They Turn People Away From Christ To 12 Other Things

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THEY TURN PEOPLE AWAY FROM CHRIST TO 12 OTHER THINGS.

I Peter 4:14. Christians in history who were reproached for the name of Christ, were martyred, glorifying Christ by their death. The Roman Catholic Church, who martyred these Christians for their love and faith in Christ, is referred to as:

"on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified."

The Roman Catholic Church speaks evil of Christ as follows:

1. People are turned from trusting Christ alone to save them, to trust in church sacraments and good works to save them.

2. People are turned from trusting Christ's Word, the Bible, to trust Catholic ideas and tradition as the guide to life.

3. People are turned from confessing sins directly to Christ as mediator to confessing sins to a priest as mediator.

4. People are turned from trusting Christ as the sole sufficient Saviour, to trust a wafer that is said to become Christ.

5. People are told to pray to saints, instead of praying to Christ.

6. People are pointed to statues, medals and images to protect them, instead of trusting Christ for protection.

7. People are pointed to fear purgatory at death, instead of looking to Christ lovingly welcoming them into heaven.

8. People are pointed to pray to Mary as merciful, and are turned away from praying to Christ as harsh, unwelcoming and unapproachable.

9. People are pointed to Peter as the Rock on which the church is based, and are turned away from Christ as the Rock.

10. People are pointed to Popes as pontif (bridge builder) instead of Christ as the only bridge to heaven. John 14:6.

11. People are pointed to do works of penance and contrition to regain God's favour, instead of accepting Christ's promise of forgiveness in I John 1:9.

12. People are told to believe Catholic doctrine and Papal infallibility and to reject Christ's speaking to their consciences about Rome's errors and evils.

All of this is speaking evil of Christ, His Word and His work.



-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), July 12, 2003

Answers

Response to THEY TURN PEOPLE AWAY FROM CHRIST TO 12 OTHER THINGS.

They are looking for God as hard as you are.

They are imperfect just as you are.

They are hoping for salvation just as you are.

They are trying to do God's will just as you are.

They fail in their attempts to become righteous, just as you do.

They long for the kingdom of heaven just as you do.

They pray long and hard for the love of God, just as you do.

They don't fill up newsgroups with anti-ortiz propoganda which is very unlike you.

-- The Roamer (The_Roamer69@hotmail.com), July 14, 2003.


Response to THEY TURN PEOPLE AWAY FROM CHRIST TO 12 OTHER THINGS.

"They are looking for God as hard as you are. "They are imperfect just as you are."

I never said I was perfect.

"They are hoping for salvation just as you are."

There is no need to hope, "I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life." (1 John 5:13).

"They fail in their attempts to become righteous, just as you do."

Agreed, I never said anybody was perfect.

"They pray long and hard for the love of God, just as you do."

They pray to dead people who can't hear them. Ps 146:3-4 "Do not trust in princes, in mortal man, in whom there is no salvation. His spirit departs, he returns to the earth; in that very day his thoughts perish."



-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), July 15, 2003.

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