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Hello! I am a baptised and confirmed practising R Catholic. My boyfriend is also baptised and confirmed (RC). It is our intention to get married in a Catholic church with full ceremony. However, he did marry in a registery office and then divorced about 15 years ago. Will we be faced with hurdels? We are both concerned about this. Have heard mixed reports, that is why I am writing to you. Thank you for your time in reading this. T Pearson
-- T Pearson (sapphire260379@aol.com), January 14, 2003
I have no religious authority to answer, but I literally just asked a marriage tribunal priest that question 15 minutes ago (I had been looking at this site and am in the same predicament). If at least one person in the previous marriage was baptised (Catholic I know for sure, other religions I'm not sure) at the time of a civil wedding, the marriage must be annulled before the Catholic can remarry in the Catholic Church. There are tons of grounds for annullment, and some are considered "administrative" and only take about 2 weeks. A list of ones I found in Chicago is at www.archdiocese-chgo.org/departments/tribunal/faq.shtm. It answers almost EVERYTHING I couldn't find anywhere else.Good luck!
Lori
-- Lori Boland (loribolands@yahoo.com), January 14, 2003.
if non catholic marriages are not recognized by the church why couldn't a catholic marry a separated non catholic without any hassle from the catholic church?
-- divad nav elad (divadnavelad@netscape.net), January 18, 2003.
First Off Let me Give u some Scriptures on the Subject.
Leviticus 21:14 - A widow, or a divorced woman, or profane, or an harlot, these shall he not take: but he shall take a virgin of his own people to wife.
Leviticus 22:13 - But if the priest's daughter be a widow, or divorced, and have no child, and is returned unto her father's house, as in her youth, she shall eat of her father's meat: but there shall be no stranger eat thereof.
Numbers 30:9 - But every vow of a widow, and of her that is divorced, wherewith they have bound their souls, shall stand against her.
Deuteronomy 24:1 - When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Deuteronomy 24:3 - And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
Isaiah 50:1 - Thus saith the LORD, Where is the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors is it to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away.
Jeremiah 3:8 - And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
Matthew 5:31 - It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Matthew 5:32 - But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Matthew 19:7 - They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
Mark 10:4 - And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.
ok now for my answer, Take it or Leave it, no u don,t want to know my answer.
ok He needs to get his first marriage annulled with the (RC) Church.
They can Help out with the Annullment. Its not free believe me, But part of the cost of getting remarried.
The Church that your going to, if its a (RC) Church can help u out.
I would also recommend General Pre-Marriage Counceling from your Church if they Provide that. If not at least get some books on it at your local Christian Bookstore.
Anyway thats all for now,
Chaplain Johnpaul Christian
Johnpaul_Christian@yahoo.com
-- Chaplain Johnpaul Christian (Johnpaul_Christian@yahoo.com), March 14, 2003.
Jmj
Hello, T. Pearson.The information you received from Lori was mostly correct. You can depend on it in your case. The one thing she got wrong is the following statement:
"If at least one person in the previous marriage was baptised (Catholic I know for sure, other religions I'm not sure) at the time of a civil wedding, the marriage must be annulled before the Catholic can remarry in the Catholic Church."Actually, it does not matter whether either spouse was baptized. The Church must still determine whether the union was valid or null. In other words, the Church presumes validity in marriages of two Hindus, Jews, Moslems, atheists, etc. -- even though neither person was baptized. Also it is not good to say that the Church "annuls" marriages. The Church cannot "annul" something that actually exists. Rather, the Church declares that the apparent union was null and void from the very beginning (the "wedding" day).
Divad Nav Elad wrote: "if non catholic marriages are not recognized by the church why couldn't a catholic marry a separated non catholic without any hassle from the catholic church?"
The first thing to say is that the Catholic Church does not "hassle" anyone. Far from it. She "helps" people who are in need.
The second thing to say is that non-Catholic marriages ARE recognized by the Church (except when one of the partners is a Catholic who lacks the bishop's permission to marry in a non-Catholic ceremony).God bless you.
John
-- J. F. Gecik (jfgecik@hotmail.com), March 15, 2003.
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