http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-032502punish.story

"In one recent case involving a Florida rabbi convicted of using the Internet to find boys and sexually abuse them, congregant support prompted the judge to sentence him to six years in prison instead of the maximum 60 years, Schwab said. "It's outrageous."

The Jews obviously need to look at changing their doctrine to be more in line with contemporary thought. Maybe dropping the celibacy requirement...

Oh. Wait.

-- jake (jake__@msn.com), May 07, 2002

Answers

Whatever are you on about??????

-- Jean Bouchard (jeanb@cwk.imag.net), May 07, 2002.

Obviously, Jean, celibacy among Catholic priests is not the cause of child molestation. Pedophilia is just as common among Protestant and Jewish clergy as it is among Catholic clergy.

-- Christina (introibo2000@yahoo.com), May 07, 2002.

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Hail Mary, full of grace;
The Lord is with you,
Blessed are you among women,
and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God,
Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
Amen

+Mary is Jewish, in case you didn't know it [edit. Moderator].

-- eugene c. chavez (chavezec@pacbell.net), May 07, 2002.

Oops.

-- (@ .), May 08, 2002.

Jake:
Your point is well-taken. I noticed it,

However, the media coverage of them is scarce, to say the least, and there are no cries for them to adapt their religion, oust their leaders, or overthrow their traditions.

That's our Church, Jake. We have to recall Christ's parable, the wheat and the tares in the field, --''An enemy hath done this.''

I can't help thinking how the very scandal which has come into our Church is living proof of her real identification with Jesus Christ. He knew these days were coming, and He prepared us for them. If we see this happening, it's because Satan is at work in the world. Satan is more interested in killing off Catholic priests than in bothering a Rabbi or a scoutmaster. There's no profit for him, destroying the Boy Scouts or a few baptist ministers and a rabbi.

But giving Christ's Holy Church a punch below the belt; Hey-- we have to accept it, don't we? Because we're nothing if not Christ's Church! If they will treat the Master in this way; then how will the servants of the master be treated?

The world will usually be on Satan's side. The media and the anti-Catholic fringe are in the world, Jake.

-- eugene c. chavez (chavezec@pacbell.net), May 08, 2002.

Eugene - are you stating a Rabbi is less then a priest?

-- Jean Bouchard (jeanb@cwk.imag.net), May 09, 2002.

What do you mean, "less than," Jean?
Surely Gene did not mean that a rabbi is of lesser dignity as a human being. However, think about the things that a priest can do, as opposed to what a rabbi can do. Whom, then, do you think that satan would rather undermine ("kill off," Gene said)?
Obviously, the priest. [If you think otherwise, then you may not yet have fully converted from Judaism to Catholicism.]
JFG

-- (jfgecik@hotmail.com), May 09, 2002.

Jean:
Satan might pursue the rabbi, or for that matter a lay pederast just for malice against children. He tempts us all-- you and me included.

But tempting the holy priest and tempting me is not in the same league. Millions of the faithful are concerned about the priest; and that's what Satan has perpetrated, a danger to the faith.

If a rabbi falls into grave sin, his soul may be damned, and his own followers may lose faith in him. But when a priest falls, he tempts souls away from Christ. At the same time, he desecrates the holy sanctuary where God is truly present. This is a thousand times more evil than even the paedophilia itself, in my opinion.

When these sins are publicized, the public at large loses what respect they might have had for the holy sanctuary. It becomes for them just a haven for the depraved.

Just think of the satisfaction this must give the devil. He thinks for a while he's really triumphant. We know by faith this can never be. --Holy Mother Church is in no danger of falling into Satan's hands. Sinners are falling into his hands.

But many faithful Catholics will replace them. Jesus said so; this is the kingdom of heaven. The wheat and the tares remain for the while, and when His harvest comes, they'll be gathered up all at once. The wheat will be saved and the tares sent to the furnace of hell.

-- eugene c. chavez (chavezec@pacbell.net), May 09, 2002.

What comes to mind immedialty Eugens is the following: WW11 concentration camp Scenario where a Rabbi is praying alone in the dark asking forgiveness for all involved in the madness.

The impression of Judaism being a violent faith is based on history of the OT which prepared the way for Christ. It saddens me deeply your asking if I have converted for the answer is I have evolved and still honour my Jewish heritage.

-- Jean Bouchard (jeanb@cwk.imag.net), May 09, 2002.

Jean,
Somebody else referred to the conversion you underwent, not I. In any case, I've never said Judaism is in any way reprehensible or violent. Where would I get such an idea?

I'm not saying the sins of a rabbi aren't as evil as those of a priest; though that would be giving the rabbi the advantage. I say the actions of our sinful priests is harmful to the Mystical Body of Christ. The actions of the rabbi, of course, are harmful to himself and his own congregation. They do little harm to Judaism, that I know of. Particularly since the news media doesn't care. They only care about Catholic priests right now.

If you can, log on Drudgereport.com today. You'll find a link to New York Press columnist TAKI in there; he has a very amusing point of view about the present scandal and the media. I mean it would be amusing, if it weren't so tragic.

-- eugene c. chavez (chavezec@pacbell.net), May 09, 2002.

Hello,

Remember, to really understand Christianity you have to be a little Hebrew. Judaism is our history and we cannot reject our history.

Shalom

-- Xavier David (xavier_david24@yahoo.com), May 10, 2002.

I believe you must understand a little about Hebrews. Not be one. And there's very little about the people of Israel in the Bible that is hard to understand. Their history, their reliegion, and their works throughout salvation history are quite easy to see. Jesus Christ (Yeshuah) is our Saviour, Jews and Gentiles. God is our Father, every last one of us. There is nothing esoteric to know, thanks to the Holy Spirit.

-- eugene c. chavez (chavezec@pacbell.net), May 10, 2002.

For your info I am a Catholic.

God Bless

-- Xavier (xavier_david24@yahoo.com), May 13, 2002.