 Paul 'Mousie' Garner, and 14 Julia child on August 13.

The Pope was number 15 and President Bush number 19 or 20. My mother was 61.

Taken from the thread, Can faith stop death? ¿puede la fe para la muerte?

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00CGgE

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-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), August 13, 2004

Answers

In the thread,

Has anyone had a dream about the Pope lately? http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00AlZm

which appeared in April 22, 2003, I wrote:

This morning around 6:10 . It was the third of 3 dreams I had. One was about my mother. The other about President Bush.This one I don't remember quite clearly. I saw the Pope getting in his private airplane waving goodbye. He was dressed in white like always. I heard a voice saying : The Pope is only making 2 more trips....( plus something else I don't want to say publicly).

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonzalez@srla.org), April 22, 2003

As soon as I hear the words 2 more trips of four, then I get transplanted into a Bush conference. I hear shots. Bush ducks or is taken down by the bullets or the bodyguards. I don't see him anymore. The Secret Service looks everywhere for whoever made the shots. I tell them, the shots came from this side. They don't pay me any attention except for one. That's when my dream ends.

I had written my last letter to the Pope in May 2002.

Here is that letter at the thread,

The Yahwist and The Pope:John Paul II http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00C2io

I had had a dream of the Pope in November 2001 right after dreaming about President Bush and before dreaming about Prince Roger Nelson.

It was the first time I told him I ha planned to leave the Catholic Church. Una nueva Iglesia Universal A pesar de que yo ya voy de salida como católico romano pues he pensado abrir una iglesia universal para cristianos, judio- cristianos , musulmanes, budistas, Bahais y sijs a la cual le pienso poner el nombre de Yavé y Jesucristo. Mi madre y mi esposa me lo confirmaron en sueños que tuvieron ellas que yo iba a tener éxito.Yo iba a llegar a ser un anciano y mis hijos iban a ser parte de esa iglesia , uno de ellos patriarca de ella (en sueños de mi madre la cual todavía es 99% Católica). Ella nunca ha estado de acuerdo que yo abandone la iglesia catolica hasta que tuvo ese sueño el año pasado.

Mi madre es mi ultima conexión al catolicismo. Se que al morir ella y usted mi conexión terminará. Pida mucho por mi estos últimos días que le quedan de vida. Siempre he querido hablar con la verdad. Llevo muchos años, desde que tenía 9 años buscando la verdad. A esa edad commence a leer la Biblia.

I repeated my message about worshipping God alone and following Jesus and not worship Mary as Mediatrix.

El culto a maría

También, no siga promoviendo tanto a María. La gente terminará por seguirla a ella y no a Jesús, especialmente las mujeres.Jesús fue el que murió por nuestros pecados. María no murió por nuestros pecados. Ella no es co-mediatrix entre Dios y los hombres

...Yavé es el único

Yavé, el cual es Dios por los siglos de los siglos, es el creador de este planeta: la tierra. El primer mandamiento dice: Yo soy Yavé, no tendrás otros dioses. Segundo: mandamiento: no te harás imágen.Tercer mandamiento: no tomes el nombre de Yavé en vano

So my release from the Pope is coming soon. If h had listened to what I said, I probably still would be a Catholic.

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-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), August 13, 2004.

What do you think, Rod,

This is from VOA News today, August 16, 2004

Belgian Cardinal: Pope's Health Seriously Weakened VOA News 16 Aug 2004, 15:20 UTC Pope John Paul II A Belgian cardinal says Pope John Paul's health is seriously weakened and the pontiff may have been making his farewells during his just concluded visit to the French shrine of Lourdes. Cardinal Godfried Danneels told Belgian newspapers the pope's comments can be taken both ways - as his farewell to the shrine or maybe to his life.

The 84-year-old pope, who suffers from Parkinson's disease and severe arthritis, visibly struggled as he delivered his sermon at Sunday's open-air Mass. At one point, he said, "help me" in his native Polish. He drank some water, then said "I have to finish" and completed reading his entire homily in French. ......

Remember our dreams about people letting him die ?

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PS: By the way, Rod, no one after the Pope in the line I saw has died yet.

Last person was Julia Child on Friday. She was before him.

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), August 16, 2004.

Nothing will surprise me.

I pray that the Pope doesn't have to suffer more than he has already suffered.

Our dreams do involved an immediate landing of the Pope's plane.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), August 16, 2004.

Do you suspect he may die in his sleep?

In my dream in January this year, when I e-mailed about the Pope being in a wheel of fortune (Ferris Wheel), and I said, don't give the Pope too much emotional stress, I saw him smile, lift his eyes toward Heaven, and die with a smile on his face.

In the dream on July 4, I see him dimished in stature. He is dreasssed in traditional attire for a Pope. I saw a light, like ahalo around him.but this light was already diminishing. It is like when is about time to replace a light bulb.

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-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), August 16, 2004.

I haven't had any dreams about the Pope since the last ones I told you about. So, any light I could shed would be simple guessing. Even my dreams may be even simpler. I do have a vivid image of him sitting on the green tarmac awaiting medical assistance while a cardinal (in white vestments including the pope's headdress.) looks over him without any appearance of panic or anxiety.

Who knows what that really means, if it means anything at all.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), August 16, 2004.

We might be seeing the Pope's last days now.

In recent weeks, the pope's frailty has been more evident. During the Oct. 6 audience, Pope John Paul addressed the faithful about marriage, referring to the second half of Psalm 45, but he spoke only six sentences of the prepared text.

Tasken from Catholic News service Oct. 6, 2004.

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0405489.htm

This comes from Response to Can faith stop death? ¿puede la fe para la muerte? thread.

After the Pope at number 15, the following people were on line before President Bush. All of them have died. #16-Maria antonieta Pons(movies)

#17-Gloria Branigan (singer)

#18-Larry McCormick (newscaster channel 5)

#19-"Johnny Ramone" (musician)

#20-"Iggie"Wolfington (actor)

#21-Janet Leigh (Actress)

#22- Rodney Dangerfield (comedian, actor)

After them comes President Bush Jr. at #23.

But the Pope must die before him.

The Pope was supposed to have gone to Mexico on Suday/Monday October 10/11 to Mexico for the Eucharistic congress October 10-17 at Guadalajara. That could have made it into trip #7 (outside Italy).

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-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), October 06, 2004.

Hademus PapaM

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), October 07, 2004.

From this link Pope's 26 anniversary states that many times for the last 10 years the Pope has defied predictions about his death.Critics and Papal replacements have died or turned 80.

here is also some speculation as to whom might replace him. Since September 11, 2001 and the war in Iraq, a key requisite in the papal job profile is the ability to reach out to the Muslim world.

Other candidates mentioned recently include Claudio Hummes of Brazil, Dionigi Tettamanzi of Italy, Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga of Honduras and Christoph Schoenborn of Austria.

Of these, I say Dionigi Tettamanzi. Cardinal Sodano lost a chance last year. The other powerful conservative German cardinal also. < This is what I wrote at EZ board Christian Forum The Christian Yahwist Sophomore Member Posts: 46 (10/14/04 4:48 pm) Reply The Pope's last days

It is possible that this time, three days from today and before April 22, 2005, the Pope will die. He has a 99% chance now. This Saturday, October 16 he will celebrate his 26 year as Pope for the Roman catholic Church.

He must die first before President Bush gets shot.

I had a dream on Thursaday about the Pope.

I am it seems the last person standing, since the others are dead ....

(Pope dies between this Sunday October 17 and April 23, 2005)

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-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), October 16, 2004.

Is there any reason you can offer as to why anyone should take your dreams seriously? I have dreams of my own and I don't take those seriously, so why should I be interested in the subject matter of someone else's dreams?

-- Paul M. (PaulCyp@cox.net), October 16, 2004.

Q. Do those who make use of spells and charms, or who believe in dreams, in mediums, spiritists, fortune-tellers, and the like, sin against the first Commandment?

A. Those who make use of spells and charms, or who believe in dreams, in mediums, spiritists, fortunetellers and the like, sin against the first Commandment, because they attribute to creatures perfections which belong to God alone.

Simple, no?

j@k.e), October 19, 2004.

What about that verse that tells of young men having visions and old men having dreams?

What about the apparitions of Mary?

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 19, 2004.

Have a look at dreams in the Bible: Click Here.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 19, 2004.

have a read of these:

http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=63

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05154a.htm

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), October 19, 2004.

Act 2:17

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 19, 2004.

no one, relying on his own skill, shall,--in matters of faith, and of morals pertaining to the edification of Christian doctrine, -- wresting the sacred Scripture to his own senses, presume to interpret the said sacred Scripture contrary to that sense which holy mother Church,--whose it is to judge of the true sense and interpretation of the holy Scriptures,--hath held and doth hold; or even contrary to the unanimous consent of the Fathers; even though such interpretations were never (intended) to be at any time published. Contraveners shall be made known by their Ordinaries, and be punished with the penalties by law established.

Council of Trent

-- jake (j@k.e), October 19, 2004.

Whew! I'm glad I didn't interpret anything.

That's it folks. Break it up, there's nothing to see here. Go back to your daily lives.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo. com), October 19, 2004.

Sweet dreams are made of this... travel the World and the 7 seas....

You and I know Rod that Christianity and Judaism were born from people who dreams. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph,..Moses, Aaron, Miriam,Samuel,...John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter, Paul, Abgarus,....

Our religion is just a dream. But many people cannot accept this.

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-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), October 20, 2004.

Our religion is just a dream

Speak for yourself.

-- jake (j@k.e), October 20, 2004.

So God (or Jesus) has spoken to you directly, Jake? That is, in person.

If they have, then your religion is not about dreams. Otherwise you don't know what you are talking about.

Why, because Abraham, Moses, ...Samuel,Isaiah,Jeremiah,...Jesus claimed they talked to God. Jesus said that he did whatever God wanted him to do.

Other than Moses and Jesus , I don't remember anyone else ever talking to Yahweh face to face.

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-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), October 20, 2004.

Could this the next Pope for the catholic Church?

Cardinal Soldano and Cardinal Ratzinger at one time had a chance in 2002.

Picture of

http://www.chiesadimilano.it/or4/or?uid=ADMIesy.main.index&oid=79619

Tettamanzi, Dionigio

could be the next Pope. http://www.fiu.edu/~mirandas/bios-t.htm#Tettamanzi Tettamanzi at the Vatican

By July or August we might have a new Pope to replace John Paul II.

Most likely an Italian.

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-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), March 05, 2005.