What will happen to 750 prices when the Mille arrives?greenspun.com : LUSENET : MV Agusta F4 : One Thread
Your thoughts anyone? I'm glad that the 1000cc version is coming this summer. $21k is a little much for me, but when I see it in person I may change my mind. Anyway, what do you think this will do to the standard 750cc prices?
At this point I assume they will continue to produce the 750cc version for about $19k new, or will they end production to increase the number of Mille engines they can build? The resale market for 2000-2003 bikes is what I'm talking about, however.
The prices seem all over the map now for a 2002 for example. Asking prices seem between $12k and $16k. Does anyone think a 2002 (US) 1+1 will be selling for under 10 grand by next year? I think there will be many MV 750's for sale once the 1000 actually can be purchased.
-- Steve Burns (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 07, 2004
It is a good question. It is typical that the prices plummet for a short time after new models come out, but most likely, they will go back up and stablize. I have seen one for as low as 10G's but most of the time they are in the 13-16 range. If you have one, don't worry since they will bounce back up, but if you are looking to buy one, you may want to watch in the mid fall time frame, since that is probably going to be the market low. After the holiday season passes they will probably go back to a "fair" value and pretty much stay there since they are rare in the first place. There is always a rush to have the latest toy on the market, but these bikes are amazing and "Beautiful". Like most of the Italian vehicles, it is not what is the fastest or what the "paid for" reviews rave about, but how they do it! Timeless lines always fetch a consitently higher price then the competition. You may be surprised that many owners do love the 750's and will probably not part with them, although I am sure that more will be on the market than is normal. Over the next 4-6 months you can bet that people with no knowledge of these machines will attempt to own them. I don't know if this is good or bad. I only hope that the ones that do sell end up in the appropriate hands, meaning people who will take care of these rare gems.
-- Cali-Kane (email@example.com), July 08, 2004.
The 750 is no longer in production and hasn't been since last year.
The 750 prices shouldn't realy be affected as these are mostly only available secondhand. The 1000 is just starting to trickle into dealers and these are filling the backorders already placed. So availability of the 1000 is going to be an issue for quite some time to come. There are a few 750's still in dealers but these seem to be holding firm as they are available on the spot.
When 1000's start to come up on the secondhand market I still don't see them compeeting directly with the 750 as numbers are always going to be small. In the UK market there are rarely more than 5 for sale privatly and perhaps 30 in dealers stocks, this makes it a sellers market and there realy is no reason to think this will change. My bike has probably dropped less than £500 in the last 2 years, now it's no longer available I expect that to hold fairly steady.
-- Mark M (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 08, 2004.
I'm based in the UK and I took delivery of an F4 1000 1+1 last week, and I can say without a doubt that once the 750 owners ride the new bike, they will want one straight away. The main differences are obviously the low-down power, which is vastly superior, and the suspension set-up straight from the crate is awesome. I have a couple of early gripes - the seat unit won't open properly - had to do this with a pair of pliers on the pull-cable!! I've done about 800 miles so far - no reliability issues as yet. Still running-in a the moment, so can't report on full performance, but the machine is a joy to ride so far. I reckon 750 prices will drop through the floor, once folks get a chance to ride the litre bike.
-- Rich Flanders (email@example.com), July 15, 2004.
If people 'could' ride or even buy the 1000 that easily then I would fully agree with you, but supply is unlikly to ever be that good. So as long as the 1000's only trickle into the UK then they will have little effect on 750 prices.
-- Mark M (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 15, 2004.
What did the RC 30 do when the 900rr came out? What did the 916 do when the 999 came out? What did the GS 1000 do when the gsx1100 came out? The MV will do the exact same thing relax if you own one, buy at the dip if you want one and wait to sell if you have to get out from under one.
-- Sean Crane (email@example.com), July 16, 2004.
Yo! MV Agusta will maintain it's history, pedigree and will continue to be an in-demand bike now and in the future. The prices may go down a bit once the 1000's will be out but definitely the price will slowly climb in the near future because it is already limited. It is just no other bike, but a bike with a class and lots of pedigree and history. Aside from it's good looks and sexy arse, mind you.
-- AJ Adiviso (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 18, 2004.
Although I agree totaly with your sentiments I realy don't want to compare the F4 with a GS1000, in their day (and beyond) they were great.
But could you please perhaps compare with say something like the America or Sport from MV. They got up to huge prices a few years back, then they slid back and are now creeping up again. The 750F4, as it is no longer in production, has joined the ranks of the classic MV's of yesteryear where condition is everything.
Look after your bike and it will look after you.
-- Mark M (email@example.com), July 19, 2004.
i totally agree with Mark, the 750 is still a very desirable bike and always will be regardless if the MILLE is a 1000 time better as you cannot compare them on parallel basis. of course the older the bike the less value, but that is life. it is difficult to comprehend if you du not have one. i will not be baying the Mille unless Tamburini designs a totally new baby, this thing still rock's for me!!!!. regards gianni
-- Gianni Guaglianone (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 22, 2004.