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Was Jesus a sinner? What do you think?
Jesus was talking to the other disciples about Judas when he said in Jn. 13:18
"I do not speak of all of you. I know the ones I have chosen; but it is that the Scripture may be fulfilled, 'HE WHO EATS MY BREAD HAS LIFTED UP HIS HEEL AGAINST ME.'
Now, it says (as underlined) that a scripture was fulfilled and Bible references correctly point to Ps. 41:9 which says just that. But for your convenience, let us back up to verses4-9 in the Psalm to see who is talking here:
Psa 41:4 As for me, I said, "O LORD, be gracious to me; Heal my soul, for I have sinned against You." Psa 41:5 My enemies speak evil against me, "When will he die, and his name perish ?" Psa 41:6 And when he comes to see me, he speaks falsehood; His heart gathers wickedness to itself; When he goes outside, he tells it. Psa 41:7 All who hate me whisper together against me; Against me they devise my hurt , saying, Psa 41:8 "A wicked thing is poured out upon him, That when he lies down, he will not rise up again." Psa 41:9 Even my close friend in whom I trusted, Who ate my bread, Has lifted up his heel against me.
As best I can tell, the speaker in the Psalm is David, who was a sinner and is talking about his own life. The NT is full of these ?fulfilled prophecies? that are not prophecies at all. None of the Psalms are prophecies of the future. Email me at firstname.lastname@example.org and I will send you a nice list of problems with the NT. Yes, I believe in the OT if that is what you are wondering! Peace!
-- Brett Winstead (email@example.com), November 01, 2002