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Please copy and paste this message to other people so the truth about Lies in the School Textbooks can be read by lots more people. The more people that read this the better because so many people are brainwashed. Also if enough people complain to the school about what they are being taught, then your school (like some already) will remove most of the lies from the textbooks!

Lies in the School Textbooks

*A lot of people are led to believe that the universe is 20 billion years old, and the earth is 4.6 billion years old. This is not true. A lot of observations have been made by scientists who prove the universe and earth is 6-10,000 years old.

*The earth is slowing down 1/1000 of a second each year. At that rate, 1 billion years ago the earth would have been spinning so fast that it would have flattened like a pancake because of the centrifugal force.

*As the earthís rotation is slowing down, the moon is gradually receding from earth about 2 inches a year. At that rate, 1 million years ago the moon would have been so close to the earth that it would have fallen into our planet because of the gravitational pull. Also the moon would have been so close that the tides on earth would have been much higher, and would have eroded away the continents and destroyed life.

*The sun is shrinking about 5 feet per hour. At that rate, 20 million years ago the sun would have been so big that life could not exist. Even if the sun hasnít been shrinking at that same rate, it could not have been burning all those millions of years without shrinking.

*The sunís radiation "pushes" space dust less than 1/100,000 of a centimeter in diameter out of the solar system. At that rate, all the space dust should have been blown out of the solar system if it were billions of years old as evolutionists say. However, satellites find tons of space dust in the solar system proving its age of way less than billions of years old.

*Each time a comet orbits the sun, a small part of its mass is boiled off. At the current rate comets are disintigrating from the sun, all the comets in the solar system should have fully disintegrated in about 10,000 years. However, there are still many comets orbiting the sun, proving the solar system is less than 10,000 years old.

*The gravitational fields of the sun and stars pull space dust near them. This is known as the Pointing Robertson Effect. The sun is estimated to pull in about 100,000 tons of space dust a day. If the sun is billions of years old like the evolutionists say, it should have "pulled in" all the space dust in the solar system. But the solar system is full of space dust, proving the sun is not billions of years old.

*Written records of history only go back 6-7,000 years ago, which is what the Bible teaches. Evolutionists say that humans have been around for 1 million years, but there are no written records of the events that happened. To say people have been around for 1 million years is a belief. The current population is about 6 billion people. 6 billion people could have easily been formed about 4,500 years ago, which is the time Noahís Flood ended. If people have been around 1 million years and had the same growth rate, there would have be over 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 people alive today.

*The Bible says Noahís Flood happen about 4,500 years ago. If thatís true, then the oldest living tree should be about that same age and it is. The oldest living tree is about 4,400 years old, which shows the approximate time of the end of the Flood. After the Flood it would take awhile for all the plants and trees to grow again, which explains why the oldest tree is around the same age as Noahís Flood. If the earth is 4.6 billion years old, then there should be an older tree.

*Evolutionists say stars are billions of light years away, which proves the stars are billions of years old. But if stars were billions of light years away, there would be no way to measure that distance accurately. The farthest accurate distance people can measure stars is about 20 light years, not several billion light years like the evolutionists say. Stars are measured using parallax trigonometry. By choosing two measurable observation points and making an imaginary triangle to a third point, you are able to measure the third point.

*Evolutionists say carbon dating proves the age of the earth is 4.6 billion years old. Anybody who understands how carbon-dating works will admit there are assumptions involved. Evolutionists assume the amount of carbon-14 in the atmosphere has always been constant, and its rate of decay has been constant. Neither of these assumptions is provable or reasonable.

*If the earth is only 6-10,000 years old, then when did the dinosaurs live? Itís a fact that dinosaurs have always lived with people. Dinosaurs are mentioned all through history including the Bible in Job 41, and other ancient records from different countries. There are over 250 legends of people killing dragons. The reason there are so many dragon legends is because dinosaur wasnít a word until 1847, so before that time people called dinosaurs dragons. The city of Nerluc, France, was renamed to Parasque in honor of the dragon killed there. There are dinosaur carvings in the Grand Canyon and cave paintings in Africa. Why would people carve and paint pictures of dinosaurs if dinosaurs hadnít been around for millions of years? All these paintings and carvings of dinosaurs look exactly like what scientists are now discovering from fossils. In India, back in the 1500ís, Catholic Priests found over 5,000 stone carvings of people killing dinosaurs. Evolutionists also say the Coelacanth, which is a fin-lobed fish, became extinct 65 million years ago and lived with the dinosaurs. This is not true because hundreds of Coelacanths have been caught and discovered by people, along with other dinosaurs in the past. In Glen, Rose Texas, there are fossilized human and dinosaur tracks along side one another and overlapping each other.

*Evolutionists say humans and apes are 98% similar in DNA which proves monkeys and human have a common ancestor. Similarities donít prove anything anyway. Jellyfish are 98% water and watermelons are 97% water. That doesnít prove they are ancestors. Chimpanzees and tobacco both have 48 chromosomes. That doesnít prove they are ancestors. Plus similarities could prove their is a common designer! Maybe the same God created certain things to have similarities. *If I said 6,000 years ago God created everything evolutionists would say thatís religious. But evolutionists say 20 billion years old there was a big bang that created everything and they say thatís science. Theyíre both religious, but science and history support the Bible. Also life is too complex to arrive by chance, especially from an explosion.

20 Questions for Evolutionists (these questions show how stupid the theory of evolution is)

Students should ask their teachers (who teach evolution as a fact) some of these questions and embarrass him/her in front of all the students.

1. Where has macro-evolution ever been observed? Whatís the mechanism for getting new complexity such as new vital organs? If any of the thousands of vital organs evolved, how did the organism live before getting the vital organ, because without a vital organ, the organism is dead? If a reptiles leg evolved into a birdís wing, wouldnít it become a bad leg long before it became a good wing? How could metamorphosis evolve?

2. Do you realize how complex living things are? How could organs as complicated as the eye or the ear or the brain of even a tiny bird ever come about by chance or natural processes? How could a bacterial motor evolve?

3. Where are the billions of transitional fossils that should be there if your theory is right? Billions! Not a handful of questionable transitions. Why donít we see a reasonably smooth continuum among all living creatures, or in the fossil record, or both?

4. Textbooks show an evolutionary tree, but where is its trunk and where are its branches? For example, what are the evolutionary ancestors of the insects?

5. How could the first living cell begin? Thatís a greater miracle than for a bacteria to evolve to a man. How could that first cell reproduce? Just before life appeared, did the atmosphere have oxygen or did it not have oxygen? Whichever choice you make creates a terrible problem for evolution.

6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates information. What evidence is there that information, such as that in DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000 books of coded information that are in a tiny part of each of your 100 trillion cells? If astronomers received an intelligent signal from some distant galaxy, most people would conclude that it came from an intelligent source. Why then doesnít the vast information sequence in the DNA molecule of just a bacteria also imply an intelligent source?

7. Which came first, DNA or the proteins needed by DNA, which can only be produced by DNA?

8. How could sexual reproduction evolve? How could immune systems evolve?

9. If it takes intelligence to make an arrowhead, why doesnít it take vastly more intelligence to create a human? Do you really believe that hydrogen will turn into people if you wait long enough?

10. If the solar system evolved, why do three planets spin backwards? Why do at least eight moons revolve backwards?

11. Can you name one reasonable hypothesis on how the moon got thereóany hypothesis that is consistent with all the data? Why arenít students told the scientific reasons for rejecting all the evolutionary theories for the moonís origin? What about the other 90+ moons in the solar system?

12. Where did matter come from? What about space, time, energy, and even the laws of physics?

13. How could stars evolve?

14. Are you aware of all the unreasonable assumptions and contrary evidence used by those who argue that the earth is billions of years old?

15. Why are living bacteria found inside rocks that you say are hundreds of millions of years old and in meteorites that you say are billions of years old? Clean-room techniques and great care were used to rule out contamination.

16. Did you know that most scientific dating techniques indicate that the earth, solar system, and universe are young?

17. If Noahís Flood never happened, then why do so many ancient cultures have flood legends similar to Genesis?

18. Have you heard about the mitochondrial Eve and the genetic Adam? Scientists know that the mitochondrial Eve was the common female ancestor of every living person, and she appears to have lived only about 6,000Ė7,000 years ago.

19. Careful researchers have found the following inside meteorites: living bacteria, salt crystals, limestone, water, sugars, and terrestrial-like brines. Doesnít this implicate Earth as their sourceóand a powerful launcher, "the fountains of the great deep?

20. If macro evolution is scientific, then why donít you debate Kent Hovind publicly and he will pay you $250,000 if you can prove macro evolution?

*For more evidence the earth is 6-10,000 years old, Noahís Flood, and evolution hoaxes, go to

*For more evidence dinosaurs have always lived with people, go to

*Email me if you have questions:

-- Anonymous, December 26, 2002


Hmmmmm.......I wonder if the poster is using a psuedonym or is this the real NBA young phenom for the Phoenix Suns. In any event, whether it is the real hoopster or not, he/she would benefit by becoming familiar with the work of past Templeton Prize winners as well as the purpose of the Templeton Prize. These duplicattive posts clearly demonstrate a lack of scientific understanding. QED

-- Anonymous, December 31, 2002

It saddens me that people still exist on the planet Earth that believe the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old. You might as well joint The Flat Earth Society (the society of people who still believe the world is flat! Good luck in life!

-- Anonymous, January 28, 2003


I can prove the Earth is round by simple observation. Can YOU prove it's older than 6-10,000 years?

-- Anonymous, March 08, 2003

-- Anonymous, April 15, 2003

answer to #1: sea sponges are animals with allmost no organs yet they live. Many organisms do not have the complex organs that humans have however they also survive, such an adaption of organs is called evolution and has been proven through many fossils that you seem to enjoy useing as proof for your dilluted theories. only a MORON would not believe in biological evolution after all of the important discoveries that have been made and proven.

answer to number 2:the first eyes are eyespots in such animals as planaria and have slowly over the course of millions of years adapted to see shadows than shapes than forms and slowly colors. Note that dogs cannot see colors, and that many organisms eyes have farm different ways of seeing and their evolutionary ancestors show a trail leading up to that, Have you ever researched any type o evolutionary biology or dissected any basic organisms? I'd assume not given these easily answered questions.

Answer to #3:for a simple evolutionary change ill talk about the rise of apes to man. Note the fossil records of "lucy", neanderthal man, chromagnum man, and many other found and nearly complete organisms that show a transitiional change? you have no way to refute these factsand fossils.

Answer to number 4: insects are mandibulates which spawned fromcnidarians you ignorant pompous fool. omg you are so stupid, anyways the tree starts in the sea with simple life like sponges, medusas and polyps. Than the species slowly change in actually noteale ways, bc many of those basic lifeforms are still around in the sea to monitor till today. Mayhaps you should go check them out, or graduate highschool, or maybe even go to college, or do something besides jerking it while reading the bible.

answer to number 5: Miller experiment. That's all I'm willing to say on this one. BTW since life started in water which is oxygen rich It doesnt matter how the atmospher was, until life made a leap to land millions, possibly billions, yrs later.

answer to number 6: are you saying that god is an extra terrestrail whom has made us as a science prject? BAHAHAHAHHAHA. anyways DNA can't be that tricky considering modern science has been able to manipulate it to conduct cloneing and stem cell research, and could have been taken even further if you damn catholic sons of b!tches hadn't had it stopped in the USA.

answer to number 7:DNA does not produce all of its needed protiens, in fact DNA came first and used proteins from its environment before it could start forming its own, chew on that cookie Judis.

answer to number 8:This one you can find in any sex ed class or basic biology book, I won't waste my time. Oh and btw the basic idea of soerma and egg is in every organism since cnidarians, the only evolution has been the protection and carryin of these eggs. such advances are the amniatic egg(reptiles birds), and carrying the egg with the mother(mammals)

answer to number 9:we are obviously made of more than h2 ass, in factalot of our bodies are h20 proveing you a mkoron from the start. And yes it takes mor intelligence to make a human, however our scientists can do so, if the gv't would lift cloneing prohibtions. And when they do i hope people like you grow some brains to make something even as simple as that arrowhead you mentioned.

answer to 10: I am not an rocket scientist, but i can ask you this do all things move in just one direction? no, no they don't. also i can spin things clockwise and counterclockwise, so planets and moons can do the same just on a larger scale. That one was just common sense, c'mon now you can't be THAT stupid.

answer to number 11:can you tell me how God got there? no you can't? theres a shocker! first of all science takes time.considering how few years humans have been able to actually go to space you should be awed by how much information we have, Just give NASA sometime and your foolish question will be answered and than some.

answer to number 12:these are just basic laws of the univers, they just are. the same way you JUST ARE retarded.and time space gravity and such may be distorted in other areas of theunivers, we have just formulated rules that apply to the earth which are a result from our gravitational spin, gravity to the sun, and centrifical force.

answer to number 13:moron, stars don't "evolove", they grow older. hahahah you're refering to stars as living creatures. Way to go, this one made me laugh till tears dripped from my face. You should be a stand up comic. answer to number 14:genius, there is none, except for assumption by ignorant religous fundamentalists that god and the bible are law over the univers and all powerfull, read your bible you ignorant hippy piece of shit, than you may not like you religion as much as you do now.

answer to number 15:Rocks are formed by accumulation of spce dust makeing it obviously younger than its host meteor or asteroid,and bacteria are very advers and adaptable to different environments which is why they are the most successful organisms on the planet. checkmate john paul.(actual the current pope admits to evolution and such, he just says that god put it all in motion)

answer to number 16:Yes young, on a universal scale where a billion yrs is considered a very short time. not young as in 12 like yourself.

answer to number 17:I believe their was a gr8 flood, however It did not destroy allof the world and humanity or else the current earths population would not have been achievable, nor the diversities in cultures, ethnicities, and religions. number 18:eves real name is lucy, and yes its common knowledge she exists but is far older than 600 yrs, wher'd you get that number.. o wait the same place you get alot of your BS the catholic church inorporated.

answer to number 19:so in other word you dont think bacteria or water exist other places in the universe? yet you believe in god. now thats either "fatih" or just anal retentive ignorant stupidity(prolly both).how can you ossibly think that the earth is the only place with water. and btw bacteria would enter an asteroid or metoer as soon as it penetrates the earths atmosphere which accounts for a large percentage of bacterias found if not all.

answer to number 20:because KENT just screams,"Praise the lord HOLY JESUS< THE BIBLE SAYS YOUR WRONG SO YOU ARE, BLAHLAHBLAH IM A DIRTY KKK REDNECK WHO NEEDS TO GET A LIFE. bullshit argument bullshit argument, laudy dah." that's why. the same reason I don't bdebate with most fanatical bible humpers.

Overall I don't think any of your questions would stun any biologest. Im a freshman biochemistry student and i could answer them all off the top of my head. These are simpl easily explained things. Btw you should get a formal educationa and pull your priest out of your ass before you try argueing any such points. You make Al Sharpton look intelligent, hell you make the mold that grows on trees look intelligent. please remove this piece of shit from the internet you moron. i never thought I'd find such an amassment of ignorance until I found your link. Egads your retarded, please die, RLD3

-- Anonymous, November 02, 2003

Maybe they should teach common courtesy in to Freshmen biology majors. Let's just say 'Amare' asked these questions genuinely trying to get some answers. Would you still treat the poster like they were dumb as dirt or are you just passive-aggressive? Obviously you need to take a debate class or two so you can figure out that sophmoric name calling stops helping your arguements when your, oh say, 10. I'm honestly not trying to belittle you but you should probably consider some couth before your next post. Because there comes a point where it doesn't matter if you have a masters or you can't even color inside the lines- anyone with manners and respect for themselves and others is worth more than a rude self appointed MENSA grad. Hope you do wonderfully in college and life. (but PLEASE take a xanax)

Sincerly, Zia

ps: this goes for all posters with anger problems- I wasn't picking on just Rob L. D. III.

-- Anonymous, March 07, 2004

To be honest with you Amare, many of the questions you ask about science have very good scientific answers! I am a geology major and I have studied all types of science for a long time. Science doesn't have all the answers to every little fact in life...neither does it presume to. Not to put your beliefs down I just simply want to say that you should try to read more into the questions you seek AND the answers you have come up with. Being a geologist I have worked with carbon dating many times and will tell you it is no joke...carbon dating is very accurate when dating carbon12 carbon13 and carbon14 decay! Try looking in an electron microscope; you might change your mind about universal physical laws!! Nobody ever said Einstein's 'Theory of Relativity' was perfect and his laws may be proven wrong too someday thats what science is all about!!

-- Anonymous, April 05, 2004

Robldiii and GeologyWizard (so-called), Romans 1:22 speaks of you both very clearly: "Professing themselves to be WISE, they became FOOLS." You both, among millions of others, live in an evolutionary fantasy land. Verse 21 of that chapter says people like you are "vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened." WHY? Look at verse 23 for the answer -- "And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to BIRDS, and FOURFOOTED BEASTS, and CREEPING THINGS." Sounds like evolutionary thinking to me! And don't tell me the Apostle Paul could not be alluding to that philosophy. Evolution did not come into being with good ol' "Charlies" Darwin and Lyell. They simply postulated in written form ideas which have been around since ancient times. If you will read Aristotle's On Man and the Universe, as well as other Greek, Roman, Babylonian (etc.) philosophers, you will see abundant evidence of that fact. What is the consequence of your fallacious beliefs (yes, I said "beliefs," for evolution is a religion, not factual, empirical science!)? The consequence for you, outside the saving grace of God found only in His Son Jesus Christ (which I pray you will one day realize and receive), is found in Romans 1:24 & 25 -- "Wherefore God also GAVE THEM UP to uncleanness...who CHANGED THE TRUTH OF GOD INTO A LIE, and worshipped and served the CREATURE (i.e., the natural universe) more than the CREATOR, who is blessed for ever." You ought to also read verse 20 -- "For the invisible things of him from the CREATION of the world are CLEARLY SEEN, being UNDERSTOOD by the things that are MADE, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE." In other words, unless you realize your faulty, finite human intelligence is no match for God's, and that you are a wicked sinner (as we all are) before His holy eyes, and that there is an eternal penalty to be paid for that sin in the lake of fire, but that Jesus, in His infinite love and mercy, took your place by His sacrificial shedding of blood on Calvary's cross, was buried, and rose from the dead the third day afterwards with power to give you everlasting life, and, by faith, receive Him as your PERSONAL SAVIOUR, I'm afraid that you WILL stand before God one day WITHOUT EXCUSE, and that YOUR knee WILL bow and YOUR tongue WILL confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD TO THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER! I say these things, not to chide you, but to warn you of God's truth and God's judgment. He is a God of WONDROUS LOVE, but He is also a God of AWESOME WRATH toward all who reject the sacrifice of His only begotten Son. Also, if you are going to put your arguments into printed form, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not use "ad hominem" statements, and PLEASE (for the sake of your more intelligent readers) check your spelling, grammar, punctuation, and sentence structure before hitting the "Submit" button!!! We would all be more apt to give a little more credibility to you for any intelligence you may have left after being indoctrinated under government education. "CEASE, MY SON, TO HEAR INSTRUCTION THAT CAUSETH TO ERR FROM THE WORDS OF KNOWLEDGDE" (Proverbs 19:27).

-- Anonymous, April 11, 2004

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