April 8, 2004 -- ALBANY - The same-sex marriage controversy took a new and dramatic turn yesterday as one of the state Legislature's few openly gay members proposed abolishing marriage altogether in New York.

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-- Bill Nelson (bnelson45-nospam@hotmail.com), April 08, 2004

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-- Bill Nelson (bnelson45-nospam@hotmail.com), April 08, 2004.

Once we make marirage an unimportant institutin that changes in a whim, we see no value in it. why no abolish it. who needs mroals? This of course leads to destuction, btu fewe seem to care.

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), April 08, 2004.

i have come to a new conclusion:

the state senator is right. No more state marraiges... period. Only a church can carry out sacramental marraige before God anyway. Now, you cant ban marraige all together (violation of the right to freedom of religion), but i think anyone conjoined by the state should just be considered to be in civil union.

-- paul h (dontSendMeMail@notAnAddress.com), April 08, 2004.

In fact, anyone married by the state IS merely in a civil union, as shown by the fact that the state claims the power to completely dissolve the contract by civil decree. Which is why it is ludicrous to speak of state-sanctioned "marriage" for heterosexual couples and state-sanctioned "unions" for homosexual couples. It's the same thing, and is merely a form of doubletalk allowing civil marriage for homosexual couples.

-- Paul M. (PaulCyp@cox.net), April 08, 2004.

Well, what about people who divorce to get healthcare (paid for by the state) for a seriously ill child or spouse? And what about couples who marry in a church but don't want to notify the state so they can still get their own social security payments?

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), April 08, 2004.

One reason the "state" is involved is for benefits--health, legal, tax, etc. Universal healthcare? Inheritance and custody issues? Tax deductions for dependents? Maybe if some of these had been addressed before we wouldn't be in this situation now.

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), April 08, 2004.