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Cops kill scumbag who kidnapped teen girls.

-- Uncle Deedah (, August 01, 2002


Uh huh. It was a doubly delightful day. On the local scene, a scumbag nabbed a teenage girl and took her to his house. She escaped. The scumbag perp turned himself in because he was afraid the cops would kill him.

-- (just, August 01, 2002.

It worked out well Unk but there was a funny that might not have been. Our newly instituted "Amber" alert system that includes freeway reader boards as well as radio & TV interupts went on its face where it counted. Radio in Bakersfield (closest to the end game) ran a 50's civil defense tape.

-- Carlos (, August 01, 2002.

I saw part of a press conference today with some of the Law Enforcement types who nailed this creep. Already the marginally critical questions were starting----"how many shots were fired?" (the implication being that it was a police murder)

I predict that there will soon be some second-guessing on how the cops handled this; ie, why wasn't he captured alive? isn't this a racist killing (ignoring the fact that one of his vics was Asian)? etc.

I will be glad if I'm wrong.


A related observation. Last night, Larry King cavalierly stated that the girls had been raped. Seems to me that King spoke out of turn. If the minors wanted to announce that, it should be done by them, not be Mr Suspenders.

-- (, August 02, 2002.

Hope I’m not nitpicking here Lars, but I don’t think either of those girls was Asian. As far as the news being reported that they were raped, I would expect those sorts of details to come out. This was an internationally reported incident and the salient facts in cases such as these are usually public domain. Besides, it just magnified the supposition that this piece of human garbage was ‘done’ with them and looking for a spot to kill and dispose.

The best comment so far came from a Kern County Sheriff’s spokesman who said; “Now we won’t have to worry about rehabilitating this son of a bitch”. His words, exactly. My sentiments, exactly.

I perceive a sea change occurring with the general public’s attitude regarding the actions of law enforcement personal when confronted with scum like Ratliff. I’ve not heard one dissenting voice about how many times this animal was capped. But then, I’m sure there are some worthless liberals yet to be heard from.

-- Fact (, August 02, 2002.

"When two deputies arrived, the man pointed a gun at them, authorities said. The deputies shot at him numerous times while he sat in the car and struck him twice in the head, Sparks said."

Lars, if he pointed a gun at them, perhaps their actions were justified?

-- Pammy (, August 02, 2002.

One of the girls was at least half Korean, altho she did not have a Korean name. Her skin was "caramel" colored (her sister's description). Her mom was visiting Korea when the kidnapping occurred.

-- (, August 02, 2002.

Seventeen shots were fired, Lars:

Victim: Girls Tried to Kill Abductor

Fri Aug 2, 9:17 PM ET

By TOM HARRIGAN, Associated Press Writer

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (AP) - Two teenage girls tried to kill their kidnapper while he slept by stabbing him and hitting him on the head with a whiskey bottle, one of the teens said in a television interview Friday.

"We got this plan we were going to try to kill him," 17-year-old Jacqueline Marris, of Lancaster, tearfully told KABC-TV. The Los Angeles station said she wanted to give the interview and her parents consented.

Jacqueline and a 16-year-old girl were abducted by Roy Dean Ratliff, 37, early Thursday from a remote lovers' lane where they were parked with their dates. Kern County Sheriff Carl Sparks said they were raped.

Deputies shot and killed Ratliff after a manhunt that led to a remote desert region more than 100 miles north of Los Angeles.

Jacqueline said the girls took Ratliff's knife from its holster in the truck. "We got enough courage because you could see his pulse" while he slept, she said.

Jacqueline said she stabbed Ratliff in the throat, and "he woke up and he was like shocked and everything" as the 16-year-old hit him in the face with the whiskey bottle.

Ratliff opened the car door and "we both kicked him out and I threw the knife at him," Jacqueline said. The kidnapper then brandished his gun and regained control of the girls, who did not know each other before the abduction.

Ratliff, who was wanted on an October 2001 rape charge and would have faced life in prison if convicted of that crime, had nothing to lose and would have killed the girls if officers had not arrived, Sparks said earlier Thursday.

"He was a two-striker. He was going to prison for the rest of his life. He had nothing to lose. He needed to get rid of those girls," Sparks said.

Ratliff was shot after pointing a gun at one of two deputies who were first to reach the scene, authorities said. The deputies fired 17 shots in all.

"Those two girls are safe and I honestly believe they were probably 10 minutes away from being killed and buried out there somewhere in that ravine," the sheriff said.

Ratliff was wanted for allegedly raping a 19-year-old relative in October. Under California's three-strikes law, he was facing life in prison if convicted.

He had spent the last 13 years in and out of prison for burglary and possessing a controlled substance and was paroled last summer.

The Associated Press, which usually does not report names of sex assault victims, stopped identifying the girls by name Friday after authorities said they had been raped. The AP resumed reporting Jacqueline's name after she came forward.

-- Pammy (, August 03, 2002.

"He was a two-striker. He was going to prison for the rest of his life. He had nothing to lose. He needed to get rid of those girls," Sparks said.

The most provocative quote in the article. So much for the deterrent value of the 'three strikes' law. It can actually give criminals a clear and unambiguous motive for escalating the seriousness of their crimes. If all your chips are already on the table, you have nothing more to lose by resorting to mass murder.

-- Little Nipper (, August 03, 2002.

Seventeen shots! This was state-sanctioned murder. This poor man needed counseling.

Typical repug mentality. Kill first, rationalize later.

-- (bwahaaha@pug.hate mongerers), August 03, 2002.

***Typical repug mentality. Kill first, rationalize later.***

Clinton never sanctioned anyone's murder.

-- (bwa@haa.haa), August 03, 2002.

No, he had Butch Reno do it for him.

-- (, August 03, 2002.

Soon to be Governor Butch Reno

-- (bwa@haa.haa), August 03, 2002.

Not likely Trollboy. Even the mentally challenged voters in Florida would be hard pressed to install that meat-eating gargoyle as their Governor.

Ah, on second thought………………..

-- What (do@you.think?), August 03, 2002.

Reno campaign worried about another Florida ballot fiasco

-- (Butch @ making her excuses.early), August 03, 2002.

Wow. The guy was stabbed in the throat, hit with a whisky bottle, and still able to take control of two girls? Was he wearing a hockey mask, by any chance? No wonder the cops had to shoot this moron 17 times. He was too stupid to die.

-- (just, August 03, 2002.

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