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The Bible often refers to the "blood avenger", v.g. Numbers 35, 19, but the other day I read that the Hebrew word for blood avenger is GOLEM an that from this idea comes the idea of redemption. In that case would Christ be our Golem?
Thanking in advance anyone answering my question.
-- Enrique Ortiz (firstname.lastname@example.org), June 04, 2002
-- Enrique Ortiz (email@example.com), June 04, 2002.
You are right about the idea of redemption. The entire OT speaks of Christ only. You can apply the same.
Peace & Blessings
-- Xavier (firstname.lastname@example.org), June 04, 2002.
From what little I know, golem is a pejorative and unholy term. I don't know if the name stems from a lesser proper name or noun.
In all cases, Christ is no Golem. He has the distinction of being eternal, and divine. We know that lambs are not eternal. However, His designation as Lamb of God is better apropos than golem, if a ritualistic term for His person is called for.
I wonder what a rabbi would say, of the role of golems? One day, if possible, when a Jewish visitor comes back here, let's ask him.
-- eugene c. chavez (email@example.com), June 04, 2002.
"Sometimes, someone who is large but intellectually slow is called a golem." Oh doh, I think Ive found my perfect name. Anyway I googled some info up on my namesake which may or may not be of any interest.
The Golem by Alden Oreck In Jewish tradition, the golem is most widely known as an artificial creature created by magic, often to serve its creator. The word "golem" appears only once in the Bible (Psalms139:16). In Hebrew, "golem" stands for "shapeless mass." The Talmud uses the word as "unformed" or "imperfect" and according to Talmudic legend, Adam is called "golem," meaning "body without a soul" (Sanhedrin 38b) for the first 12 hours of his existence. The golem appears in other places in the Talmud as well. One legend says the prophet Jeremiah made a golem However, some mystics believe the creation of a golem has symbolic meaning only, like a spiritual experience following a religious rite. The Sefer Yezirah ("Book of Creation"), often referred to as a guide to magical usage by some Western European Jews in the Middle Ages, contains instructions on how to make a golem. Several rabbis, in their commentaries on Sefer Yezirah have come up with different understandings of the directions on how to make a golem. Most versions include shaping the golem into a figure resembling a human being and using God's name to bring him to life, since God is the ultimate creator of life.. According to one story, to make a golem come alive, one would shape it out of soil, and then walk or dance around it saying combination of letters from the alphabet and the secret name of God. To "kill" the golem, its creators would walk in the opposite direction saying and making the order of the words backwards. Other sources say once the golem had been physically made one needed to write the letters aleph, mem, tav, which is emet and means "truth," on the golem's forehead and the golem would come alive. Erase the aleph and you are left with mem and tav, which is met, meaning "death." Another way to bring a golem to life was to write God's name on parchment and stick it on the golem's arm or in his mouth. One would remove it to stop the golem. Often in Ashkenazi Hasidic lore, the golem would come to life and serve his creators by doing tasks assigned to him. The most well- known story of the golem is connected to Rabbi Judah Loew ben Bezalel, the Maharal of Prague (1513-1609). It was said that he created a golem out of clay to protect the Jewish community from Blood Libel and to help out doing physical labor, since golems are very strong. Another version says it was close to Easter, in the spring of 1580 and a Jew-hating priest was trying to incite the Christians against the Jews. So the golem protected the community during the Easter season. Both versions recall the golem running amok and threatening innocent lives, so Rabbi Loew removed the Divine Name, rendering the golem lifeless. A separate account has the golem going mad and running away. Several sources attribute the story to Rabbi Elijah of Chelm, saying Rabbi Loew, one of the most outstanding Jewish scholars of the sixteenth century who wrote numerous books on Jewish law, philosophy, and morality, would have actually opposed the creation of a golem. The golem has been a popular figure in the arts in the past few centuries with both Jews and non-Jews. In the early 20th century, several plays, novels, movies, musicals and even a ballet were based on the golem. The most famous works where golems appear are Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, Karel Capek's R.U.R. (where the word "robot" comes from), Isaac Bashevis Singer's The Golem and The X-Files. There is also a character named Golem in J.R.R. Tolkien's classic series The Lord of the Rings. Today, there is even a golem museum in the Jewish Quarter of Prague. Sometimes, someone who is large but intellectually slow is called a golem. Other civilizations, such as the ancient Greeks, have similar concepts.
-- Kiwi Golem (firstname.lastname@example.org), June 05, 2002.
I am awfully sorry; if you notice in the title of this thread I wrote correctly GOEL, but somehow in my message I wrote Golem. Please, rephrase my question usinG GOEL, instead of Golem.
-- Enrique Ortiz (email@example.com), June 05, 2002.
Anyway, I see that my unfortunate mistake brought us some information about Golem. "No hay mal que por bien no venga".
-- Enrique Ortiz (firstname.lastname@example.org), June 05, 2002.
You've got me in stitches! That's a barrel of laughs, and haven't we needed them, to release tension? Thank you!
I mean of course, the excellent appropriation you make now of the name. I think it's a fine name; KG.
-- eugene c. chavez (email@example.com), June 05, 2002.
The forum has had gender confusion with "Kiwi" and "Courtnay." Maybe that problem will go away with "Kiwi Golem." :-)
All my best,
-- (MattElFeo@netscape.net), June 05, 2002.
Mr Kiwi Goilem it is then gents
-- Mr Kiwi Golem (firstname.lastname@example.org), June 05, 2002.
the spelling Golem strikes again
-- (email@example.com), June 05, 2002.
Might as well stick with the misspelling -- Goilem -- since "goi" is a Yiddish term (often disparaging) for a non-Jew (like you).
-- (+@+.+), June 06, 2002.
Friends: look what I found about GOEL:
Goel - in Hebrew the participle of the verb gaal, "to redeem." It is rendered in the Authorized Version "kinsman," Num. 5:8; Ruth 3:12; 4:1,6,8; "redeemer," Job 19:25; "avenger," Num. 35:12; Deut. 19:6, etc. The Jewish law gave the right of redeeming and repurchasing, as well as of avenging blood, to the next relative, who was accordingly called by this name. (See REDEEMER .)
-- Enrique Ortiz (firstname.lastname@example.org), June 09, 2002.