I have an opportunity to purchase a 2002 MV Augusta F4. The dealer has an 02 in silver and an 02 Senna with 300 miles on consignment. The Senna bike is 24,995 but the silver bike i can grab for 17 and change. Is the Senna bike worth the extra dosh? Or should i grab the silver one and be happy? Thanks in advance,

Rick

-- rick ritts (blackduc1@aol.com), February 01, 2003

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Hey Rick,

If the Sienna is 1000cc then spend the extra cash. It will be worth it. After all, I heard that the makers of the Agusta are going out of business. I dont know how reliable that source is though. So dont quote me. But in my opinion, I would buy the Sienna only if it is 1000cc...if not then go for the reg F4. Hope that helps.

Jason

-- Jason Reim (warwick22282@yahoo.com), February 01, 2003.

No such thing as a1000cc yet,only used by steven casaer`s endurance bike,the 02 evo should have pretty much the same engine as the senna,if you go for the senna make sure it has all the correct bits,some where coming through as virtually painted evo 2`s,go to the yahoo forum and ask there as there are about 6 owners on it

-- mike tilston (mike@tilston00.fsnet.co.uk), February 01, 2003.

Hi Rick The Senna has the full spec SPR engine. The only visual indication for this is the clock face- white with spr on it. In addition you get given the additional open senna race pipe and chip, set of sprockets and cover which includes the hand grip covers. there is extra carbon on it. I have not ridden a standard 02 so I dont know what the performance difference is but the senna does rev higher. The main benfit is a long term financial one and that is you buy a limited addition of 300 world wide indicated by a numbered plaque on the top yoke. In time this could/could not command a higher resale value. either way they are both great bikes. happy choosing. Tony

-- tony beckwith (mcbeck709@blueyonder.co.uk), February 01, 2003.

Rick, Either bike is an awesome machine as your deliberation indicates (it's a tough decision beacause they're both so beautiful). There are several differences between the Senna and the standard F4 - several of these have already been pointed out. But, the engine is different with lightened flywheel, cam profiles, close ratio gear box, etc. My recollection is there are some differences with front forks and rear shock too. I've not ridden a standard F4 (I have a Senna) but I know some who have. They say the Senna revs quite a bit quicker and has more midrange and top end power. Whether this is due to gearing, flywheel weight, or other mods - who knows. Probably all those. If I read your post correctly, it does surprise me that the Senna you mention has 24,000 miles! Whoever had it must have lived on it because this bike has only been available for about a year. If it was me making the decision, I'd certainly want a good detailed history of servicing schedule, etc. Whichever you choose will be a blast. Even the standard one is pretty uncommon on the streets (I've only seen one where I live). And both are beautiful. Good luck with your decision.

-- DaveB (gdbdj@frontiernet.net), February 01, 2003.

The Senna has 300 miles on it but is selling for $24,995 on consignment. I think the price is very close to MSRP.

With 300 miles, the bike is essentially new. However, I'd have to wonder why he sold it and hope he didn't take it up to redline just before he put the bike on consignment.

You may just want to call some other MV dealers to see if they have any new Senna's still in stock. I vaguely remember some people getting discounts on Senna last fall.

-- Allan Gibbs (Phoenix, Arizona) (Agibbs996@aol.com), February 01, 2003.

I don`t think `investment` is the right word-look what happened to the 916 Senna and the 916 Senna 2,not really that desireable now-I spoke to 3X the other day and it was them (UK importer) who said the Senna was a `shambles` with most bikes being differant specs-check it`s got all it`s carbon etc

-- mike tilston (mike@tilston00.fsnet.co.uk), February 01, 2003.

If you can afford either it's a no brainer, get the Senna.

-- Brian246 (brnrbn@bigpond.net.au), February 01, 2003.

Brian is right. If you could spring for the extra 8 grand, get the Senna. Like the Oro before it, the Senna is much more likely to hold its value, provided you don't plan to ride it much. If riding is your thing, you might be better off spending the 17 grand.

-- Frank Tavani (ftav4444@yahoo.com), February 01, 2003.

Thanks fot all the input.First off it is $24,999 dollars, not miles...

-- Rick Ritts (blackduc1@aol.com), February 02, 2003.

Thanks fot all the input.First off it is $24,999 dollars, not miles... I don't plan to ride it a lot, I like both of them for looks as well as performance. But it will be ridden, no matter which one I choose. I was just looking for feedback on the 8K difference in price. I want the Sennna but my wallet says the silver "standard". Decision will be made on Monday...I'll let you know.

-- Rick Ritts (blackduc1@aol.com), February 02, 2003.

There is a Senna for sale in Portland - Arun Sharma Direttore Generale / Aficionado Motocorsa 503.292.7488....you can see it in the store. They are treating it as it it is the only one left in the World....30k they want. So 24k for the Senna is great. I do think you would be extremely happy with the 17k version. They are both Classics.

Cheers!

-- S in S (Shelbym@palm.net), February 03, 2003.

Rick, I own a Senna,(#152)and it is an incredible machine. Earlier posts are correct, SPR spec. motor, extra RG3 exhuast, eprom, two extra sprockets, grip covers, dust cover, rear stand, bits of carbon fibre, I even kept part of the crate to hang in my garage. No regrets here. I paid msrp of $24,795, I also ordered it in Oct. of 2000 from Munroe Motors in San Francisco. Took delivery last April. I actually got mine in the first shipment of Sennas' to this country. I have 1,700 miles on it now, and you should here it scream to redline,(13,500 with eprom). It draws a crowd everywhere I take it. You only go around once, do it right.

-- greg petersen (gntpete@nvbell.net), February 06, 2003.