Cardinal George, Cardinal Mahony differ on Communion for Rainbow Sash members (2 reports) http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=29799

Archbishop Chaput, Bishop Wuerl discuss Communion and pro-abortion politicians (5 perspectives)

May. 26 -

Archbishop Chaput: To receive Communion, we need to be in communion (Denver Catholic Register) Pittsburgh bishop say pro-abortion politicians should not receive Communion, but he will not deny them Communion (Diocese of Pittsburgh) Editorial: Church politics (Baltimore Sun) Op-ed: Politically correct rectitude (Indianapolis Star) Op-ed: When Church plays politics, it risks losing many voters (Detroit News)

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=29797

-- Seven s (gschneiders@hotmail.com), May 26, 2004

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Response to When are we going to be “One holy and apostolic Catholic church” again?

Bump

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), May 27, 2004.

Response to When are we going to be “One holy and apostolic Catholic church” again?

We be the One Holy and Apostolic Church when the Catholic church proclaims the fifth dogma, that she asks for.

-- Andrew (andyhbk96@hotmail.com), May 27, 2004.

Response to When are we going to be “One holy and apostolic Catholic church” again?

Andrew, we really shouldn't de-rail Seven's thread by re-visiting the need for a fifth Marian dogma (Co-redemptrix/Mediatrix of all graces). I don't think he was proposing a new Marian dogma with his opening question. If you feel strongly this topic needs to be discussed, why don't you start a new thread for that purpose? In any event, I don't feel the introduction of such a dogma would unite the Church in the way I believe Seven would like to see or intended with his opening remark. In fact, if past discussions in this forum are any indication, it just may accomplish the opposite.

-- Ed (catholic4444@yahoo.ca), May 27, 2004.

Response to When are we going to be “One holy and apostolic Catholic church” again?

Thank you Ed,

I do know that we will not come up with a fix here but I read the things in the Catholic media and it just gets to me. In my Diocese I have been to five churches for five different masses. When I say different I mean different by means of different music, prayers, and postures of both priest and laity. Then we have Priests/Bishops/Archbishops/Cardinals that publicly disagree/fight on solid church teachings that are 2000 years old. When will this mess stop? What I see dose not seem to line up with CCC 748-870.

-- Steven S (gschneiders@hotmail.com), May 27, 2004.

When will it stop? When Christ arrives for the second time. When will he arrive? when it stops.

Its a fallen world. And there are people who see many more than 2 sides to a question. Either in the church or out. Sometimes this allows a needed broader look at things. Other times it leads to schism.

One of the good things about the Church is the ability to tolerate a large umbrella of viewpoints. To not cry heritic in a way that forces people to choose to be outside of the tight lines chalked. It can also make the church diversive/divisive.

It will not end. Get used to it. Deal with it. Sean

-- Sean Cleary (seanearlyaug@hotmail.com), May 27, 2004.