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May. 26 -
Archbishop Chaput: To receive Communion, we need to be in communion (Denver Catholic Register) Pittsburgh bishop say pro-abortion politicians should not receive Communion, but he will not deny them Communion (Diocese of Pittsburgh) Editorial: Church politics (Baltimore Sun) Op-ed: Politically correct rectitude (Indianapolis Star) Op-ed: When Church plays politics, it risks losing many voters (Detroit News)
-- Seven s (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 26, 2004
-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), May 27, 2004.
We be the One Holy and Apostolic Church when the Catholic church proclaims the fifth dogma, that she asks for.
-- Andrew (email@example.com), May 27, 2004.
Andrew, we really shouldn't de-rail Seven's thread by re-visiting the need for a fifth Marian dogma (Co-redemptrix/Mediatrix of all graces). I don't think he was proposing a new Marian dogma with his opening question. If you feel strongly this topic needs to be discussed, why don't you start a new thread for that purpose? In any event, I don't feel the introduction of such a dogma would unite the Church in the way I believe Seven would like to see or intended with his opening remark. In fact, if past discussions in this forum are any indication, it just may accomplish the opposite.
-- Ed (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 27, 2004.
Thank you Ed,
I do know that we will not come up with a fix here but I read the things in the Catholic media and it just gets to me. In my Diocese I have been to five churches for five different masses. When I say different I mean different by means of different music, prayers, and postures of both priest and laity. Then we have Priests/Bishops/Archbishops/Cardinals that publicly disagree/fight on solid church teachings that are 2000 years old. When will this mess stop? What I see dose not seem to line up with CCC 748-870.
-- Steven S (email@example.com), May 27, 2004.
When will it stop? When Christ arrives for the second time. When will he arrive? when it stops.
Its a fallen world. And there are people who see many more than 2 sides to a question. Either in the church or out. Sometimes this allows a needed broader look at things. Other times it leads to schism.
One of the good things about the Church is the ability to tolerate a large umbrella of viewpoints. To not cry heritic in a way that forces people to choose to be outside of the tight lines chalked. It can also make the church diversive/divisive.
It will not end. Get used to it. Deal with it. Sean
-- Sean Cleary (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 27, 2004.