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David Miller wrote: >> No need to cast aspersions at me and call me fleshly, >> unspiritual, natural, or immature. If you disagree >> with something, just point out where I am wrong, and >> more importantly, exactly how and why I am wrong. >> Use the Scriptures to instruct me. Try not to get >> emotional.
Phil Weingart wrote: > There are a lot of assumptions in this little rebuke. > The most serious is the one that says that what we're > supposed to do is parse the scriptures for all the > answers, and then do whatever it is we find from our > parsings. David articulates the position of the Reformers, > and in his thinking, there's no other valid view.
I don't think you understand me very well. I am strongly against Bibliolatry. When people have difficulty communicating, the Scriptures are profitable toward instructing others. You know the verses:
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. (2Ti 3:16-17)
Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. (2Ti 2:15-16)
Furthermore, contrary to your characterization of me, I accept other methods of learning and instruction. I do not limit it to the Bible. The Living Word is what we are after, not the Written Word.
Phil Weingart wrote: > David, welcome to the reformation of the Reformation. > You're meeting people who view the world differently > than you. Some of us use the scripture differently. > Some of us rely on the Holy Spirit to lead us > into the truth, and no, that passage does not say that > the Spirit is limited to using scripture to do it. > I know that's scandalous to you, I know you think that > because we use scripture in the manner I've described, > we're not really Christians.
No, Phil. That's not true. What you say is not scandalous to me; I've preached the same message many times. Nor do I think the subscribers here are not really Christians. My only point was that rather than personally attack me by calling me names, try correcting me with verbiage that pinpoints the problem. Instruct me, and the Scriptures are helpful to this process, so use them. If nobody here knows how to use the Scriptures, fine, that's your choice. I consider them helpful in these situations. I believe that is why we have the Scriptures.
Phil Weingart wrote: > I would have thought so too, at one time. I challenge > you to find anything in the apostles' teachings which > endorses your assessing the sincerity of a brother's > faith based on their bibliology.
Where have I EVER assessed the sincerity of a brother's faith based upon their bibliology? Where? Please quote the post for me. I have never questioned the sincerity of anyone's faith on this list.
It's sad that I have to address these issues. Many posts keep circling back to attacking me as a person rather than addressing the things I say. I'm just saying that it would be more profitable to use the finger of correction upon what I am saying rather than the hand of condemnation upon me for how I am saying it. Also, I'm tyring to say that the Scriptures are a great tool to use for instructing me in righteousness. I'm not insisting that everyone must use the Scriptures, or that everyone must correct me. I'm just giving guidelines for how you all might best love me. I don't respond to someone who only says, "you're in the flesh" or "you're immature" or "you are not spiritual." I respond to instruction in righteousness. If I responded to every epithet hurled at me, I would never speak the Word of God to anyone. Speaking the Word of God guarantees that people will attack with names and sometimes much more. So instruction is superior to name calling, and the Scriptures are profitable for instructing us in righteousness. That's all I was saying. What's the big deal?
Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA
-- David Miller (David@InnGlory.org), February 25, 2003