The first time I read Jesus words at the synagogue in Nazareth in explaining Isaiah 61 >The (1) Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me, Because the LORD has anointed me To (2) bring good news to the (3) afflicted; He has sent me to (4) bind up the brokenhearted, To (5) proclaim liberty to captives And freedom to prisoners; 2 To (6) proclaim the favorable year of the LORD

I was trying to understand the words the favorable year of the Lord. This I founfd out later to be a Jubilee year. Leviticus 25 10 'You shall thus consecrate the fiftieth year and (1) proclaim [1] a release through the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a jubilee for you, and (2) each of you shall return to his own property, and each of you shall return to his family.11 'You shall have the fiftieth year as a jubilee; you shall not sow, nor reap its aftergrowth, nor gather in from its untrimmed vines.

-- Elpidio gonzalez (egonzalez@srla.org), June 03, 2003

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Jesus came preaching according to Luke 3:1 during the reign of Tiberius Caesar .This is about August 28 to August 29. Augustus died in August 14 AD. According to Josephus, 47-48 was a sabbath year. Take away 21 years and you get 27. So 27-28 was probably a jubilee year. My interpretation is that Jesus was telling his audience that he was proclaiming a true jubilee.

Working backwards. 27-49= -22 (no negatives in history). So 22 + 1 (since there is no year 0). 23 BC was also a jubilee. Add 490. You get 513 BC. Most likely here was the reconstruction of the Jerusalem temple. Add 49, gives 562.This corresponds to 2 kings 25 which says 27 (34) Now it came about in the thirty-seventh year of (35) the exile of Jehoiachin king of Judah, in the twelfth month, on the twenty-seventh day of the month, that Evil-merodach king of Babylon, in the year that he became king, (36) released Jehoiachin king of Judah from prison.

So here there is a release from a captive King taken in 599 BC after the babilonians (Chaldeans)took Jerusalem. 562-561 BC is a jubilee year.

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonzalez@srla.org), June 03, 2003.

Add 49 to 562, gives 611. 611-610 BC was a jubilee year. In 609 BC, the rightteous king Josiah died in battle. Judah became a vassal of Egypt, later Chaldea. 2 Kings 22 and 23 detail his life and even the captivity of his people. 22:22 "Therefore, behold, I will gather you to your fathers, and (23) you will be gathered to your grave in peace, and your eyes will not see all the evil which I will bring on this place."'"

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonzalez@srla.org), June 03, 2003.

Add 49 twice to 611, gives you 709. So 709-708 was a jubilee year. It was the time of the Assyrian invasion by Senacherib.

2Kings 18: Now it came about (1) in the third year of Hoshea, the son of Elah king of Israel, that (2) Hezekiah the son of Ahaz king of Judah became king. 2 He was (3) twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned twenty-nine years in Jerusalem.

(18) Now in the fourteenth year of King Hezekiah, Sennacherib king of Assyria came up against all the fortified cities of Judah and seized them.

2 Kings 19 shows again the jubilee year:

29 'Then this shall be (46) the sign for you: you will eat this year what grows of itself, in the second year what springs from the same, and in the third year sow, reap, plant vineyards, and eat their fruit.

So 711-710 BC was 1st year, 710-709 second year, and 709-708 the jubilee year.

The fall of Samaria is usually given as 721, 722,or 723 BC. Add 13 years (14th of Hezekiah) to 711 and you get 724 BC. So he began to rule in 725 BC. 15 years before (25 should be 15) he was born. His father was Ahaz.

1 In the seventeenth year of Pekah the son of Remaliah, (1) Ahaz the son of Jotham, king of Judah, became king. 2 (2) Ahaz was twenty years old when he became king, and he reigned sixteen years in Jerusalem.

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonzalez@srla.org), June 03, 2003.

The previous quote is from 2 Kings 16:1.

His father was the one given the prophecy of Emmanuel.

2Kings 16: Now it came about in the days of (1) Ahaz, the son of Jotham, the son of Uzziah, king of Judah, that (2) Rezin the king of Aram and (3) Pekah the son of Remaliah, king of Israel, went up to Jerusalem to wage war against it, but (4) could not conquer it.

Isaiah 7: 14 "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, (22) a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name [1] (23) Immanuel. 15 "He will eat (24) curds and honey at the time He knows enough to refuse evil and choose good. 16 "(25) For before the boy will know enough to refuse evil and choose good, (26) the land whose two kings you dread will be forsaken.

Ahaz bought the services of the King of Assyria. They destroyed Israel and Syria.

7 (9) So Ahaz sent messengers to (10) Tiglath-pileser king of Assyria, saying, "I am your servant and your son; come up and deliver me from the hand of the king of Aram and from the hand of the king of Israel, who are rising up against me." 2 Kings 16: 8 (11) Ahaz took the silver and gold that was found in the house of the LORD and in the treasuries of the king's house, and sent a present to the king of Assyria. 9 (12) So the king of Assyria listened to him; and the king of Assyria went up against Damascus and (13) captured it, and carried the people of it away into exile to (14) Kir, and put Rezin to death.

So the real Emmanuel prophecy ocurred around 735-740 BC. Before the child was 5 years, this would be fulfilled.

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonzalez@srla.org), June 03, 2003.

954 starts also a jubilee year. Add 10 and you get 964. The rebuilding of the temple ( 480th year, not yet 490= 49*10) See I Kings 6:1. Add 3, gives 967, start of reign of Solomon. Add 40, 1007 BC, David begins to reign. 1052 was the start of another jubilee (1052-1051). This of liberation. According to Josephus, Samuel; ruled 12 years by himself and 18 with Saul. saul's true reign is not given. It has been cut. it says 2..., most likely 12. Thus 12 + 18+12 = 42. Add 1007 = 1049. This is about the year samuel began the liberation of Israel.

1199 was also a jubilee. 1248 was the start of all jubilees. Sbtract 40. Gives 1208 BC. Israelites enter canaan. Nashon was the father of salma from Rahab ( most likely born around 1206 BC). Salma was the father of Boaz. He was probably 30, this gives 1176 BC. Boaz was older, maybe 50 when he had Obed (about 1126 BC). Obed father of Jesse around age 30. David born in 1037. Add about 60 for Jesse. This gives 1097.

Ruth 4:17 Obed. He is the father of Jesse, the father of David. 18 Now these are the generations of Perez: (15) to Perez was born Hezron, 19 and to Hezron was born Ram, and to Ram, Amminadab, 20 and to Amminadab was born Nahshon, and to Nahshon, Salmon, 21 and to Salmon was born Boaz, and to Boaz, Obed, 22 and to Obed was born Jesse, and to Jesse, David.

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonzalez@srla.org), June 03, 2003.

Moses spent about 40 years in Midian. By that time the king of Egypt had died. This was Rameses II. To 1248 add 80, gives 1328 BC, possible birth of Moses. A king who did not know Moses? King Horemheb, a general who usurped the throne. So the famous Pharaoh Akhenaten knew Joseph, the one who had the dreams of the 7 cows and 7 ears of grain. he was probably influenced by his monotheism. King Merneptah was the Pharaoh who did not want the Israelites to leave. In his 5th year he claimed he destroyed Israel. (So possibly he began to rule in 1253 BC. Most historians give dates between 1213-1236 BC for his reign.

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonzalez@srla.org), June 03, 2003.

Joseph entered Egypt at age 17 as a slave. He died at age 110. Just adding 93, time he spent in Egypt to moses birth, 1328, gives 1421 BC. According to one chronology, Thutmose IV was king then when Joseph at age 30 interpreted the dreams of the Pharaoh. See list of Egyptian pharaohs

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonzalez@srla.org), June 03, 2003.

So my final conclusions are:

A) Moses was named after Thutmose IV, the good Pharaoh who elevated Joseph in Egypt. B) The entire time the Israelites spent in Egypy was probably less than 180 years (1421 -1248), Not 400. Joseph had requested to be taken out of Egypt because God told him they would leave Egypt. So he died close to Moses birth. C) I didn't use the geneology of Moses because I feel 2 people are missing. D) The lists of Josephus, Africanus, and so forth go insane the death of Salomon. E) The Pope in 2000 celebrated not a true Jewish jubilee, but a Christian one. Actually 1987-88 AD was a jubilee year. 2036 will be the next one. 1938-39 was a jubilee year. War War II began then.

Any comments on my conclusions?

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonzalez@srla.org), June 03, 2003.

At the end of nine posts on the same day ...
"Any comments on my conclusions?"

Elpidio, the silence of four days was deafening and should be meaningful to you.

This is a CATHOLIC forum. You have said nothing about the CATHOLIC Jubilee Year of 2000 except to slough it off.
Please visit this forum only if you have something appropriate to say. Otherwise, please take your private, non-Christian religion elsewhere.
John

-- J. F. Gecik (jfgecik@hotmail.com), June 07, 2003.

I caught people off guard. Many don't even know what a jewish jubilee was. Do you think they kknew what the Catholic jubilee of the Pope in 2000 actually meant? The Pope counted by 50s. 2000/50 40 jubilees counting from year zero? Christ's birth?

That is not the way to get a jubilee. 7X7 = 49. the first year of the new 49 count is also called the 50th.

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonzalez@srla.org), June 09, 2003.

Jmj

May God forgive you, Elpidio, for flattering yourself. The sin of pride can be a mortal one.

You wrote: "I caught people off guard. Many don't even know what a jewish jubilee was. Do you think they knew what the Catholic jubilee of the Pope in 2000 actually meant?"

You are completely wrong. You are no longer Catholic -- and therefore you are unaware of what is being seen/heard by millions on EWTN TV and radio ... and unaware of what is being published in Catholic newspapers and magazine ... and unaware of what is being said in Catholic pulpits. Consequently, you rashly judged this situation. You do not know that many millions of Catholics in 1999 and 2000 learned about the pre-Christian Jewish jubilee years and the Christian jubilees (past and present) as well.

It wasn't because the were "caught ... off guard" that people were totally silent after seeing your cascade of messages. No. Some were silent, I suspect, because they want to talk to Catholics (not prideful Arians) -- and some were silent, I suspect, because your subject matter [speculating on ancient jubilee dates] is arcane, worthless, impractical, and boring to them.

I ask you again, Elpidio: Please go into "lurking" mode.
God bless you.
John

-- J. F. Gecik (jfgecik@hotmail.com), June 10, 2003.

Thanks for your concern, John G.

I wonder which is worse, sin of pride, or sin of stubborness.

King Nebuchadnezzar had the sin of pride: he had to eat grass as punishment.

The Pharaoh of Moses time had the sin of stubborness. He lost his first born.

Or maybe the sin of blindness may be worse. This is what happened to Jesus generation : their main city , Jerusalem, was destroyed and the people who survived sold as slaves. The Jews were scattered for almost 1900 years.

John 12:39For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere: 40"He has blinded their eyes and deadened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them."[8] 41Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus' glory and spoke about him. 42Yet at the same time many even among the leaders believed in him. But because of the Pharisees they would not confess their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue; 43for they loved praise from men more than praise from God.

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonzalez@srla.org), June 10, 2003.