[The title of this thread, and the contents of it's original post (i.e. the graphic) have been altered by the moderator to more fully suit the overall significance of the subject material contained herein. -Tony Rowlett, moderator]

The Real Phil Kneen!

10 days ago I requested MSN to provide the IP numbers of several @homail.com addresses (you can do that you know).

Well, you can imagine my utter suprise when 15 minutes ago I got the reply. 4 of the addresses that had sent me particularly nasty messages were from no other than Mr Tony Rowlett!

Have you heard the saying about the ball being on the other foot?

I wonder how long before this is deleted? (I have copied it and will be re-posting every time it is deleted)

-- Phill Kneen (philkneen@manx.net), May 07, 2002

Answers

Response to Tony Rowlett and his many faces

Well, sounds unfortunate that you have probably been the victim of id theft. What are the addresses?

-- Jon Doe (anonymous@anon.com), May 07, 2002.

Response to Tony Rowlett and his many faces

eeer no, it sounds like I have been the 'victim' of Tony Rowletts dislike for Phill Kneen. I haven't posted half of the 'phil kneen' posts, but when Tony says it's 'me', then who is going to argue with him?

Tony has also been posting under different names to try and 'bait' me into saying something controversial, then using it against me.

-- Phill Kneen (philkneen@manx.net), May 07, 2002.

Response to Tony Rowlett and his many faces

Now, let me get this straight. For three months you make irrelevant postings, use foul language not suitable for children, and call people names. They have been proven to come from you IP. You have sent personal emails to a number of people on the forum, again full of foul lanquage and denigrating remarks. And now you whine because people are doing the same to you. Well boo bloody hoo. You appear Phil to be getting some of the treatment you so richly deserve. Get your mommy to wipe your tears and nose and go away.

-- Bob Todrick (bobtodrick@yahoo.com), May 07, 2002.

Response to Tony Rowlett and his many faces

I still think Phil is funny.

-- pinhead (blieb@sheridnaross.com), May 07, 2002.

Response to Tony Rowlett and his many faces

Bob, I honestly don't give a toss, and you know that don't you. The posts only came from my IP because Rowlett told you they did.

-- Phill Kneen (philkneen@manx.net), May 07, 2002.

Response to Tony Rowlett and his many faces

Someones blowing smoke here.... and it ain't Tony.

Keep in mind folks that ANYONE on dialup, is not going to have the same ip address all the time. At BEST, they might have one of 255 ip addresses, selected for them at the time of connection to their local point-of-presence provided by the ISP.

One could say for example that Mr X has used the following IP addresses xxx.yyy.zzz.123, xxx.yyy.zzz.234 (twice), xxx.yyy.zzz.213, etc but thats about all when you're on dialup.

-- Charles (cbarcellona@telocity.com), May 07, 2002.

Response to Tony Rowlett and his many faces

What makes you think I dislike you, Phil Kneen? I delete a lot of your posts, but I never said that I dislike you.

I do, of course, deny your weak and groundless allegations, and I hereby make a public claim: You, my little buddy, are a fruit cake.

Hey, take any pictures lately, Phil Kneen? How'd they turn out? What lens did you use? What new and/or interesting technique have you discovered that would be of use to our membership here? Come on, let's talk about something interesting!

-- Tony Rowlett (rowlett@mail.com), May 07, 2002.

Response to Tony Rowlett and his little friend

If only this phil could use his "funniness, energy and creativity" for a good purpose....

sigh...

-- hans siddharta (hsiddharta@cbn.net.id), May 07, 2002.

adios muchachos

-- bviz (bradviz@aol.com), May 07, 2002.

Can you say borderline personality?

-- Steven Hupp (shupp@chicagobotanic.org), May 07, 2002.

oooh! if I could invite you of my green cigarret!

-- r watson (al1231234@hotmail.com), May 07, 2002.

Philllllll:

Let me get this straight -- for three months you make irrelevant posts, trash peoples images, trash peoples ideas, use foul language, and now try to turn the tables and make it sound like it's all Tony's doing??? Sell you offal elsewhere dude... Not only are you are a supreme loser, you obviously have some un-reconciled clinical issues that likely begin with a severe Oedipal disorder! Just how, exactly, was your relationship with your mom?

-- Abba Zabba Dude (FruitsandNuts@imitating.phill.com), May 07, 2002.

I was going to say: Andai si Phil bisa menggunakan "kelucuan, energi dan daya ciptanya" untuk maksud yang baik ... waduh! but Hans Siddharta beat me to it ;-)

-- Ray Moth (ray_moth@yahoo.com), May 07, 2002.

Steven: Rule Out Antisocial Personality. Borderlines tend to be inconsistent, and to cycle. Phill is consistently annoying.

-- Bob Fleischman (RFXMAIL@prodigy.net), May 08, 2002.

Phill,

Have you heard the saying about the ball being on the other foot?

No, I haven't. Can you clue me in here?

Mike

-- Michael Kastner (kastner@zedat.fu-berlin.de), May 08, 2002.

Clinically, Phil is smply an immature boy who craves attention. He may be borderline but is certainly not psychotic. His innappropriate behavior including foul language and personal insulting e-mails to some of us is quite consistent with my diagnosis. Phil, try to grow up and get some counseling. I am sure your health insurance will pay for it. Beware though, if you do not get professional help, your emotional condition will only worsen and plague you for life. Forum members, please ignore Phil's rantings and he will go away. Like a child whose parents ignore his/her temper tantrums. Pitty...

-- Albert Knapp MD (albertknappmd@mac.com), May 08, 2002.

;-))))) HA HA HA

Has anybody noticed where the link of "The Real Phil Kneen" image points to?

TADA: http://www.alaska.net/~rowlett/images/BIGNOID.JPG

Regards,

-- Boris BRECELJ (bbrecelj@mac.com), May 08, 2002.

Boris is correct,

Right click on the image and select "properties"

It is a Rowlett image.

Just what is going on.

-- Allison Reese (a_b_reese3@hotmail.com), May 08, 2002.

Is Tony imitating Phil?

This WOULD be shameful and unacceptable.

-- Allison Reese (a_b_reese3@hotmail.com), May 08, 2002.

Er, Tony, it does appear to be your image. Uhm, this looks, well, not good. Now what about Dr. Knapps diagnosis ...

-- Dan Brown (brpatent@swbell.net), May 08, 2002.

I may be dating myself, but "Phil Kneen" is actually Mr. Mxyzptlk...

-- Mani Sitaraman (bindumani@pacific.net.sg), May 08, 2002.

This is definitely one of the stranger threads in a while...

-- Richard (rvle@yahoo.com), May 08, 2002.

I still think Phil is my pug Dog "Angel" who gets on my computer when I'm not looking. Characteristics are very similar.

-- Kristian (leicashot@hotmail.com), May 08, 2002.

So I suppose that this thread is an example of the kind that I should choose to ignore, rather than state my concern that it has nothing to do with Leica photography?

-- Steve Brantley (sbrantley@nccommerce.com), May 08, 2002.

I don't undestand what is supposed to be strange here. Most of the times Tony deletes Threads that he doesn't find relevant. since this one is personally adressed against him, he was respetful enough not to delete it right away, although it is clearly not a Leica related issue. instead he added a funny pic before the question. what are people hysteric about? instead of ignoring irrelevant threads we waist our time to criticize the moderator for being tolerent? I must admit, however, that when phyll's comments are not offensive, they tend to be funnier than that image.

-- rami (rg272@columbia.edu), May 08, 2002.

When this thread was first posted yesterday it was sans image. I think it was meant to be humour on Tony's part, and considering what an excellent job of administration he done in the past I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. As to the few who have come to Phil's defense and argued that maybe his post are actually from someone else (even Tony has been accused here), the foul languaged emails I and others have received were most definitely from Mr. Kneen. It's too bad because as Rami just stated, when Phil shows a bit of restraint he can be quite funny. But on the whole he should just grow up and try and find someplace to contribute something worthwhile. Really Phil, do you envision someday sitting on the front porch with you children telling them "yes kids, daddy used to be a jerk who was ignorant to people he didn't know and swore at them whenever they disagreed with him - aren't you proud of him". Who knows - maybe you will.

-- BobTodrick (bobtodrick@yahoo.com), May 08, 2002.

I tell you what...some of you are just bloody anoying. "Oh this is off-topic, oh this is not related"......bla bla bla.

If we always talked about Leica cameras and stuff i'd be bored and so would many of you. This sort of thing is great fun if you look at it in it's proper context. Something different to have fun with. Remember fun.....laughs....etc. Phil is getting better and is not so abusive anymore. He just fools with week minds.

For you Phil....I've now got it right.

-- Kristian (leicashot@hotmail.com), May 08, 2002.

Oh, it's my image alright!! I edited his post to include it. Consider it my contribution to this nonsense!

-- Tony Rowlett (rowlett@mail.com), May 08, 2002.

Thanks, Tony, some people here already accused you of murdering Kennedy

-- rami (rg272@columbia.edu), May 08, 2002.

It's not looking good for you is it Tony, I did say that your lies would catch up with you.

-- Phil Kneen (Philkneen@manx.net), May 08, 2002.

Oh, by the way Dr (?) Knapp, I am reporting you for unprofessional conduct and maybe slander. I know where you work.

-- Phil Kneen (Philkneen@manx.net), May 08, 2002.

Oh my God - Phil is threatening us now. Remember Philly boy, "I'm gonna run and tell the AUTHORITIES doesn't cut it". Once they saw all the crap that you've posted (which I, among others I'm sure have saved), came to light, the AUTHORITIES would be placing your sick ass in a sling.

-- Bob Todrick (bobtodrick@yahoo.com), May 08, 2002.

Oh God help me! Bobby has spoken and the world will listen. Send it ALL to the police and Manxnet and to your mummy, when they have stopped laughing give me a call.

-- Phil Kneen (philkneen@manx.net), May 08, 2002.

You just don't get it do you? I love to piss you off, I have nothing to lose by doing so, I find it amusing and you just perpetuate the game by responding, you start whole threads about me! I love it!

You know the best thing though? My friends come 'round and I show them the latest 'saga', it's like a bleedin' comedy drama! And you lot just keep it running. Imagine what I am like and you won't even be close.

-- Phil Kneen (philkneen@manx.net), May 08, 2002.

Wait, let me get this straight. You invite people over and sit around a computer and show them this 'saga'? And you're all entertained by this? Boy, you guys really know how to part

-- Steve Wiley (wiley@accesshub.net), May 08, 2002.

Wait, let me get this straight. You invite people over and sit around a computer and show them this 'saga'? And you're all entertained by this? Boy, you guys really know how to party.

-- Steve Wiley (wiley@accesshub.net), May 08, 2002.

No of course I don't invite them over to read this site you fool, they invite themselves! And yes, people do find it very entertaining, I'm actually hoping to become famous through this site, maybe even start a cult. Let's face it, of the billions of people using the internet this site must have at least 30 users, My fame is set.

Maybe Tony Rowlett could become my manager based as he is in the heart of the social world, Anchorage. (anchored down in Anchorage....who sang that? they must have lived there to come up with lyrics like that)

-- Phil the Famous (philkneen@manx.net), May 08, 2002.

Michelle Shocked......must have met Tony?

-- Philatio (philkneen@manx.net), May 08, 2002.

Phill: You now where I am so come to New York and I will be glad to have you evaluated and probably committed to a two or three week stay on one of our psychiatric units.

-- Albert Knapp MD (albertknappmd@mac.com), May 08, 2002.

Tony:

You know that I am not usually critical of your work. Still, this time is different. If you make editorial changes in someones post, you should identify it as such and not make us go to source to find it.

Tony: it is called ethics. Otherwise, we can't believe what is posted here.

Art

-- Art (AKarr90975@aol.com), May 08, 2002.

You got it.

-- Tony Rowlett (rowlett@mail.com), May 08, 2002.

Tony:

Very good. Funny, but very good. Now you need a little java to make it dance. ;<)

Art

-- Art (AKarr90975@aol.com), May 08, 2002.

You all don't get. And I surely get it by now. If you reply and contribute to threads like this, then Phill wins.

...and the WINNER is....."PHILL MEAN", celebrity Leica Forum Contributor, and Leica's next spokesperson. Salgado move over, Phil's in town and he'll sting like a butterfly and fart like a bull!!!

-- kristian (leicashot@hotmail.com), May 08, 2002.