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The Book of Samuel carries the name of the Prophet Samuel, yet the book narrates stories of Saul and David who were living after the death of Samuel.
Elpidio Gonzalez(egonval@yahoo.com),November 12, 2003
-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egoval@yahoo.com), May 20, 2004
I don't think it was Samuel. Would that make the book phony?-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), November 12, 2003.
I waited 3 days to see if someone knew. For the Book of samuel to be inspired scripture it must have been written by a man of God.
Here is a clue: Since Samuel was dead already, what other men of God do we find mentioned in Samuel?
-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), November 14, 2003.
Are you talking about the True Old Testament books 1 & 2 Samuel or is there some apocryphal book out there called the 'book of samuel'??
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), November 14, 2003.
(Am I in the right thread, this time?) The Bible does not say, but we can guess. I'm guessing one of the following: Samuel, Saul, David. If I must give answer--right or wrong--here goes: David.
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), November 14, 2003.
David, in Hebrew it appears as one book, not 2. It is just called samuel. They did this so the letters of the Hebrew alphabet matched the names of the books in their book (the call it the Law, the Prophets and the Writings, we call it the Old testament). See Jesus answer in Luke 24 after he rises from the dead. He doesn't use the word Bible. We Christians do. It is a Greek word. I will give you an asnwer on Monday or Tuesday.
No, Rod, it wasn't David. David had scribes. You can read that in Samuel.
-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), November 15, 2003.
My next guess would be for one of Moses' direct descendents. rod..
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), November 15, 2003.
Samuel disappears from the land of the living in Ch. 25 of I samuel. In these 25 chapters we don't find too much negativity against either Samuel or Saul. I believe Samuel is responsible at least for the first 16 Chapters. He or one of his sons recorded the information about his family. The idea of his sons being evil was a later addition to the text. The idea is why there was a Royal house now instead of a prophetic and priestly one. From Ch. 16 of I Samuel until Ch. 10 of 2 Samuel, David is seen in a good light. This in my opinion was the work of the recoders, the scribes, and the priests. People working for the government don't talk bad about the government. Instead they try to cover up.
2Sa 20:23 Now Joab [was] over all the host of Israel: and Benaiah the son of Jehoiada [was] over the Cherethites and over the Pelethites: 2Sa 20:24 And Adoram [was] over the tribute: and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud [was] recorder: 2Sa 20:25 And Sheva [was] scribe: and Zadok and Abiathar [were] the priests:
2 Samuel 12 mentions that the Prophet Nathan had to admonish David for the death of one of David's men because David had slept with that man's woman. This information had to be confidential. This section and the next ones until the end of 2 samuel come from Nathan. For Natthan, David's suffering is the result of his adultery.
So there you have it: Samuel (I Samuel 1-16) Ahilud, Sheva, Abiathar,and Zadok for David's good moments. I Samuel 16-to-2 Samuel 10. Abiathar provided the information about his family. Zadok the information about the destruction of the family of Abiathar. Nathan for 2 samuel 11-24.
-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), November 17, 2003.
Why did I pose this question Rod and David, because people assume the book somehow came from heaven. God inspires people to write.
Yet, We have to watch out for the writer's prejudices. These are not from God.
-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), November 17, 2003.
done restoring.
-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), May 20, 2004.
THe books of 1 and 2 Samuel wher originally called the books of 1 and 2 Kings. 1 and 2 Kings was then called 3 and 4 kings.We do nto kow the writers, but they are considered inspired even by the Jews.
-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), May 20, 2004.
Again< Samuel was not the original name of the book...
-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), May 20, 2004.
Zarove, the Books of the Bible have undergone many name changes.The Book of Jashar, and the Book of the wars of Yahweh were incorporated into what we now call the books of Moses: Exodus, Numbers, Levitucus,and Deuteronomy.
Deuteronmy reached its final recension when King Josiah had its cleansing period of society and religion n general around 620 BC.
The Book (I and 2 )called Samuel went through many writers and revisers.
Is it sacred? Yes. Why? Because there are dreams from Yahweh there, Zarove. Do we have to accept everything written there as inspired? No. Why? You must distinguish what is history, what is the writer's interpretation, and what is from God Yahweh only.
-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), May 20, 2004.
You must distinguish what is history, what is the writer's interpretation, and what is from God Yahweh only.These are good points Elpidio. I also think the literary style of writing is important. I don't think the Bible was meant to be a history book in the sense that we moderns think of history books with just objective facts. Likewise, I don't think this realization makes the Bible any less inspired (or true), just that it should be read with this in mind.
-- Andy S ("aszmere@erthlink.net"), May 20, 2004.
I agree with you, Andy.The Christian Yahwist
-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), May 20, 2004.