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Rod,Stop it. You do this every couple of weeks. Just stop it.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004Answers
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-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.If anything, you would have noticed I was telling Faith and Kevin, BOTH PROTESTANTS FOR YOUR INFORMATION, NOT to post about original sin.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.Oh.
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.AND I NEVER SAID CATHOLICS COULD NOT POST IN THIS FORUM, this is a LIE.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.Who has equated me with John F. Gecik? I am not worthy to walk in his tenny shoes. The man is my hero, defender of the faith. Thanks!.............
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.I took the [script codes out], sorry "ikutuvuv"
-- ikutuvuv (outoutc@l.ujbg.com), May 11, 2004..........
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004
I'm not quite sure what the premise of this thread is, but there is something intriguing about the feel of it. I feel compelled to contribute but don't know where to begin.
-- Jim Furst (furst@flash.net), May 11, 2004.
My take on David's disapproval of my posts and behavior follows:All the time I make my arguements and points logical and hard to refute, David steps in with calling my posts "off-topic" or something to that effect. Then, David will wiggle out of any accusations I bring towards him in regards to unfair play. This has been a continual cycle since the very first day I set foot in this forum, which later became his forum. David will make me sound like a whiney little temper tantrum kid. Ok, but, now he is calling me out to be another John F. Gecik. I will take that as a compliment , but not exactly an accurate description. John is a thousand times knowledgable of Catholicism....and that's just on one pinky.
David will answer with his side of the coin and refute everything I've said. But, to be honest, I did have a little tiff with the previous moderator over the illogical sense of his rules. I demonstrated the errors, but, like a grain of salt, I wasn't taken seriously. At least, David is a little salty-er, maybe a little because of my whiney little tantrums (as he calls them).
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
I see!
-- Jim Furst (furst@flash.net), May 11, 2004.
David. You're a great person. I admire your tenacity and staunchy faith. I would fight in your battles anyday, but you got to at least see where I stand and why I stand where I do. I'm just trying to keep the arrows straight and true with these forum "rules"...............................
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
Rod,John Gecik did NOT like me very much when I was posting over in the Catholic forum.
It is very difficult to keep threads on track, especially when someone makes a comment that is off the subject and the response takes the thread further and further away from the original topic.
I really don't see what the point is of trying to keep all of the threads specifically on their topics (that is why I am not the moderator) for this job is too time consuming. But if David wants to be fair, then he needs to treat everyone the same way, no matter who they are and in this I am in complete agreement with you.
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
Kevin, I agree with you.
-- Emily ("jesusfollower7@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
Ah! Kevin you bring joy to my life with your understanding of this forum's difficulties. It would be ideal if we could all stay on the topic and not deviate. But, man, we are only human.As far as JFG, yes he would get me fuming at times and it was difficult to choose my words precisely. But, he did stay true to his Catholic drive. Of course, I never liked how things turned out--the discourse and bannings. And, I can't see this type of forum ever becoming similar to the other forum. This place allows for an open discussion not restricted to one doctrine or faith system. I once got banned from a Jewish forum. All I asked was, "Is the Rodriguez name Jewish in anyway?" (or something like that). Zap! I was out of there faster than you can say, "żEn donde estan mis chanclas?"
This forum could have a number of moderators with specific duties. Time will provide the answers; Tom may have opened the door.
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
Rod,Yes, I have been sitting in the background for much of the conversations concerning the operation of this forum because 1. As my kids say, "it is not my job", and 2. I did not care to nit-pick (I am not accusing anyone of doing this) the moderator, and 3. As Elpidio correctly stated on another thread, I pick and choose which threads to participate in...
Yes, David has had a difficult time and I think is doing a good job of being moderator although I have yet to agree with the purpose of making the forum password protected.
It is no fun to have your posts deleted, I know because that is exactly what happened over in the Catholic forum. That was ok though, because I saved all of my posts so it really did not matter if they deleted them or not.
Amen and Amen to your comment, "It would be ideal if we could all stay on the topic and not deviate. But, man, we are only human."
It is so difficult to keep on topic especially when someone makes a comment that you want to respond to and then the question becomes whether or not to created a new thread, or to go and find a thread where this topic has been discussed in the past. For those of us who have little time (or don't necessarily want to make the time) this too difficult and takes too much time. As long as it takes me most of the time to respond to someone's post, and yes I realize my posts are long however this is not deliberate, I just want to be thorough in my reply. I don't feel that taking a thread off-track is necessarily a bad thing.
I am glad that David has not wielded his banning wand more often with those he does not agree with for if this were the case, I would be the first to go...
You are not the only thorn in his side. :-)
As far as having more moderators for this forum, that is for David to decide and I for one would not even entertain the idea of assuming this responsibility.
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
"I have yet to agree with the purpose of making the forum password protected" - KevinI don't think the forum with be going password protected that often anymore. I save every thread on the forum, and with a simple post they can be restored. I've found out how to get rid of those scripts posted by "tom" and "other toms". Except, there will times when it might be needed. Like that time Jeanie went on an outrage and posted more than 250 anti-Jewish threads. It took a LONG time to delete all that, and with her posting 10 new posts every minute, it was even harder (By the way, no one try contacting her. We don't want her visiting the forum anymore). Then, someone (neocon@yahoogroups.com) back in january started spamming the threads (destroying about 20% of the forum) with some LONG posts. I have no way of deleting his posts, so those threads are lost, but if I was able to password protect it while he was doing that we could have saved half the threads.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
"Yes, David has had a difficult time and I think is doing a good job of being moderator although I have yet to agree with the purpose of making the forum password protected. "-KevinI guess you haven't been around to see the mess the "mad poster" has done. Obscenities, epileptic light shows, giant texts, window browser shut downs, kidnapped/hijacked links to unwanted websites, ruined threads, and who knows what's next have we experienced since March 26, 2004 on some kind of cyclical schedule. That's the reason for the password protection. The Catholic forum made inferences about keeping secrets about Catholicism. Elpidio and I (Ian and Jim did too, I believe) made our honesty evident in support of the security measures. That's when Laurent Lug joined this forum (I knew he would...he..he..).
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
As for additional moderators, we will need a replacement on September 13th (faster if I leave sooner). I don't think you'll be able to find someone that has the time I do, but maybe 2 or 3 can be co-moderators.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
"The Catholic forum made inferences about keeping secrets about Catholicism" - rodAbout this forum? Explain.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
"I have no way of deleting his posts, so those threads are lost..."-David.But, golly gee weez, isn't it so strange that the Catholic forum was able to recover without a bat of the eye? They ignored me big time and deleted my alerts. Why? Oh Why? didn't they come to our rescue? I still smell conspiracy. I sense an inside job. I smell an angry poster who was banned and has a nicely sharpened axe and a smile.
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
Some in the Catholic forum--after the attack--made comments that this forum was password protecting itself against public view for strictly private use. Comments were made that "who knows what secrets are being told about [Catholics]" (I need to find the link). We stepped in and suggested that they (the insinuators) should email you and ask for the password so that they may see those secrets about Catholics. I did mention that this forum had Catholics fighting for the faith. It was a "put-up or shut-up" kind of deal. Laurent made it over here and saw the real truth about this forum. I'm wondering if "Andrew" was the main inquisitor. The thread will show what transpired......
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
David,Why the need for additional moderators?? And why on September 13th??? I take it that I have missed something...
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
Rod,I must have missed all of the light shows... The only one I remember is when Tom put all of those scripts in several threads, and I quickly turned off my computer and didn't come back on for several days because I certainly don't want to get a computer virus...
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
David,I have some earlier threads saved, please let me know which ones you need to have restored and I might have them... FYI, I only saved the threads that I wrote in...
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
Kevin, I listed them in this thread. (http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch- msg.tcl?msg_id=00Bq1a) Scroll down and you'll see the list. The ones striked out are restored, and the rest are damaged. See which ones you have.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
I think the Catholic forum deleted those posts I mentioned earlier.Oh, and it wasn't March 26, it was Feburary 26, 2004.
Here is a residule from the other forum:
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00B3gp
Yes. We've been hit hard with some heavy stuff at the "Ask Jesus" forum. We are currently working on restoring all of the threads that were bombed. Let's hope that this forum remains free from the vandal. Hey, the Scriptures will never get zapped.
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), February 26, 2004.
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
"...Tom put all of those scripts in several threads,..."Yes, my 15 minutes of fame came and went in a flash. I told Elpidio of the ideal situation. It came true! Tom apologized.
Uh, not that I'm a prime candidate, but I have a dial-up connection. Just in case David was momentarily inflicted with a touch of insanity and considered me as a moderator......hey, it could happen. But, like I told the first moderator (Kevin was there), I would decline. I still wouldn't ban you, David, even when the perfect chance became...well, perfect.
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
David,I only found one, The Eucharist, and I sent it to your Hotmail account. By the way, you still haven't answered my question about why the need for several moderators and why the specific date of September 13th???
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
Rod,Don't feel bad, I only have a dial up connection myself...
Glad to hear that Tom apologized...
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
David, I have this real bad habit of actually keeping secrets. When will you make your plans public?........................
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
Sorry Kevin, I missed your post. I'll be leaving for Marine boot camp on September 13th, sooner if an open spot comes up. The reason for 2 or 3 moderators would be because we probably won't be able to find someone who has the time I do. 2 or 3 people might be able to share the load better, like what they are doing in the Catholic forum. After being stationed at a base, I might be able to take over or help out too, that is if whoever the replacement(s) are during that time want that. Currently [Anonymous] is helping me out by deleting malicious posts that I cannot delete because of school.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
I haven't recieved any email yet.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
David,Good luck in Marine boot camp...
I retired from the Navy with 22 years 11 months and 20 days of service in June of 2002.
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
Thanks.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
David,It is in my sent email folder, so I know it was sent to you.
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
It's taking it's time. Needs to travel between servers then..
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
I know this is off-topic, but I hope the Spurs beat the Lakers tonight. Their last game was embarassing. Yes, I am a Spurs fan, I own a house in San Antonio.
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
Dial-up connections.Yup, I can't see paying 20 fold more dollars for texts to download a few more seconds faster. I say have everybody just type faster and read slower. (Yes, very weak humor.)
I was thinking that the moderators remain anonymous when you select them, David. That way there duties will be done without the fear of hurting feelings. They can edit or delete incognito and then return to their poster roles without a hitch or explanation.
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
Wow, I should have figured. I'm a Lakers fan.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
Kevin,Did you send it to cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com or christian_moderator@hotmail.com???
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
Boy, I'm glad you made your revelations, David.Elpidio is really Paul M. in disguise.
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
Rod,I only pay 10 more dollars for my dsl connection. accually, more like 7 or 8. I use to have compuserve, then aol, and finally got yahoo sbc dsl. Both CS and AOL charge about 22 for service, and yahoo is 30 (27 was there last offer)
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
David,I agree with Rod about the moderator duties... Please explain how you can be a Texan and yet be a Lakers fan???
Are you a traitor David???
Just kidding...I used to be a Boston Celtics fan when they had Larry Bird, Robert Parish, Kevin McHale, Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge etc... however I was a fair weather fan with this team becuase once they all left, I quit rooting for them...
No more though...I am from Texas, and I am a Cowboy fan, a Spurs fan, an Astros fan and a Stars fan... oh and I almost forgot a Texas Longhorn fan... these teams I will always be loyal to, even though I do not live in Texas any longer.
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
rod,i'm sure I mentioned my plans on another thread, you might have just missed it.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
I pay 6 or 8 bucks a month. I am cheap.Uh.....Elpidio is really Paul M.........
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
"Please explain how you can be a Texan and yet be a Lakers fan" - kevinIt's because I was born in California; my parents came down to the valley when I was around four.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
David,I sent it to this address: cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
I still haven't gotten it, try cyberpunk1986@prodigy.net
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
Our friend Luke's real name is Skywalker.......hello?....................
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
"It's because I was born in California" DavidDo you like any Texas teams???
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
Aflac........Aflac!!........
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
Rod,Those commercials are so funny...
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
Nope, I don't like any teams from Texas. All the teams I like are from Cali.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
David,I forwarded the email to: cyberpunk1986@prodigy.net as requested.
-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), May 11, 2004.
Got it.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 11, 2004.
Moses received a copy of the missing threads. He dropped them and broke them. He is wondering if you could send him another copy.................
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
Mel Brooks-(before Ceasar, doing standup comedy)"Oh, those Christians! Those Christians are so poor....they're so poor.....they only have one God!"
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
Elpidio, Paul M., and Luke, I'm just kidding around. I'm going to bed.........whew! tough crowd.
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
Rod said: I think the Catholic forum deleted those posts I mentioned earlier.I don't think so. The reference you posted was something entirely different. I started that topic myself due to an error on one of the threads on the Catholic board (read the post above yours - it's me). I remember that incident and nothing else was said there about the password situation in that particular case (as far as I recall).
I do vaguely remember the incident you're talking about, but I searched for awhile to no avail to find it.
-- Emily ("jesusfollower7@yahoo.com), May 12, 2004.
P.S. This forum went on password after I made that post and after the attacks. I think you were right that it was around that time, but it wasn't on that thread. I know it was after I made the post because I did not have the password for this forum at the time, so I was only stopping by to read when it was public.
-- Emily ("jesusfollower7@yahoo.com), May 12, 2004.
I remember posting in two threads: the one I've linked to above and another thread. I can't find the other thread. Elpidio and I both posted in that second thread in defense of this forum. Perhaps Elpidio may have saved that thread?.......................
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 12, 2004.
Jim, Elpidio, and I were on "watch" the night of the attacks. Elpidio was searching and saving threads while I was making failed attempts to signal the moderators of the "mad poster's" doings. Suddenly, my posts were being deleted as some threads were being restored in the Catholic forum, this forum still hasn't recovered from the Feb. 26, attack. Were are still scratching our heads and raising our eyebrows.................
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 12, 2004.
Rod, talk about viruses.My school has been hit hard since December.
That is why I cannot even post for many days.
As for co-moderators, David Ortiz,
I nominate: -Rod -faith -Luke
Then Christian Yahwist
-- WElpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), May 13, 2004.
Your school, too?I'm constantly 'refreshing' pages and waiting too long for pages to load. I've gotten several '503' errors, too. Yes, there are viruses out there and here.
I would vote for Gail, Jim, and Faith for the moderator gig. Luke is good. I was also thinking about giving the job to someone with excellent technical skills and talents. I was thinking that "Tom" should also be nominated. JUST KIDDING, FOLKS!
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 13, 2004.
Rod is out of the picture now that he has proclaimed himself Catholic.
-- (@@@.@), May 13, 2004.
Explain what you mean, "out of what picture"?...........
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 13, 2004.
You have it wrong. Does the Catholic Church proclaim Rod "Catholic"?
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 13, 2004.
excellent nominations Rod: Gail, Jim, Faith.
-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), May 13, 2004.
I'm not sure about their HTML skills, but it's easy to learn with time.We'll have to see what David decides. I'm sure that David has considered me, but not for moderator assignments.
Do you think there are K.P. duties around here?
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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 13, 2004.
New thread for the New Moderator Selection........
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 13, 2004.
Rodrigo, Bill Macken, Natasha, James Peech, Paddy, and Anotella are banned from participating in this forum in the future. These people are all one and the same and the individual has been posting under various names in the same thread to promote his/her arguments. Moderator-- Ed (catholic4444@yahoo.ca), May 21, 2004.
Rod, did you get banned from the Catholic forum??
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 22, 2004.
That's news to me, David. Where is that thread?...............
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 22, 2004.
I'm generally ignored over there. Ed still hasn't answered me about his funky rules dealing with iliteracy (ee-lee-ter-uh-see)............................
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 22, 2004.
In the "Rules of the Forum" thread at the Catholic forum.
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 22, 2004.
I found it. Things are cleared up. It was "Rodrigo Sanchez" who was banned. Not me. My time has not arrived..............
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 22, 2004.
Rod,I don't get your post about the IP. I thought you lived in the valley?
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 23, 2004.
I have a trip every year to Illinois. I don't want you banning me when you see my Illinois IP address thinking somebody is impersonating me from a far off land. I will email you before you start seeing the IP change...............................
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 23, 2004.
How long are you gone?
-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), May 23, 2004.
2 long agonizing weeks of pure misery and hay!...................
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), May 23, 2004.