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Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ
This is a Great grace that you can recieve from Mary and its explanation in full.
The Blessed Virgin Mary grants seven graces to the souls who honor her daily by saying seven Hail Mary's and meditating on her tears and dolors. The devotion was passed on by St. Bridget.
HERE ARE THE SEVEN GRACES.
1. I will grant peace to their families. 2 They will be enlighted about the divine mysteries. 3. I will console them in their pains and I will accompany them in their work. 4. I will give them as much as they ask for as long as it does not oppose the the adorable will of my divine Son or the sanctifaction of their souls. 5. I will defend them in their spiritual battles with the infernal enemy and Iwill protect them at every instant of hteir lives. 6. I will visibly help them at the moment of their death , they will see the face of their Mother. 7. I have obtained (This Grace) from my divine Son, that those who propagate this devotion to my tears and dolors, will be taken directly from this earthly life to eternal happiness since all their sins will be forgiven and my Son and I will be their eternal consolation and Joy.
1. The prophecy of Simeon. (St. Luke II, 34,35) - (prophecy that Jesus will be Crucified) 2. The flight into Egypt. (St. Mathew II, 13-14) 3. The loss of Child Jesus in the temple.(St Luke II, 43-45) 4. The meeting of Jesus and Mary on the Way of the Cross. 5. The Crucifixion. 6. The taking down of the Body of Jesus from the Cross. 7. The burial of Jesus.
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-- E.H.Weiss (email@example.com), March 08, 1999
Response to Something for all Brothers and sisters in ChristThanks so much, E.H.! Would you PLEASE say some Hail Mary's for me? :>)
In Jesus' boundless love, who loved His mother so much He wanted us to learn from her example, Chris
-- chris B -- March 08, 1999.
Response to Something for all Brothers and sisters in ChristI think your own holy bible says not to pray repetitive prayers.... hmmm.. I'm looking for the exact verse now - don't worry about it...
-- Russ (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 08, 1999.
Response to Something for all Brothers and sisters in Christthank you!!!
-- juan (email@example.com), March 09, 1999.
Response to Something for all Brothers and sisters in ChristYet more evidence that the rcc is a false church,Asking mary to grant grace now are we,she can give grace about as much as the next dead person,she can't do anything,she had to go through the same thing as you and i will go through.No doubt she is in heaven,but she can't grant you anything,only God can extend grace.
-- kenneth (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 10, 1999.
Response to Something for all Brothers and sisters in ChristMARY IS DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She sleeps in the earth , she knows nothing. She is no different than the other Mary who was a whore. Satan is still doing the same thing today as he did in the garden of eden. Telling you that you "shall surely not die".........eternal death.
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Response to Something for all Brothers and sisters in ChristKenneth wrote:****Yet more evidence that the rcc is a false church,Asking mary to grant grace now are we,she can give grace about as much as the next dead person. . .No doubt she is in heaven,but she can't grant you anything,only God can extend grace.*****
Kenneth is quite right. Only God can grant grace. Never in all history has one drop of grace originated in Mary, because God is the cause. Having said that, sometimes we do refer to things as coming from a person, when they in fact came from God. For example Jesus says that the APOSTLES (and others) shall drive out devils. But do they? Is it not rather God's power that drives out devils? In Acts, Peter heals people. But does he? Is it not rather God who heals people? Similarly, Mary grants graces through her prayers, but it is not she who is the real cause, but God Himself. He always grants Mary's prayers. There is plenty in the Bible to support Marian devotion, but it never teaches that Mary's prayers are always answered, as I readily grant. I do not believe in sola scriptura, at all, and I say that proudly. I believe in the Bible, with Sacred Tradition, as interpreted by the very same Church my Lord Jesus Christ established. The Church comes to a deeper and deeper understanding of the faith over time. From the earliest days, Christians have believed that the saints can pray for us. Many miracles have occurred by their intercession. I have had them help me on several occasions. They have appeared in my mind's eye with great clarity. Mother Teresa did so shortly after her death. These were not *visions* exactly, like I saw someone with me in the room, but very clear pictures that appeared in my mind, together with a feeling of holiness. Mary's presence has always been strongest. The first time I asked Mary to pray for me (when I was filled with doubts) IMMEDIATELY I felt like my soul was smiling. It was like the kindest, gentlest, sweetest feeling you can think of. It was sudden, unplanned, and filled me with love. I was startled by it.
In Jesus' great love, who made sure that a woman has a glorious role in the universe, because it is very good that ladies have a great role in all creation, Chris
-- chris B -- March 12, 1999.
Response to Something for all Brothers and sisters in Christ"Mary is Dead!!!!"???? This from a man who claims to be a Christian? Didja forget about the resurrection, buddy? How about that "great cloud of witnesses"?
-- David Palm (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 19, 1999.Why go to Mary? Why not go to the one who died for you and is waiting for you to commune with Him. He is the one who died, was buried and rose from the dead, not mary.
-- Yolie Duarte (email@example.com), November 29, 1999.By any chance, are you a mother? At this site, we have been over and over this already, not just with Mary, but with the saints too. We ask Mary or a saint to intercede on our behalf to God. If you feel more at home going directly to God, then do so. However, there is nothing wrong with going through the closest people to God either. Enough said. Ellen
-- Ellen K. Hornby (firstname.lastname@example.org), November 30, 1999.There is a difference between prayerful repetition of prayer and as the Bible say "Vain repetition" of prayers.
Br. Rich S.F.O.
-- Br. Rich S.FO. (email@example.com), November 30, 1999.Helen, I am a mother and as a mother I know that one day my kids will grow up and lead their own life. I can not save my children, I could only point them toward the truth, and the truth is that "THERE IS ONLY ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN AND THAT IS JESUS CHRIST!"
-- Patti Marcellais (firstname.lastname@example.org), April 08, 2002.Do you know, Dear, that nowhere in the Hly Bible did God speak in the upper-case, caps lock voice? You are in sin, for locking the Caps.
Mary is not a Mediator, she is Jesus Christ's own holy mother. She is not dead, but living in theglory of heaven, with Almighty God, His angels and His saints. She intercedes in her prayers for us. If we care to ask her. She is a voice on our behalf; when she speaks to Jesus her Son.
To that other ignorant critic of the True Faith, kenneth bulldog, let's just say:
No Catholic receives grace except from Christ. But He can channel His many gifts in any way He chooses. He answered a petition from His mother in a wedding feast at Cana of Galilee; documented in scripture. His first public miracle was in answer to Mary's intercession for the wedding couple. But Mary provided no grace; she merely made a request for it; Jesus was the GIVER of the grace.
Oh, and kenneth--
''Yet more evidence that the rcc is a false church,'' you say? If you have some evidence, put up or shut up. The evidence you claim here is no good. What other ''evidence'' did you discover, over at ''the meetin' house'' --???
-- eugene c. chavez (email@example.com), April 08, 2002.That was stupid of me. Kenneth's post is a year old. The chance of him seeing my words is very slim. But, Patti M. might see; and it could answer her other doubts.
-- eugene c. chavez (firstname.lastname@example.org), April 08, 2002.My dear Mr. Chavez, Why would I want to go to Mary to intercede for me when I can go directly to the Father's throne and ask Him for whatever it is I need in prayer? Being a child of God gives me that privilege. Have you ever knelt in prayer and didn't know what to say? (Of course a catholic will say the same thing every time) It is in this time that Jesus takes your words and forms them into just the right words and brings them to the Father. Why would I want to go to Mary when I could go directly to God Himself? And for the sake of arguments, I have no doubts in my walk with Jesus, but you my dear boy, should!
-- Patti Marcellais (email@example.com), April 09, 2002.Patti,
Once again your words are in bold.
"Why would I want to go to Mary to intercede for me when I can go directly to the Father's throne and ask Him for whatever it is I need in prayer?"
Are you arguing that is sinful to ask for other Christians (including those who have left this world) to pray for us? To further your argument, do you think living Christians should ask other Christians to pray for them, or does this contradict the primacy of God?
My understanding is that all Christians (Catholic and Protestant) know that it is healthy and Biblical to ask others to pray for us. Would you agree?
"Being a child of God gives me that privilege. Have you ever knelt in prayer and didn't know what to say? (Of course a catholic will say the same thing every time)"
Patti, are you faulting Catholics for having prayers like the "Our Father" and the Creeds? I think that you are gravely mistaken if you believe that Catholics simply repeat prayer and do not frequently pray outside the "bounds" of existing prayers.
To help you understand this, prayer is valid when it is done with sincerity, whether using a memorized pray or simply "talking" to God. Protestants tend to fault Catholics who "repeat" prayer, as Catholics believed that quantity is more important than quality.
Before throwing stones like the Pharisees, Protestants might want to turn toward their own practices. Protestants look to songs during worship services as a form of prayer. Just about every song of praise contains a repeated chorus. I have no doubt that many Protestants sing/pray with little concern for the lyrics, even though they sincerely look at song as a form of worship. In the same literal sense, the Protestants who sing without sincerely meaning each verse go against Jesus' own teaching in Matthew 6:7 -
(RSV) "And in praying do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do; for they think that they will be heard for their many words."
(KJV) "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."
All Christians are called to be sincere when they pray in any form to God.
"It is in this time that Jesus takes your words and forms them into just the right words and brings them to the Father. Why would I want to go to Mary when I could go directly to God Himself? And for the sake of arguments, I have no doubts in my walk with Jesus, but you my dear boy, should!"
Matthew 7:4,5 -
"Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. "
We should all approach our faith with humility. You are in my prayers. Please pray for me.
-- (MattElFeo@netscape.net), April 09, 2002.Correction:
Protestants tend to fault Catholics who "repeat" prayer, as if Catholics believed that quantity is more important than quality.
-- (MattElFeo@netscape.net), April 09, 2002.No, Patti; I never have a doubt that God will always hear my prayer. I pray always to Him, mostly for the forgiveness of my sins. He also receives thanks every day from me and all good Catholics for His blessings; and most of all for giving us His Son Jesus for our salvation.
Did you think Catholics don't pray to God?
Every day, in private and in communion with the Church, our prayers go up to God the Father Almighty, through Our Lord Jesus. The Holy Mass we celebrate is offered up as a sacrifice of thanksgiving to the Father, through Jesus Christ. Certainly we can and do pray alone, in private. But we pray as well in union with all the saints on earth and in heaven.
One of them is the Virgin Mother of Our Lord. Her prayer is offered to Jesus in our behalf. --Much in the same way that your own good mother has prayed for you and her other children. God hears the prayer of a mother, Patti. We ask Mary to pray for us in the Holy Presence of her Son Jesus. Why?
Not because we haven't the ability to pray directly to Him. We have it, and we DO.
We ask Mary on account of the biblical facts! She loved Him from the moment of His birth in a stable of Bethlehem. She loved Him as a little boy growing up in Nazareth at her side. She loved Him when He went among sinners to give them the Good News of salvation.
She loved Him at the foot of the holy Cross; shedding tears in great sorrow for Him. She loved Him when His holy body was brought down from that Cross, into her arms; and she loved Him as only His mother could love Him.
Now; when her prayer reaches His ear in His Glory, Jesus' most Sacred Heart remembers each moment of this abiding love which she gave Him throughout her holy life.
I just figure, He may turn down a sinner's prayer. Because of our unworthiness. But if His mother were to pray for me?
If I ask Mary to give Him my love, and grant me the petition she leaves at His feet; well. I hope He might give it to me. Just because His mother was the messenger. Catholics are just hoping, is all. We love Mary-- Jesus loves Mary. And she gives us reason to hope.
Not only Catholics. You are also welcome, Patti-- to turn to Mary for help some day. When a true need arises in your life. She'll be happy to pray for you.
-- eugene c. chavez (firstname.lastname@example.org), April 09, 2002.Patti
The Holy Mother is also a great teacher too. She has helped me many times to know her son better in praying along with her in the Scriptural Rosary. She prays along with me and shows me the right path of the life of her son and I get to hear his words as we walk along. She has shown me how to petition her son forhelp when it it most needed. I along with her have spent hours praising her son as she praised him from the first day he was conceived. Her love for her son is a radiant love and she has helped me to be like her, worshiping him as she does with a love that is beyond measure. As my spiritual mother she has given me her eyes of love towards her son. I do NOT pray to Mary, I pray with her and with the Saints and they help me in offering my prayers to her son. Remember they also made many sacrifices for us too so that we can still pray to her Son and the Father and the Holy Spirit, one GOD forever. Did your mother show you off when you were a child to everyone? Yes she did and Mary has done that very thing for two thousand years now.
Lord. Have mercy on me, for I have sinned. AMEN
-- Fred Bishop (email@example.com), April 09, 2002.
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-- Bumper (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 15, 2004.
Good bump, whoever you are. There's a book people can read called Revelations of St. Bridget. You pick up this book and you'll find it's hard to put down; it's short, so most people might finish it in one read.
In that book, instantly at the birth of Jesus, Mary said these words:
"Welcome, my God, and my Lord, and my Son."
He couldn't have been greeted in a more profound way, imho. Certainly much better than the way He left this world. Of course, He never really left, when you think about it; I think He is still waiting for us to repeat Mary's words to Him.
-- Emerald (email@example.com), January 15, 2004.
Very beautiful, Emerald,
In accounts of her visions Anne Catherine Emmerich witnessed the entrance of a departed soul into eternity. This was of course, his/her personal judgment before Our Holy Lord and Judge, Jesus Christ.
Emmerich ''revealed'' that standing with the soul before Our Lord are three persons acting as our advocates! We will not stand alone ! ! ! (If Emmerich was telling the truth.)
The first advocate will be our Guardian Angel, who knows us intimately. Then we'll have as well our patron saint; and greatest of them all, the Holy Virgin Mary, our mother. These three conduct a soul past countless furious devils protesting as we ascend before them. Upon a death, the devils would much prefer to spear that soul before it's too late, whether or not he/she has been judged. But because we'll have the protection of our three heavenly advocates, temporarily at least; we all come before the judment seat at last. We must pray; may the infinite mercy of Jesus Christ then forgive us all our sins! Amen.
-- eugene c. chavez (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 15, 2004.
I believe all that.
Did you notice that St. Bridget's account of the birth of Christ and Emmerich's are very much alike?
-- Emerald (email@example.com), January 15, 2004.