M lens on Screw Camera

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Hiya

I have a screw mount Leica( there is doubt if it is a 111f or 111c) you can see it here http://www.pbase.com/davechilvers/leica my question is. the shutter seems to work ok( see image on web site along with photos of camera taken with the 50mm 2.8 collapsible) I have an M6ttl and several lenses, can i use my 21mm 2.8 asph on the screw camera with an adapter?? and would there be any prodlems. I don`t like using the M6 with the finder on so would consider leaving it on the old camera all the time.

thanks in advance

Dave C

-- D J Chilvers (davechilvers@btinternet.com), May 13, 2002

Answers

although leica made the current 50 cron and lux and the 35 asph cron in LTM form, there is no adapter for M to LTM. i understand, however, that it is not difficult to machine a new LTM flange for an m lens -- in essence what leica did when it produced these LE LTM versions of their current lenses. stephen grimes in ri would do the work. he has a site.

-- roger michel (michel@tcn.org), May 13, 2002.

Try pushing the 21 into the hole on the III?, and see what happens. Remember, there's got to be room for an adapter in there, too, and the M lens needs to sit 1mm deeper into the III? body than the III? lenses do.

In short, nope, can't do it. :-)

-- Michael Darnton (mdarnton@hotmail.com), May 13, 2002.


In 1954 or so, Leica made the decision to have older (screw-mount) lenses adaptable to newer (M-bayonet) camera bodies. The M-bodiies are shallower than the screw-mount bodies. Thus even if you could fit an M-lens on a screw-mount body (and you can't), the lens would not focus to infinity. Luckily there are dozens of different screw-mount lenses out there.

-- Mark Sampson (MSampson45@aol.com), May 13, 2002.

Do you have trouble putting the square peg in the round hole?

-- pinhead (blieb@sheridanross.com), May 13, 2002.

There were several prototypes of the IIIG with an M mount and DAG has also put M mounts on LTM cameras.

-- John Collier (jbcollier@shaw.ca), May 13, 2002.


Maybe you can get someone to trade a SM 21/4 Super-Angulon for your ASPH...

Hey, I've got a 19/3.5 Canon SM with finder in user condition. Used to be the widest RF-coupled lens you could put on a SM camera, probably still is.

I'll trade, even up, lens + finder for lens + finder!

-- Marco Grande (aglang@hotmail.com), May 13, 2002.


There's no easy way to do this, The only way to make an M lens mount on an LTM camera is to either have the body changed to an M Mount (not cheap, I'd guess $500?) OR have the M lens changed to a screw mount. The lens conversion would be more feasible conversion, IMO, but I doubt Leica would do it (other "guys" would certainly handle it though). It also wouldn't be cheap, perhaps $3-500? But it would be easily reversible, as the lens could then use an M-LTM adapter ring to be mounted on an M body.

A MUCH cheaper and easier way would be to buy a Bessa T or R2 for the 21/2.8 Elmarit. You can pick them up for $350 / $525.

Skip

-- Skip Williams (skipwilliams@pobox.com), May 13, 2002.


leave the 21 on the M body, thatīs the easiest way.

-- r watson (al1231234@hotmail.com), May 13, 2002.

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