For people like me, from The Way, the Church of Yahweh in Christ Jesus,

Christian Yahwism is more than a defined set of beliefs. It is a movement of ideas encompassing all forms of Christian living in Yahweh our God.

Christian Yahwism cares for

-love of worship of Yahweh

-Yahweh’s continous work with his creation

-The salvation of all humans even when they have sinned

-for the individual

-the disenfranchised

-the environment

-people’s cultures

-education

-justice

-the unborn

-all of God Yahweh’s creatures

The Christian Yahwist

The Man of Yahweh

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), July 23, 2004

Answers

love of worship of Yahweh

Unlike Catholics who worship Mary, the Saints, and Jesus when they need him, or Protestants who also worship Jesus,

The Christian Yahwist worships the true God of the universe: Yahweh. Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: Yahweh our God [is] the only Yahweh

The Christian Yahwist worships God Yahweh because he/she realizes Yahweh loved him/her too enough to give him a free-will mind, and the body to sense everything Yahweh has created. We were created good in God Yahweh's image.

Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.

Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good.

Unlike an orthodox Jew, who prays he wasn't born a woman, the Christian Yahwist praises Yahweh for being the sex one was born into. Gen 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. When a Christ Yahwist wakes up, he thanks Yahweh for allowing him to live one more day on this Earth. He thanks him for sending Jesus to show people the way to salvation. He thanks Yahweh for the food, for things received. At night, he prays to Yahweh for mercy. For we don't know if we will wake up the next morning.

(incidentally, The father of the Christian Yahwist died of a heart attack at 5:15 in the morning. He never woke up.)

Exd 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Yahweh, whose name [is] Jealous, [is] a jealous God:

Deu 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, [even] all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the Yahweh thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

Deu 8:19 And it shall be, if thou do at all forget the Yahweh thy God, and walk after other gods, and serve them, and worship them, I testify against you this day that ye shall surely perish.

The Christian Yahwist The man of Yahweh

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), July 23, 2004.

Yahweh’s continous work with his creation

Unlike Jews who believe Yahweh stopped his prophecies by 400 BCE (BC), Protestants during the times of Paul, Muslims after the death of Muhammad, and Catholics who think only God appears to them as Jesus to corroborate their own dogmas,

Christian Yahwists believe yahweh continues to send prophets , prophecies, dreams,... to his people. Yahweh hasn't abandoned us.

Num 16:28 And Moses said, Hereby ye shall know that the LORD hath sent me to do all these works; for [I have] not [done them] of mine own mind.

Psa 33:4 For the word of the LORD [is] right; and all his works [are done] in truth.

Psa 40:5 Many, O LORD my God, [are] thy wonderful works [which] thou hast done, and thy thoughts [which are] to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto thee: [if] I would declare and speak [of them], they are more than can be numbered.

The Christian Yahwist

The Man of Yahweh

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), July 23, 2004.

The salvation of all humans even when they have sinned

Eze 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

That is why Yahweh sent Jesus, to save us from our transgressions

Isa 53:12 Therefore will I divide him [a portion] with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. sions. Jesus said in Nazareth

Luk 4:18 The Spirit of Yahweh [is] upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

Because what what our God yahweh wants is that we show mercy the way he does with us.

Mat 12:7 But if ye had known what [this] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless. Mat 10:42 And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold [water] only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Mat 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

Mat 25:36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Mat 25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink?

Mat 25:38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]?

Mat 25:39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

Mat 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me. Yahweh cares even for the most insignificant human

Mat 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Mat 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?

Mat 18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that [sheep], than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.

Yahweh doesn't want anyone to perish.

Mat 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

That is why Christian Yahwists will no burn to ashes,torture,mutilate, jail indefinetely, blow up, .... those whose beliefs they disagree with.

Roman Catholics did it in the past. Pope John Paul II has apologized. So did Calvin and his followers. So did Luther and his followers. So did Henry VIII and his daughters Mary and Elizabeth in the Church of England. So have done the Orthodox Catholics during the days of the Eastern Emperors and the czars. So do now the Muslims from Al quaida, the Afgani taliban, Hezbollah, the Martyrs Brigade,....

They do it under God's name. Yet, God Yahweh has not commanded it.

But the Christian Yahwists first ask Yahweh for guidance. They don't rush to judgment.

May yahweh our God always protects in difficult times. May he be merciful for our many sins. Thus prays the Christian Yahwist.

The Cjhristian Yahwist

The Man of Yahweh

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), July 23, 2004.

The disenfranchised

Yahweh cares for everyone. Even those who society rejects:the poor,debtors, the guilty by association, orphans, widows, slaves, foreigners, lepers,prostitutes,....

Deu 24:12 And if the man [be] poor, thou shalt not sleep with his pledge:

Deu 24:13 In any case thou shalt deliver him the pledge again when the sun goeth down, that he may sleep in his own raiment, and bless thee: and it shall be righteousness unto thee before the LORD thy God.

Deu 24:14 Thou shalt not oppress an hired servant [that is] poor and needy, [whether he be] of thy brethren, or of thy strangers that [are] in thy land within thy gates:

Deu 24:15 At his day thou shalt give [him] his hire, neither shall the sun go down upon it; for he [is] poor, and setteth his heart upon it: lest he cry against thee unto the LORD, and it be sin unto thee.

Deu 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

Deu 24:17 Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, [nor] of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge:

Deu 24:18 But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing

Deu 24:19 When thou cuttest down thine harvest in thy field, and hast forgot a sheaf in the field, thou shalt not go again to fetch it: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hands.

Deu 24:20 When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

Deu 24:21 When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean [it] afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

God Yahweh doesn't despise riches, or rich people. He enriched Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David,... It is what rich people do with them:

Jam 5:1 Go to now, [ye] rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon [you].

Jam 5:2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

Jam 5:3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

Jam 5:4 Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of Yahweh sabaoth.

Yahweh called Abraham his friend.

Jam 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

Jam 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

God even listens to prostitutes.

Jam 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent [them] out another way?

Jam 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

That is why the Christian Yahwist prays:

Yahweh be merciful to me. make me an instrument of your salvation. Let me be merciful, compassionate toothers.Protect me from evil and help me to guide others in the truth. Don't make my feet run to do evil, but to do good. Amen.

The Christian Yahwist

The Man of Yahwhe

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), July 23, 2004.

Dave same for this one.

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), July 25, 2004.

Does this sect accept Jesus as Eternal Truth?

God is Eternal. Truth is Eternal. God's Word is Truth. God's Word is Eternal. Jesus is Truth. Jesus is Eternal. Jesus is God's Word. God's Word has always been. Jesus has always been.

-- Max Darity (arrowtouch@yahoo.com), July 30, 2004.

...but, not necessarily what St. Peter or St. James has to write...eh, Max?

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), July 30, 2004.

Rod

at least he accepts St John's Gospel. he's just paraphrased a key part of that.

Elpidio is more clever about his business. he does not accept certain Scripture (see above), but is never so bold as to say so. that's the politician! El Presidente del Mexico del futuro! Que viva Gongalez!!!

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), July 30, 2004.

Max, Jesus more like eternal mediator.

Many of us existed already in God Yahweh's mind, even before we existed on the flesh.

Jean Dixon most likely dreamed me on February 5,1962. That was the day my parents conceived me. She was a catholic psychic famous in the 1960s and 1970s.

My last Son, Isaiah, was revealed to me in a dream on September 2002. My wife dreamed him 4 times. First in 1999. Later in 2000.Even with that name in 2002. My mom dreamed him in 2001. My brother in 2003. My sister the same day he was born in 2004. She called me to ask if my child had been born already.

Does that make my son like a Jesus type?

I dreamed my oldest daughter at age 8, 2 1/2 years before she was born.

So we exist in God's mind. I don't know if I can use the word Heaven. He has never said that to me. So I cannot say what I don't know.

The Christian Yahwist

The Man of Yahweh

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), July 30, 2004.

Rod, I think Max is thinking of a clever answer about james and Peter not being true to the faith. I will give you an answer on Monday as to why I think they do belong on the Peter and James threads you started. I let Max think about it.

Ian sometimes surprises me. I think he thinks he has figured me out already when it comes to scripture. I think you know me better on that by now.

What I think about the authors of the Books of the Bible I have published one book at a time: John at the Catholic and here. Matthew, Samuel, Genesis-Deuteronomy here also. There is more to come.

The Christian Yahwist

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), July 30, 2004.

Hi Ian

"El Presidente ... Gonzalez"? hee...hee.. but, Elpidio? are you at least smiling?

Hi Elpidio

Maybe we should all get together with a shot of El Presidente, but only one shot and no more. Ok....maybe just a tall glass of limonada and some pan dulce, instead. We can talk over that theology, Elpidio and Ian.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), July 30, 2004.

Elpidio,

i figured you out a little while ago. Zarove actually supplied the last piece of the jigsaw.

don't worry though. i will leave you to your own devices -- generally soeaking that is. your own petard beckons. its just a matter of time.

i am, btw, sorry to hear that you have had to endure surgery, and i simply hope that you will experience a very speedy recovery.

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), July 31, 2004.

Ian,

What did you figure out?

-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), July 31, 2004.

Yes, Ian, I am wondering the same thing. What did you figure out? Did I miss something? Where and how did Zarove "suppl[y] the last piece of the jigsaw"?

-- Emily ("jesusfollower7@yahoo.com), August 01, 2004.

David - i figured out Elpidio.

Emily - you probably missed nothing.

in all of this, please bear in mind that i was responding to a direct statment of Elpidio and, furthermore, that Elpidio is by far the most radical regular poster here; but he rarely appears to be so. the penny has dropped with me. its a real anti-climax, i am afraid and not one worth spending too much time on.

i will leave this subject with one word only:

"Pyramids".

therein lies the truth of it all. this is what i have realised.

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), August 01, 2004.

Oh---so thats it!

-- Jim (furst@flash.net), August 01, 2004.

I may be the most radical Christian here, Ian...

All kinds of Christian posters...

There are Calvinist, pentecostals, Churches of Christ, Lutherans, Baptists,AME.... from the Protestant side....

and Catholics (who follow the Pope), Catholics still in search of the truth, and Traditional(Latin) Catholics,...

Oneness Pentecostals...

but not the most radical.

Some posters here are Atheists, Muslims, Anarchists,...

But God Yahweh loves us all.

That is something Ian your mind still cannot comprehend....

This is not about Elpidio Gonzalez.... this is beyond me. One day I will die like all do.

Yet, God Yahweh will contine to always send those he feels will bring them closer to himself. Just like he sent Abraham, Joseph, Moses, Samuel,Nathan, Elijah, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Huldah (a woman) ,Zechariah, John the Baptist, Jesus, Paul,....on the Judeo Christian side, he sent Budha,...Muhammad,...Bahaullah,....

I am not unique.... There will always be others bringing people closer to our God Yahweh.

If you figure this out, then you got me figured, otherwise, you are just another one on a long list that have tried and failed.

Christian Yahwism is another way of getting us closer to our God Yahweh in the things we do daily. It is not like saying we work to our salvation, but understanding that God yahweh loves us, we treat other people well. We live loving even those who hate us. Because then our God Yahweh when things go bad in our lives, then will also show us mercy. He will protect us from those who wish us harm.

Not only people but animals, plants, ecosystems,...

You as a Catholic should understand that better than Protestants.

The Christian Yahwist

The Man of Yahweh

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), August 12, 2004.

I wish to say hello to some fellow Yahwist. I was searching the web for Yahwists in Mexico. I have been using Yahweh's name since it was revealed to me in 1965. I am currently amember of the Church of God 7th day. I also use the name of his only son Yahshua who is the messiah. If I understand your question, I will tell you there is no such thing as Christian Yahwist. You are either a Christian who follows the mainstream of christianity or you are a follower of yahweh who has said "my peoople will know my name "and if in the last days those who call upon the name of Yahweh shall be saved. That is all for now , Ilove anyone who calls upon Yawheh , for you did not discover his name accidently he reveals it to his people.

may Yahweh bless you all from your friend, "Charley" aka Carlos el mismo

-- Charles James Self (cjself@cox.net), December 04, 2004.

This comment--Elpidio:

Yet, God Yahweh will contine to always send those he feels will bring them closer to himself. Just like he sent Abraham, Joseph, Moses, Samuel,Nathan, Elijah, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Huldah (a woman) ,Zechariah, John the Baptist, Jesus, Paul,....on the Judeo Christian side, he sent Budha,...Muhammad,...Bahaullah,....

This comment is quite perplexing given the fact that Muhammad and Baha'u'lah..have entirely different messages from the God of the Bible and Buddha isn't even in the same ballpark. How could the one and only true God send so many conflicting prophets with so many contradicting ideas?

-- (faith01@myway.com), December 04, 2004.

How could the one and only true God send so many conflicting prophets with so many contradicting ideas? - Faith

Very good point Faith. Truth can't contradict itself.

-- Andy S ("ask3332004@yahoo.com"), December 05, 2004.

You call it contradiction, faith, I call it one's interprtation given the situation.

Abraham did not have to deal with laws of purity. He was prophet, patriarch, and priest. Yet, he did not have to worry about laws of purity or circumcision. At one time he even worshipped other Gods.

Moses dealt with purity as an Egyptian. When he combined the monotheim of Yahweh of his father-in-law , his visions of Yahweh, and his Egyptian upbringing, he created Israelite Yahwism. This was a religion marked by purity laws, circumcision,laws for dealing with others, and so on.

Jesus, on the contrary, did not dwell on laws, like Moses, or purity (purification),...but on love of one's neighbor. Jesus life was changed by his work among the city peopled by Greeks and Romans next to the town of Nazareth. He learned co-existence. This is something you still have to work on. You still bash Spanish Speakers.

That is why Jesus knew some Greek, besides Aramaic and Hebrew.

Budha was sent to a people who worhipped many Gods: India. Hinduism was so part of the culture that Budha had to borrow some of their beliefs and practices. Hinduism had castes, Budha abolished them.He made every member to wear the same clothes.

Muhammad was sent to pagan tribes. They still worshipped a rock calle d the Kabba. So Muhammad still incuded the Kabba in the worship.

Baha'Ullah grew in a Muslim World. Islam kills those who deviate from Islam. Islam preaches 4 wives for each man. Baha'Ullah didn't. He believed in the equality of men and women. So Baha'Ullah reformed Islam. In order to attract followers from other religions, he made Budha, Jesus, and Muhammad as part of his belief system.

Not me.

I do it because Yahweh has done it. He cares about people's salvation.

He cannot wait for the christian to arrive with Jesus. He sent Budha to the Hinduists 500 years before Christ. Even christ did not reach the pagans of the Arabian Peninsula. Muhammad did.

So Yahweh has used people like Abraham, Moses,John the Baptist,Budha, Jesus, Paul of Tarsus,...Baha'Ullah,...in his salvation plan.

The Christian Yahwist

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), December 06, 2004.

Welcome, Charles James. It is good to know other Yahwists like yourself. We are the fastest growing group in the World besides Pentecostals.

You said that you found out about God Yahweh's name since it was revealed to me in 1965. I am currently amember of the Church of God 7th day. I also use the name of his only son Yahshua who is the messiah. "

How did you know about God Yahweh's name? Is there a link to the 7th day Church of God, Charles?

You also tell me thatIf I understand your question, I will tell you there is no such thing as Christian Yahwist. You are either a Christian who follows the mainstream of christianity or you are a follower of yahweh who has said "my peoople will know my name "and if in the last days those who call upon the name of Yahweh shall be saved.

I actually had to use something because people at the Catholic Forum (2002-2004)were bashing me for believing in Yahweh. They claimed I wasn't a Christian because I did not believe Jesus was God Yahweh himself.

I tried to prove that one can be a Christian without believing Jesus is God Yahweh.

So the Christian Yahwist was born.

Incidentally, we , according to Acts, were first called Christians at Antioch.

Since we are Gentiles, it makes sense to use the Word Christian. But I also feel confortable using the words Messianist.

It also doesn't bother me to use Yahshua or Yeshua for Jesus at the par with Jesus.

Gracias por to conclusion. Yo soy mexicano por nacimiento. Hay mucho de cierto de que yo no conoci el nombre de Yave por accidente. so se me revelo en una vision que tuve de Yavé el 23 de julio del 2000. En esa vision en 4 partes hablé con Yavé y Jesucristo.

Ilove anyone who calls upon Yawheh , for you did not discover his name accidently he reveals it to his people.

The Christian Yahwist

The name of Yahweh

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), December 06, 2004.

Ridiculous Elpidio,

God would not send prophets with conflicting messages and different salvation plans.

God is One and His salvation is in Christ alone.

God is not the author of confusion and deception. That is the work of the devil.

Muhammad is not a prophet from the God of the Bible.

Buddhism has nothing to do with the God of the Bible at all--he is nothing more than an ancient by-product of rebellion against God.

-- (faith01@myway.com), December 06, 2004.

Faith

"God would not send prophets with conflicting messages and different salvation plans."

you MUST appreciate the **supreme** irony in this statement. Lol!!! TMSB!!!

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), December 07, 2004.

The Bible is the inerrant Word of God and has all the authority to lead us to salvation in Christ jesus.

Anyone who finds themselves *not* in Christ--has not followed God.

His Word is timeless and never changes.

Therefore, if you follow a gospel of another kind, you are not following the God of the Bible.

Not ironic--very simple actually.

-- (faith01@myway.com), December 07, 2004.

faith, what makes more sense in salvation history if you are God:

send Abraham or come yourself first. Yet Abraham came over 1600 years before Jesus Christ.

Why should Yahweh wait this long to save people? It is absurd, faith. Yahweh should have come long before Abraham, Moses,....Elijah, ...John the Baptis....Yet he didn't.

Why faith? Because Yahweh works differently than you and me. He is not constrained by time, by dogmas,...

God Yahweh is love and understanding. That is why he is so patient with us.

When we turned away from him he sends his prophets to turn us away from evil.

The Christian Yahwist

PS: Faith, the Bible is not inerrant. There are some things which are not true in there like Adam created from clay, Eve from Adam's rib....

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), December 07, 2004.