The Two Ordinances

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Baptism and the Lord's Supper - Many people out there claim that one must be baptized to be saved (this is not the thread to discuss this) but that has got me wondering....What about the Lord's Supper? "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you." (John 6:53).

Why doesn't the Lord's Supper save?

-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), April 26, 2004

Answers

And the reason I say Ordinances, is because they do not save.

-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), December 13, 2003.


So someone who had his first spank and first breath of air less than two decades ago declares that the 2000 year old Sacred Sacraments of Baptism and Most Holy Eucharist do not save plus he renamed them as "ordinances."

SACRED TRUTH :

THE ROCK ~

THE MAGISTERIUM OF THE 2000 YEAR OLD MOST HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH SAYS :

THE SACRAMENTS OF SALVATION

Celebrated worthily in faith, the sacraments confer the grace that they signify. They are efficacious because in them Christ himself is at work: it is he who baptizes, he who acts in his sacraments in order to communicate the grace that each sacrament signifies. The Father always hears the prayer of his Son's Church which, in the epiclesis of each sacrament, expresses her faith in the power of the Spirit. As fire transforms into itself everything it touches, so the Holy Spirit transforms into the divine life whatever is subjected to his power.

This is the meaning of the Church's affirmation that the sacraments act ex opere operato (literally: "by the very fact of the action's being performed"), i.e., by virtue of the saving work of Christ, accomplished once for all. It follows that "the sacrament is not wrought by the righteousness of either the celebrant or the recipient, but by the power of God." From the moment that a sacrament is celebrated in accordance with the intention of the Church, the power of Christ and his Spirit acts in and through it, independently of the personal holiness of the minister. Nevertheless, the fruits of the sacraments also depend on the disposition of the one who receives them.

The Church affirms that for believers the sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for salvation. "Sacramental grace" is the grace of the Holy Spirit, given by Christ and proper to each sacrament. The Spirit heals and transforms those who receive him by conforming them to the Son of God. The fruit of the sacramental life is that the Spirit of adoption makes the faithful partakers in the divine nature (2 Pet 1:4) by uniting them in a living union with the only Son, the Savior.

-- James (elgreco1541@hotmail.com), December 13, 2003.




fixed..

-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), April 26, 2004.

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