VeriChip

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Some have said it's the mark of the beast while others have said it's a wonderful idea, if used for the right reason.

Your thoughts on this?

-- Jackiea (sorry@dontlikespam.com), April 07, 2002

Answers

To the top, please.

-- Jackiea (sorry@dontlikespam.com), April 07, 2002.

Hi, Jackiea.

I knew nothing about Verichip, so I went out on the Internet and found the following write-up at a 1991 "Business Wire" site:

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Dec. 19, 2001--Applied Digital Solutions, Inc., an advanced digital technology development company, announced today that it has developed a miniaturized, implantable identification chip -- called VeriChip(TM) -- that can be used in a variety of medical, security and emergency applications.

How VeriChip Works
VeriChip is an implantable, 12mm by 2.1mm radio frequency device about the size of the point of a typical ballpoint pen. Each VeriChip will contain a unique identification number and other critical data. Utilizing an external scanner, radio frequency energy passes through the skin energizing the dormant VeriChip, which then emits a radio frequency signal transmitting the identification number and other data contained in the VeriChip. The scanner will display the identification number, but the VeriChip data can also be transmitted, via telephone or the Internet, to an FDA compliant, secure data-storage site. It will then be accessible by authorized personnel. Inserting the VeriChip device is a simple procedure performed in an outpatient, office setting. It requires only local anesthesia, a tiny incision and perhaps a small adhesive bandage. Sutures are not necessary.

Medical Device Identification
Hundreds of thousands of medical devices are surgically implanted into patients every year. Examples of these life-saving and life-enhancing devices include pacemakers, artificial joints, orthopedic hardware, heart valves, and medication pumps. After insertion, these devices often require adjustment, repair, replacement, or even recall. VeriChip, inserted subdermally just above the implanted medical device, provides patients, medical providers, and manufacturers with a rapid, secure and non-invasive method for obtaining medically critical information about the device. VeriChip is a ready source of data about the patient's name and condition as well as the medical device's original components, required settings and other essential parameters. Future applications may include full medical record archival/retrieval for emergency medical care.

Emergency or Security-related Identification
Personal identity verification technology has gained considerable interest recently. A great deal of focus has been trained on so-called "biometric" technologies - which identify individuals by their unique biological or physical characteristics, such as fingerprints, voiceprints, retina characteristics, and face recognition points. VeriChip, by contrast, relies on imbedded, tamper-proof, microchip technology, which allows for non-invasive access to identification, medical and other critical data. Use of advanced VeriChip technology means that the threat of theft, loss, duplication or counterfeiting of data is substantially diminished or eliminated. Specific application areas include: enhancement of present forms of identification, search and rescue, and various law enforcement and defense uses.
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Simply from reading the above, I see nothing troubling or immoral about VeriChip. However, I have no doubt that people who have been pondering the subject can list some health-related or legal drawbacks. [Maybe someone will post one or more of these drawbacks here at the forum.]
Perhaps someday, the Magisterium will have to evaluate all the information and opinions about VeriChip and will have to make a statement about the morality of the use of the device. If the Vatican does speak about it one day, though, we can be sure that it will approach the subject in a serious, realistic manner, without any reference to the Book of Revelation (e.g., the "mark of the beast"). We are Catholics, not confused Fundamentalists. Unlike them, we are not addicted to end-times fantasies and ever more sensationalistic, fear-inducing interpretations of the symbols of the Apocalypse.

God bless you.
John

-- (jfgecik@hotmail.com), April 08, 2002.


There is a big difference between say, using fingerprints or retina scans to get into a secured area and having something implanted in your body just to go about your daily business.

I think the medical reasons just don't justify it--I mean, get a medic alert bracelet for emergency medical info, so if you need help, anybody can read it, not only someone with a scanner.

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), April 08, 2002.


Thanks for the opinions.

I must admit, when I first heard about it~it did give me the willies and yes, thoughts of the "mark" did pop in my head. But I think the main reserve I'm having with this is I'm a human being. I'm not a robot. Call me old fashioned or out of date but that's just a little too sci-fi for me. Somethin I ain't too hip on. :)

-- Jackiea (sorry@dontlikespam.com), April 08, 2002.


Personally all of Satan's ideas throughout history have seemed like good ideas. It is not a bad idea to be like God, but the problem with any of Satan's plans is that he never shows you the bad side. The veri-chip may or may not be the "Mark of the Beast" but it sure as shooting is only a small step away from it. Repent now and turn to Jesus while there is still time.

-- w. m. (gandalf987@hotmail.com), May 07, 2002.


Top for Gale!

-- David (David@excite.com), August 28, 2002.

Regardless of man, beast, or God, the VeriChip, is Uncostitonal. It is Immoral, and an invsion of privacy, shure its fine if used right but has any thing that would be fine if used right EVER BEEN USED RIGHT!!! No not to my knoledge. And yes you have gotten inf but youve only gotten the info form the manufactuer, this info is tainted and unuseable, you need to look at ALL the facts, not just the propeganda the government wants you to see, and befor you say it, I am not a conspricy theriost, all of my information comes written news articals, signed government documents.

-- Randal Hoelzel (Patheticgamer@yahoo.com), October 17, 2002.

I see the Verichip implant as a stepping stone to the anti-christ and the Mark of the Beast. With so many other occurances happening around the world right now I beleave we are in the Season of the Lords Return. In responce to John's comment about confused Fundamentalists, my wife and her family are catholic and I am a member of a Catholic Parish so I look at the Catholic Church from the outsider per say. After 9/11 the pope called all religious leaders to Assiai for the Interfaith Summit on Jan 24 2002. This included leaders such as Amadou Gasseto who is the high priest for the followers of Avelekete Voodoo in Benin. Many other false religions were greated with open arms at the conference. The only thing that bothers me about this is it wasn't open arms to share Christ with others it was to show the world that the Catholic Church will accept all the other religions and for the most part say that Christ is not the only way to heaven. I believe not only that verichip is a steping stone but the Catholic chuch is also. Just before Christ's return there will be a One World Religion and I believe the Catholic church is doing it's best to assume that role.

-- Chris D (youyouus2002@yahoo.com), October 27, 2002.

> "Many other false religions were greated with open arms at the conference."

Only in the interest of peace, as you can read here: http://www.fju.edu.tw/homepage2/peace/Assisi8a.htm

The Pope never advocated the acceptance of false doctrines in these different faiths. If he has, I would appreciate you showing me that.

Read here on the "Voodoo" Vodou religion: http://www.branwenscauldron.com/resources/vodou.html

You will see it has nothing to do with the nonsense that Hollywood shows, and nothing to do with the North American corruption of that faith, which they call "Hoodoo", and we call "Voodoo".

-- Gordon (gvink@yahoo.com), October 27, 2002.


"Just before Christ's return there will be a One World Religion and I believe the Catholic church is doing it's best to assume that role."

Doesn't have to assume anything... It IS! On the contrary, it is the secular world that is "doing it's best to assume" that the Catholic Church is a "stumbling block".

In Christ.

-- Jake Huether (jake_huether@yahoo.com), October 28, 2002.



Come to think of it, there is a One World Religion... been around these parts fer pert near 2,000 years now. Gee Walley!

Good point, Jake. Mine may have a twist to it, but all the same. =)

-- Emerald (emerald1@cox.net), October 28, 2002.


I'm not allowing that device around my family. It is evil, for sure.

-- steph wade (chevy55ok@aol.com), November 03, 2002.

I think that this technology is something we really need to keep an eye on in the coming years. The prospects for it's use in the financial world are very scary to me. I also think however, that when the "Mark of the Beast" does arrive, it will be very obvious to those that read their bibles. When we are asked to take the mark, there will be no mistakes. We will be asked to renounce Jesus and follow the Antichrist. So keep a close eye out for the signs. Ever hopefull for the return of Christ, M.

-- M. (cozumel4ever@aol.com), November 04, 2002.

Hi M:

Something like verichip would be a good beast-mark candidate. Problem is, seems antichrist is a ways off, as too many things must take place before his emergence that have not yet occurred. Things could move quickly I suppose. I feel that much of what comes between now and antichrist is both wonderful and aweful.

But all this sort of thing is so beyond our control, and it is bound to happen whether we put up a fuss or not.

There is only one thing we can do to compromise the evil one, and it is not something that can wait for a sign, circumstance or event, and that is to align our will with the will of the Creator regardless of any personal expense to ourselves. This renders the perverted one void, and his game is lost. Let those who desire mammon have their way if they persist.

-- Emerald (emerald1@cox.net), November 05, 2002.


Greatly appriciate the comments in this forum. Revelation 13:16 plainly states "on his right hand or on his forehead." Allot has been pulled of the net concerning verichip since 9/11 but these are the two places that will be used as the chip becomes more common. We also find in the Bible (Gods infallable Word)"that no man may buy or sell, save he that have the mark, which is the name of the beast..." which is a major selling point as money, plastic etc will become obsolete. As for the the Pope, every catholic I have ever spoken with has never read the Bible. Mathew Mark Luke and John, Jude and Revelation is a fine start. All One In The Body Of Christ...dont receave the chip. R. MC

-- Max Cathcart (Pastormaxc@aol.com), November 20, 2002.


"every catholic I have ever spoken with has never read the Bible."

Guess you can't say this anymore. All of us are pretty well versed in the Bible, Max.

Take care.

In Christ.

-- Jake Huether (jake_huether@yahoo.com), November 20, 2002.


Jake,

Well, be careful here... Remember, we may have read the REAL Bible, the inspired Word of God as passed down from Jesus, the Apostles, and OT writers, but we do NOT know what this gentleman considers to be "the bible".

Personally, I don't know if reading a partial Bible like the KJV or a "Book or Mormon" or Koran would count as "reading the Bible", I suppose the desire to seek out the Lord is infinitely better than NOT having the desire to do so.

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), November 20, 2002.


> "every catholic I have ever spoken with has never read the Bible."

The Bible is read to us, every Sunday at mass in three seperate readings. Does that count? :D

-- Gordon (gvink@yahoo.com), November 20, 2002.


I will admit, I do not know a lot about all of this Nor am i a Christian, however, I am surely on my way. Like many have said before me, this may be the mark of the beasdt however it still has to evolve into something more technical where there is no long a use for money or credit cards. Despite all of this, there are more factors that we all need to consider. Who will the anti-christ be? What clues have we been given to unravel that? and Whats next to go public that is just another step before christ returns?

May Christ see that we are all trying to live in his name!

-- (lil_mini_buga@hotmail.com), December 07, 2002.


A couple of things. For one, Verichip is continually fulfulling every requirement for the mark of the beast in the book of revelation. It is implanted in the back of the hand (forehead may come later), it is already being said to have many future uses in the economic area as well as medical, and many news sources are already saying that the verichip may become mandatory later on because of "newly discovered uses," quoting an actual government official. So unless this news source and/or government official was lying, then anyone who doesn't accept the chip will be accused of "advocating terrorism" which would easily lead to the persecution spoken of in the bible.

-- someone else (XxKpQtBoixX@yahoo.com), March 04, 2003.

I also think it's the mark of the beast and that if in the wrong hands it can be used wrong. I wouldn't want to nget that put in me. I wouldn't want that because other people could use it in the wrong way

-- Aaron Allen Bialas (Pollakas@Juno.com), May 13, 2003.

The mark of the beast is supposed to be 666 I believe this means that the sequence of numbers six- six -six is what is meant. Example is 123456-234567-345678- We are close to this with our social security numbers our credit card numbers and different account numbers, It is only a matter of time

-- David Morris (ifixit0809@aol.com), June 15, 2003.

Last time I checked, social security numbers had 9 digits, and credit card numbers 16. Are you suggesting we do away with the use of numbers altogether, in order to avoid 6 digit numbers which would fit into your personal interpretation of this almost universally misinterpreted scripture?

-- Paul (PaulCyp@cox.net), June 15, 2003.

I just watched a documentary on the VeriChip compiling news articles from various mainline news outlets, as well as some film clips of our most noteworthy news broadcasters concerning the chip. In fact, I saw Diane Sawyers (Sp?) interview a family who had just volunteered to receive the chip. Then I saw Andy Rooney bemoaning the fact that we don't have any proper identification system in place, and how that needs to be corrected!

Last year, I read a news article (I think it was Alabama or Arizona) where moms were bringing their kiddos in for a free microchipping. The article said folks were lining up in droves to get the chip. It was in just a little local paper.

It is striking that the Chip's description seems to be explicitly described in Revelations "cannot buy or sell," "in the head or hand."

6 is the number of imperfection; the number 666 is COMPLETE IMperfection. 6-Satan, 6-Satan's son, 6-unholy spirit. The unholy trinity!

I used to believe the Anti-Christ would stem from one of the three major religions, but it seems secularism/humanism is the religion of our day, prosperty, false peace. . . but who knows? The Tower of Babel in Genesis depicts man's attempt at controlling the world. The word "Babylon" comes from Babel. What we see today replicates the same thing as Genesis only on a much larger scale, i.e., Babylon the Great. "Fallen is Babylon," says Revelations 17 and 18.

Gail

P.S. Timothy McVeigh "claimed" to have been microchipped in the service! Course he was a nut . . . but he did sort of act like a robot! (Okay, let's don't go there!)

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), June 16, 2003.


timothy mcveigh was NOT microchiped. he was a loony.

although this:

I used to believe the Anti-Christ would stem from one of the three major religions, but it seems secularism/humanism is the religion of our day, prosperty, false peace

is right on the money

-- paul (dontsendmemail@notanaddress.com), June 16, 2003.


PALM BEACH, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 23, 2003--

Minimum Purchase Requirements to Maintain Exclusivity for 5 Years Call for Sale of over 75,000 VeriChips and 3,500 Proprietary VeriChip Scanners

Applied Digital Solutions, Inc. (Nasdaq: ADSX), an advanced technology development company, today announced that its wholly owned subsidiary, VeriChip Corporation, has recently signed exclusive international distribution agreements with VeriChip distributors in Russia, Colombia and Venezuela.

The new international distribution agreements are similar to the distribution agreement previously announced for Mexico. Under the five-year exclusive distribution agreements, these distributors must meet annual minimum sales quotas to maintain exclusive distribution rights in their respective countries. If these annual minimum sales quotas are met, the new distribution agreements call for the sale of over 75,000 VeriChips and 3,500 proprietary VeriChip scanners. At current prices, these minimum sales quotas will yield in excess of $10 million in revenue over the 5 year period.

About VeriChip(TM)

VeriChip is a subdermal, radio frequency identification (RFID) device that can be used in a variety of security, financial, emergency identification and other applications. About the size of a grain of rice, each VeriChip product contains a unique verification number that is captured by briefly passing a proprietary scanner over the VeriChip. A small amount of radio frequency energy passes from the scanner energizing the dormant VeriChip, which then emits a radio frequency signal transmitting the verification number. In October 2002, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) ruled that VeriChip is not a regulated device with regard to its security, financial, personal identification/safety applications but that VeriChip's healthcare information applications are regulated by the FDA. VeriChip Corporation is a wholly owned subsidiary of Applied Digital Solutions (Nasdaq: ADSX). For more information about VeriChip, visit www.adsx.com.

About Applied Digital Solutions, Inc.

Applied Digital Solutions is an advanced technology development company that focuses on a range of life-enhancing, personal safeguard technologies, early warning alert systems, miniaturized power sources and security monitoring systems combined with the comprehensive data management services required to support them. Through its Advanced Technology Group, the Company specializes in security-related data collection, value-added data intelligence and complex data delivery systems for a wide variety of end users including commercial operations, government agencies and consumers. Applied Digital Solutions owns a majority position in Digital Angel Corporation (AMEX: DOC). For more information, visit the Company's website at http://www.adsx.com.

Statements about the Company's future expectations, including future revenues and earnings, and all other statements in this press release other than historical facts are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and as that term is defined in the Private Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward- looking statements involve risks and uncertainties and are subject to change at any time, and the Company's actual results could differ materially from expected results. The Company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequently occurring events or circumstances.

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), July 27, 2003.


I do believe this is the device, which will one day be "The Mark of the Beast". I have noticed trends in our society that do continue to push us forward to a point that, I believe, government will feel they "must" keep track of people more closely, and that buying and selling is getting closer and closer to being a society with no money. I believe all the signs point to what we already know from the Bible, and this device is just another sign that we are getting closer. How long this will take, there is no way to know, but I don't understand how it cannot be seen for what it will become. BUT then the Bible tells us this will happen too, it says that MANY will be deceived and will ACCEPT the mark. Revelation is full of symbolizism, and so think that what ever the mark is will actually have 666 in it, is (IMHO) not realistic. If it were so obvious, why would so many be fooled? I think we just need to keep an eye on the progression of this device as well as watching for other signs. But one thing I do know, I will NEVER allow this device to be implanted in my body.

-- Merry (dontexcept@yahoo.com), September 03, 2003.

Just as another note, visit this site and see what one computer says about the future of this device, especially in regards to replacing "credit cards", etc. http://www.computerbytesman.com/biometrics/vccom.htm

-- Merry (dontexcept@yahoo.com), September 03, 2003.

Hmmm. Interesting. Has anyone noticed that, while the Bible says that people will be forced to take the mark, ADS has deliberately steered away from projects that would require anyone to have a verichip implanted? In fact, the only instance I can remember recently of this technology being forced on anyone is of Walmart's request that it's top 50 suppliers start using RFID (the same technology that verichip is based on) to track their product. Somehow, I don't think the Bible is talking about pallets of Gillete razors.

-- James B. (narsherojihan@hotmail.com), October 28, 2003.

No, the Bible does NOT say it will be forced. It says that it will be one's choice to accept the mark. Those who do not accept will not be able to buy or sell. ::In today's world, if one is unable to buy or sell, they're basically dead to the world... meaning one has small chances of survival in today's society without being able to financially function.::

-- Daniel EMM (anonymous@abcd.com), December 01, 2003.

I do not think that the inventors of this product (or any product that may become the Mark) initially made (will make) it with the intention of it becoming the Mark. And perhaps initially they will try to steer away from it being so, but that doesn't mean it won't eventually end up being used in such a manner. I'm not saying that the inventors of this product did not have the best intentions when they came up with the concept for it, but it has an extremely high chance of either itself becoming or at the very least leading the way to what will eventually become the Mark of the Beast. If you can't see that, then I am very sorry, but I for one can see the alarmingly high probability of it. Am I in panic over it? NO! Nothing we say or do will stop this from happening and I don't want to try! It simply means that we are getting closer to the coming of our Lord. THAT is something to be happy about, but I will not turn a blind eye to what is before me. I want to be one that is prepared and that is what signs are for. I take this thing as a sign of the times we are in. Plain and simple.

-- Merry (dontexcept@yahoo.com), January 05, 2004.

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