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Some folks thought I was just being cynical, when I said that the PATRIOT ACT would soon be applied to US citizens in addition to only alieans.!

Anyway, here’s the first part of an article I just found, after being alerted by email that the US is building concentration camps for its own citizens; note the author's credentials:


Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision Wed Aug 14 20:09:38 2002

Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision Attorney general shows himself as a menace to liberty. By Jonathan Turley Jonathan Turley is a professor of constitutional law at George Washington University.

Los Angeles Times

Wednesday, 14 August, 2002

Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft's announced desire for camps for U.S. citizens he deems to be "enemy combatants" has moved him from merely being a political embarrassment to being a constitutional menace.

Ashcroft's plan, disclosed last week but little publicized, would allow him to order the indefinite incarceration of U.S. citizens and summarily strip them of their constitutional rights and access to the courts by declaring them enemy combatants.

For the rest of this article, go to

It's so long I hate to post the whole thing here.


-- Anonymous, August 21, 2002


I haven't had time to read the link but nothing that crowd in washington does would surprise me. They're a bunch of Nazis as far as I'm concerned.

One bright spot----I just heard on WPR that Senator Russ Feingold, the only one with the guts to NOT sign the pariot act, was speaking up again against it and warning people to be vigilant and vocal about protecting their rights.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2002

Hey John, aren't we LUCKY to have a guy like Russ?! Of course, some of it wasn't luck -- had to go out and vote for him. But I just feel so blessed to have someone honorable to vote for. And isn't that a sad statement?

I've heard some people would like him to run for Prez in 2004. Apparently, he isn't too interested, at least at this time. I'd like to see him run in 2008, though!

JOJ, yes, that IS very scary. I was a kid during the McCarthy years, so of course, I didn't even know what happened until years later. Still, in the history I've seen since then, I've never seen anything such as internment camps for citizens mentioned. On the other hand, the Japanese-Americans were interned for World War II, and things were quite uncomfortable for German-Americans. According to my parents, many German-American-owned businesses suffered. Many did things like change from German Beer Garden (or Restaurant) to Bavarian or Swiss Beer Garden (or Restaurant). Not sure, but it probably wasn't too bad in Wisconsin, since about 1/3 of the population was German or German extraction (including my Dad and his family, though with Bavarian, Norwegian, and Scots-Irish in the mix).

Makes me nervous all around! And I haven't even read the whole link yet -- which I will go do soon. Ashcroft gives me the heebie- jeebies. Well, ALL of them do!

-- Anonymous, August 24, 2002

Since I'm married to an "alien" the Patriot Act is plenty scary for me.

-- Anonymous, August 24, 2002

Patriot Act: Is that one of those John Somebody-or-Other novels? Or does it mean that you are required to act patriotic? Just wonderin'..

-- Anonymous, August 24, 2002

Sheepish, the Patriot act is an acronym: "Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism" believe it or not...

-- Anonymous, August 24, 2002

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