Why is Jesus called the Prince of peace?

-- George Robinson (r4geor@aol.com), August 12, 2003

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No God No Peace, Know God Know Peace.

-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), August 12, 2003.

When Christ was born, the Angels proclaimed "...and Peace to all men".

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), August 12, 2003.

George, tell us more on how "Real jews and real Christians are...the same as real muslims."

-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), August 12, 2003.

In the book of Luke,ch.9, v. 49 and 50, it reads(49)"And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us."(50)," And Jesus said unto him. "Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us." This scripture shows an example of Jesus working as a prince of peace wherein his disciples were looking at differrences which leads to division and strife, Jesus overlooked minor differences and maintained unity and peace. Here is where the Church is like John, as they seek to corner Jesus for themselves only, as John and some of the other disciples tried to do. Thus the Church has many divisions, because they follow after John and etc., instead of following after Jesus.For this same reason, the religion of Islam , Judaism and Christianity are divided against each other.Jesus is the prince of peace because he would unite these religions, for he claims and is apart of all of them. And he would explain wherein the religions differed but yet bring them together in unity. And it would be as Jesus told John, that if they,(the religions), are not against us , then they are for us. Contrary to what some of the proponents of the different religions believe, Jesus is the prince of peace because the more one understands who he is the more unity and peace there will be between the religions. And I must tell you that Moses,(of the Torah), Jesus,(of the Gospel) and Mohammad,(of the Koran), are already in peace and unity with one another, but like John above, the disciples of each religion seek after division, wherein there resides no peace and the very prince of peace for the three religions is arrogantly and selfishly denied.

-- George Robinson (r4geor@aol.com), August 12, 2003.

In a continuation on my discussion on the prince of peace, it should be noted that while the disciples of Jesus were with him, and before Jesus left them, Jesus had to constantly watch over them and correct them in their thoughts and actions.So as the prince of peace, Jesus had to not only confront satan and his lies but he had to confront and correct his own disciples who were often in error.When Jesus left his disciples alone, and went to the Father, don't think that his disciples did not still make mistakes in their thoughts and actions, because they did.Some of the errors in the thoughts and actions of the disciples of Jesus , was carried over into their written testimonies called the Gospels. And as I stated earlier, Jesus warned us about the possibilty of errors in the eyewitness testimony of his disciples, in the book of Isaiah, ch. 8, v. 16 and 20. Herein, Jesus shows that it is the word of prophecy that is a more sure word and that if the testimony of his disciples did not agree with this word of prophecy, then there was no light in their eyewitness testimony. No light here would mean a lack of truth and real understanding.And when we read the new testament,we often see that the disciple never had a real understanding of who Jesus was. So Jesus proclaimed in Luke ch. 10, v. 22,that,".........no man knows who the son is but the Father, and who the Father is but the Son". Again, this shows that the disciples of Jesus did not have a deep down understanding of who he was. Thus, the word of prophecy as found in the Old testament and the Koran are of a more sure word than the eyewitness testimony given by the disciples of Jesus in the new testament.This is also true of Paul, who if you read his works, you will find that he made many mistakes in his thoughts and actions, likewise, he made mistakes in his writtings as well. All the writtings of Paul, and Peter, and John ,and the rest of the disciples of Jesus, were to be measured and corrected by the sure word of prophecy. Just because someone is an eyewitness, it does not mean that they can correctly write what they think they have seen and heard.But when the word of prophecy comes out of the mouth of the prophets,the prophets have no choice in the matter, as they must write or speak, whatever God commands.

-- George Robinson (r4geor@aol.com), August 13, 2003.

George,

A real Muslim and real Christian do not worship the same God. Our God is Jesus Christ; their god is a pagan god named Allah.

-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), August 21, 2003.

Allah considered Jesus as being a lesser prophet. It is believed that Allah ascended into Heaven and preached/prayed with all of the prophets as the "leader". Jesus was "following" Allah's lead. This is a major problem if Jesus is God for the Islamic religion. Islam puts Jesus--God-- as the lesser of Allah. In this case, Islam does not recognize Jesus as God.

Allah is fallible. The Satanic Verses were believed to have been given to Allah. Later, Allah rejects them. First, he accepts them and then he rejects them, fallible Allah.

Allah (Islam) believes that the animals have souls just like people, or something to the same effect. When Allah was born, the animals of the sea prophesied his birth. A camel once came to Allah asking for his rescue from death. Yes, a touch of Dr. Doolittle as Allah can carry on a conversation with animals.

There is more stuff that I could say about Islam, but I think you all get the main idea.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), August 21, 2003.