Women this is what your goverment thinks of you

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As some of you know I am in my mid {ouch} 30's and have Lupus.I was lucky that with cutting corners I was able to stay home and raise our children.Oldest is now 16 youngest is 2 .I worked part time here and there but nothing to steady .My plan was to start school when the baby was just a little older .Who ever thought I would come down with this disease ? Not me ! Well I am now not able to stay on my feet any long length of time ,I have brain fog , joint pain ,back pain and probally 50 other things .Well I start looking into disabilty in case things don't get better .Well to my surprise I am intitled to a whopping big old nothing !!!! I stayed home and did the hardest , most thankless job on the face of the earth.My goverment I guess doesn't think it's important for us to stay home with our children . I posted this at cs too.I was shocked to find out and wonder how many others dont know either.

-- Patty {NY State} (fodfarms@hotmail.com), March 25, 2002

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Dear Patty, First I am so sorry about your disease, I read about Lupus and it seems to strike the fairly young. and as far as I know there is not much they can do about it. But I sure would look into health foods and such. I get so mad at the systems in this country, and those who seem to get away with useing it wrongfully, People go into hospitals with gun shot wounds and over doses, and they never pay a dime for there treatment. Yet they would take every dime I have, If we needed care. Our old people have to sell everything they got, in order to put there husband or wife into a rest home. My daughter has a home care business, and she has to teach the children how to dress wounds,of there mom, or grandparent, cause the insurance ran out, Honey I really feel for you, It is so unfair. You stayed home and was a mom to your family, And I know you don"t feel well, I think there is a lupus group were people get together, maybe they may have some answers for you. God Bless

-- Irene texas (tkorsborn@cs.com), March 25, 2002.

Irene , you are so sweet .Yes I belong to a couple of groups and it helps .The thing most do not know is Lupus stricks 1 in 1,000 woman and yet so little is known.I hate to say it but mostly because its a woman disease {vey few men get it}.It hurts that are goverment will send billions overseas .I stayed home to raise my childen correctly , so the will be good productive people .My husband woks alot of o.t. to make ends meet .Just when we thought we would be able to get ahead {with me going to work} I find I am unable to .I don't know what the answer is except we should take care of ae own first .No elderly person should have to choose food or there medicine .

-- Patty {NY State} (fodfarms@hotmail.com), March 25, 2002.

Hello Patty,

I understand how you feel. My wife has Glacoma and was ineligible for disability because she can still see a little bit out of one eye! She is only twenty-five years old and can not drive anymore because of her condition. But, the government said that since she is not "legally" blind, they are unable to help her.

Sincerely,

Ernest

-- http://communities.msn.com/livingoffthelandintheozarks (espresso42@hotmail.com), March 25, 2002.


Some how that doesn't sound right. I have a brother-in-law who has been disabled since his late teens and he also only worked part time. He does get disability. Is it because it's lupus? I would double check on this one.

-- Terri (hooperterri@prodigy.net), March 25, 2002.

OH!!! I wonder if he gets social security? Anyway......he is 40 or so and he does have a small income. He is totally disabled now.

-- Terri (hooperterri@prodigy.net), March 25, 2002.


The problem is social security and the other disability programs are there to protect people from losing their lively hood if the source of support stops because of disability or death or such. Thats why its called social security. Security that you would not become homeless and starve or have to accept charity. Since you have been supproted by your husband and still are you have not lost any income. Sure it is hard and will be hard you are just not due money because you are sick. Social security is not to pay you if you are sick just if you lose your income. If you had had income, over a long enough time and in a large enough amount you would have established that you were now deprived of that income and were due benifets. Sorry for your illines .

-- David in North Al. (bluewaterfarm@mindspring.com), March 26, 2002.

I guess some are missing my point .I have worked for the last 17 years only I did not ecieve a pay check.My husband worked 60 or more hours some weeks to keep bills paid.A marriage is a life long patnership ,we ae 1 not to.Well it was about my time to take some pressue off him and wack ! I put more pessure on him. No are income has not stayed the same ,check out co payments on presciptions and co payments on DR's visits, and a 2 hour drive weekly for the last 6 weeks ( 1 way) .I did the work that didnt bring home a check , he did the wok that did.Women are looked down upon in this country , the job of raising children is not worthy enough I guess.The system is not set up to protect family values .Maybe thats why are country is in the situation it is.

-- Patty {NY State} (fodfarms@hotmail.com), March 26, 2002.

Exactly patty! I tried to post this earlier, but it did not post. When a woman is healthy and well, she is able to do many things that SAVE money like sew,cook from scratch, garden, can, yard-sale, do the heavy cleaning and barn work. and on and on! When she gets sick these things are not done which costs more money for the family in the long run. Plus the cost of medications, trips to the doctors, increased need for convenience items, or babay sitters. ETC... all of these things add up to a lot of monay and I am sure that even $500 a month would help. In this country very little value is placed on caring for a home and family. All that matters is how much monwy you make!!

-- Melissa in SE Ohio (me@home.net), March 26, 2002.

Yep.

-- Terri (hooperterri@prodigy.net), March 26, 2002.

The scary part is if a man decided to leave a woman in this situation she would have no choice but welfare.And then he would have gounds to seek custody of the children.

-- Patty {NY State} (fodfarms@hotmail.com), March 26, 2002.


Patty, I am sorry for your illness and your situation. Unfortunately, social security was set up that you have to pay into it to get anything out. Admittedly, you did a good thing staying home with your children and it is unfortunate that you must suffer for that now but that is the way it is set up. I don't think it is picking on women, it is just that it is more likely that women are the ones staying home. I, myself am on social security disability but I worked in a hospital for 25 years and paid into social security. At age 62 or 65 you will be able to get social security from your husbands record - 1/2 of what he gets. Even if you should divorce, you will still get that amount as long as you were married for at least 10 years. I'm not saying you shouldn't be entitled to social security but that is the law and the fact still remains that you didn't pay into it. It is actually an insurance. Social security disability insurance and if you don't pay for an insurance, you are not entitled to it. I do believe there are private insurance companies out there that will insure stay at home moms for disability. There are some disabled people who get money from their parents social security record but they were disabled while they were still children and were entitled for that reason. I'm sorry Patty. You might be entitled to SSI if your income is under a certain amount. You might want to check into that.

-- Barb in Ky. (bjconthefarm@yahoo.com), March 26, 2002.

OK why is it allowed and ok that I collect off his ss but not his disability ? He worked hours that I could of {over time and sometimes a part time job} so that the children could be home and taken care of by me .He could have never gotten where he is now without me being home with the kids.We could not of afforded for him to go to school and get a degree with me woking .I know it sounds funny but figure in child care , convience foods, clothing ,gas,2 good vechiles and me without a coleege education .I would have lost money woking.Plus my children would have been raised by strangers.

-- Patty {NY State} (fodfarms@hotmail.com), March 26, 2002.

Patty, don't get me wrong. I think it is wonderful that you stayed home with the children and I understand how it could save money. It's just that that is the law, I'm not saying it is right, it's just unfortunate. Social Security disability insurance is that, an insurance. Regular social security that one gets on retirement is different.

-- Barb in Ky. (bjconthefarm@yahoo.com), March 26, 2002.

Laws are mostly made by men .Wonder why this one doesn't seem fair? If a poor woman in my situation had her husband leave her where would she be ? It just erks me ,look at the way our society is .Many may disagree but i think alot has to do with childen being raised in day care , single family parents ect.Doesn't mean some single parents don't do a great job , but most don't.I had no clue about not being able to get disability until I needed it .No one plans on getting ill , I cannot even say I would do things different .I just thought all the young woman should know.

-- Patty {NY State} (fodfarms@hotmail.com), March 26, 2002.

Patty, it is good that you posted this to make other SAHM's aware of this. You are right, most young women are not aware of this or even think they could possibly become disabled. As far as women getting 1/2 of their husbands retirement when they retire, I personally think that is wrong. If the husband dies, that's another story, but while he is still alive I don't think the woman should be able to get anything from her husbands record. For instance, my MIL never worked outside the home yet she and both my FIL get social security checks every month. She gets 1/2 of what he gets. I agree, the system could use some overhauling.

-- Barb in Ky. (bjconthefarm@yahoo.com), March 26, 2002.


Which leads to the questions "Should we have social security or not?" "Should people be left to their own devices to plan for what the future may hold?"

I personally think that welfare should consist of 3 hot meals and a cot to sleep on at night, and job training during the day/night with the people on the program rotating the child care (obviously with proper supervision). You should not get subsidized housing that can often be nicer than the housing people who don't believe in going on the dole scrimp and save for. You eat what you're given, and not given food stamps that allow you to waste it on junk food.

These changes would free up a lot of money to help justifiably handicapped people.

I also think that it was long overdue for spouses to be able to start IRA's for their non-working (outside the home, that is ;) spouses.

And, sometimes it is all in how you write the paperwork as to whether you get approved or not. I know they have schools for grant writing so that organizations can improve their chances of getting all the free money out there, so they probably have them for people in the "industry" (lawyers, doctors, etc.) so to speak.

I don't know what you have in the way of income, but you might also look into "spending down" your assets, especially if you think you might have to go into a nursing home at some point--sure hope not!.

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), March 26, 2002.


GT bite your tongue !! If I cannot take care of myself any more I will be dead.I know its a sin but I will not live that way.I also do not believe in a lot of goverment programs.But lets see if I was a druggy I would get lots of things, how about the druggy welfare mom who has not worked in 9 years .Don't say it doesnt happen I KNOW it does, they get fee housing food and spending money.Live overseas , yup good old usa will give them money too!

But if you are an honest person who never took a hand out well sorry hold your hand on you duppa.Say you worked all your life and paid into the system .Your hubby gets put into a nursing home , spend your life saving to keep him there , then when thats gone , sell your home and oops we forgot that 20.00 in your piggy bank too ! They want that too.

-- Patty {NY State} (fodfarms@hotmail.com), March 26, 2002.


Oh Patty, I wouldn't wish it on anyone, I am just saying that for people who go that route, they need to plan ahead as the rules are very complex (like you have to deed over your house to your kids or whomever currently I think 3 years in advance of entering a nursing home). That's all I am saying. Another thing you might look into is doing something from home like customer support by phone (I hate telemarketers, but this is not the same thing), where you can stand, sit, and move about as you like. There are a lot of things available to help workers who are disabled--you might even try looking at job training through Goodwill.

But on the other hand, it is also unfair to take away your SS benefits if say you planned for retirement and have extra assets--you paid into the system, you should get your full amount due regardless of your financial situation.

I agree with you on the druggie thing, and I would add smoking and drinking as well--all three are willpower conditions, not true addictions. You can live without all three of them, you can't live without air, water, and food. Food addiction might be a disease because you can't stop eating forever. They even have programs to help compulsive gamblers--good grief. Talk about a waste of money.

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), March 26, 2002.


G.T. I hope you are not equating social security disability with welfare! It is not. SSI is but that is different. I agree that the system could be much improved on welfare too. Some really need it, short term but most do not. a Lot of people just know how to work the system and are too lazy to work. I also believe social security is getting stricter on who qualifies and not approving drunks and people who are too overweight to work. I personally would have preferred to had the money I put in social security when I worked to invest on my own but that was not a choice. So if we do away with it, what happens to all the people who paid into it for years and are now dependent on it?

-- Barb in Ky. (bjconthefarm@yahoo.com), March 26, 2002.

Patty..sorry about the lupus..and hope you get on top of it. I fully understand your frustration and understand your reasoning. My husband just told me the other day that I need to try and make some kinda money so my benfits would be there. I have fibromyalgia/chronic fatigue. I get remissions, thank you Lord, and try to pick up work while I am feeling up to it. The problem is, as I am getting older, I do not have the good days that I used to and it scares the crap outta me that I may well not have benefits. It will not matter that for the biggest share of my life I have worked. And oh, lets not forget the 10 yrs of farming with my x. Nothing on paper, in the governments eyes, for all those long hours with just the two of us farming a thousand acres.

And GT..I hope you never have an addiction, or better yet, a love for something that the government and the holier than thou crowd deem to be bad for you. Do you like your homemade pasteries? Do you like ANY fast foods? Do you need your Pepsi or Dew? How dare you have that attitude. As long as the cigs, beer, etc., are legal..hey, who are you to say what is right or not? And yes..I believe if memory serves me right, you have taken this stance before and been OFFENDED because we smokers run up your insurance. Most smokers feel so ostricised right now..they are the LAST ones to go to the doc. I myself use alternative meds or nothing. My father died of cancer. 3 pack a day smoker..did not cost you anything GT..he was at home .. with no pain meds.. until the last six days of his life. Since he had always worked two and sometimes three jobs his whole life..and since he never took gov. program monies...I think you won out on him GT. Its not that I mind that you have an opinion..its that you so blatantly paint us all with the same brush that burns me.

So sorry to the board..but dog gone it..sometimes I have to vent on these things. And unless you understand..truly understand, the frustration and anxiety that Patty is going through..I do not think that spouting law, morals or anything else is very helpful. Lupus, fibro, etc. ARE mostly female diseases. And other than throwing a garbage can of drugs at ya...they are not exactly falling all over themselves to find cures. If this were a predominately male disease...you can bet that there would be some resource for the disabled.

-- Sher (riverdobbers@webtv.net), March 26, 2002.


My point is that no one is "forced" to smoke, drink, or do drugs. Should the government (taxpayers, or people with health insurance) pay for the healthcare of someone who deliberately mistreats their body (and coincidentally, usually does not have health insurance because of their choice in spending their money), no.

If people started smoking before the warnings on the packs (sounds like your father may have fit that category, Sher), sue the tobacco companies (and perhaps the people who grew it too, while you're at it, when they should have been lobbying to grow something useful like Industrial Hemp), I feel you have a good case. If people started smoking after the little warnings showed up on the packs, well, they knew the risks. Same with alcohol, sue the liquor companies for healthcare. Illegal drugs, sue the dealers, legal ones, sue the companies that made them, and perhaps the doctors, if they got you hooked.

I don't look at drug use, drinking, and alcohol as sinful, I was actually raised that to do such things to your body was just plain stupid. There is so much medical evidence out there as to why such things are bad for you that one doesn't even need to bring a higher power into it. By the way, I am not the only person who feels this way about who should be paying these costs.

I did make an exception for food (I guess someone missed it), but that is because human beings cannot exist without food on a permanent basis, we'd die. I have stopped drinking soda, pretty much, and usually drink water instead, but I do like Devonshire cream. However, the closest I can get to it (it is not made in the states for some reason) is to let regular real cream (not the stuff from the store with carragheenan in it as thickener) sit without being opened about 2 months past the "sell by" date in the fridge. The closest place to me that sells real cream is about 20 miles away, not worth the drive for just that. I do like good pastry, but that I have to go out of state for, again, not worth it. Fast food I can take or leave. I kind of agree with the saying "eat right, exercise, die anyway."

Barb, I did not equate welfare with SS--I said that if we made some of the changes I suggested to the welfare system, we'd have more money to help the truly disabled. And Lupus or any other disease that hits you is totally different from something you do to yourself.

My own feeling on healthcare is that you shouldn't be discriminated against (in other words, denied insurance or charged more money) for any condition other than smoking, drinking, or drugs. Your family history should not matter because you can't choose your parents. You should be able to get free rehab treatment (which of course the state should charge back to the aforementioned providers of the alcohol, cigs, and drugs). Once you have successfully completed rehab, and have stayed clean and sober for a certain period of time, you should be able to get health coverage at the normal rates.

And, a lot of us don't go to the doctor, even when we do have coverage, because either we just don't like going, or for some other reason, like alternative meds or meditation or whatever.

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), March 26, 2002.


Lets not fight each other , lets fight the laws .That is what is really hurting us.I am not sure if it was on this board or not but do you know 1 in 1,000 woman have lupus yet there is so little known .I tuelyy believe if it was a male disease more would be done.Doctors discard us when we complain.Ow it must be that time of the month , she must be pms~ing and similar things.

-- Patty {NY State} (fodfarms@hotmail.com), March 26, 2002.

You still do not understand GT. Do NOT lump cigs and alcohol in with drugs. Drugs are illegal and until the laws are changed..we are not criminals. I do not know any smokers who are not paying for their own insurance. I do know plenty of immigrants who have broke our county welfare system and put the hike to insurance costs because..hey! .. they get it all free. . not me..not the people who drink and smoke. And no thank you on the sueing idea. Thats alot of the reason that the rates are so high too. My pop died respecting me...to sue on his behalf .. would shame him and us. Am I saying cigs and smoking are a great idea? Heck no. I am saying its still legal in this country and until it is not, and the same applies to alcohol, too bad. By the way..they x rayed dads lungs twice..because they could not believe what they saw (or rather what they did not see) on the first ones. His lungs were clear..hello! His heart was strong..the pain meds finally gave him a heart attack. I know many people who die of cancer,and yes lung cancer, that have never ever been around cigs or smoke. How easily we blame .. whats in your food? Whats in the air that you breathe..not including your neighbors smoke, have you read the articles on any covert operations that have put barium and aluminum in the air that we all breathe? You have alot more to worry about in this country and world than smokers and drinkers.

By the by..have you used the school system? We were not blessed with children...but we have paid taxes to the schools for all of these years. Do I whine and cry? No..but it sure burns my butt to do it. My tax money goes to fund abortions..strictly against what we believe in ...do I have a choice? No.

What ever point you were trying to make with me has not sunk in. I am for SMALLER government. To sue .. and tax people outrageously..is not what this country was founded on/for.

-- Sher (riverdobbers@webtv.net), March 26, 2002.


I am for SMALLER government. To sue .. and tax people outrageously..is not what this country was founded on/for.

Then, Social Security and other government programs should be done away with completely if I read your quote correctly (I could be reading it wrong, though, but that's what it looks like you're saying), and we wouldn't even posting on this thread.

Those who have paid into the system (and into say federal jobs for a number of years but got out before retirement age should be able to get their money out with interest to invest elsewhere). Should the government bail out anyone, I guess is the question. Patty's only solution may be to get a divorce, under the current laws--I have read of several cases of parents divorcing to get health care for the children--it doesn't mean you can't still be a family.

As to school taxes, well, whether people currently have children in the school system or not, I do know that most (if not all) of us have gone to some school at some time in our lives, whether it be K-12 or higher education. The school that was new when you or I attended was paid for by others. Also, at least in my area, the schools often serve double duty, providing spaces for community education classes, so to me, while the taxes are unfair because they are ad valorum instead of being the same for everyone, the notion of taxing for schools, fire/ambulance etc. is one I agree with to some extent.

And the only other option (besides social security) is private disability insurance, which Patty still may be able to get, depending upon the company. I know many who might think of life insurance for the stay-at-home parent, but most never think of disability insurance.

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), March 26, 2002.


I hear ya Patty. It bothers me when people are so quick to dump on social services for Americans, but totally ignore the far greater funds we send out of this country. And you're right, you probably would get better service if you were on drugs, single, etc. Some states might treat you better than others, that's about the only advice I know.

Sher; nicotine and alcohol are very serious drugs. Legal or not. Cocaine and heroin were also once legal in the US. Alcohol use causes far more damage, disease, deaths and innocent deaths than all the other drugs put together. Alcoholism is the most serious drug problem in the US. Smoking cigarettes is a drug addiction plain and simple. Most crack addicts eventually get away and stay away after a year or two of use. You can't say that about the average smoker. I'm not saying you should give up your smoking, that's your choice. But stop fooling yourself that it's not a drug.

-- Dave (multiplierx9@hotmail.com), March 26, 2002.


Not fooling myself Dave..but if it is terrible..then make it illegal and be done with it. It is legal. I would quite imagine that there are alot of things that fall under the label drug..it is whether they are legal or not that determines if those of us using are law breakers or not. I do believe this will all be a moot deal if the taxes continue to go up on them. Most of us will quit. Then you all can feel better about the smoking issue..but unfortunately someone or something else will be next in line for the higher tax..the higher insurance rates..etc. Only a matter of time. By the new guidelines out on weight and the governments definition of obese..and the rumblings over fast food..I do not think I have to think too hard about what is next on the agenda.

-- Sher (riverdobbers@webtv.net), March 26, 2002.

Just because the government legalizes something doesn't mean that it approves of it as being good. I liken it to classified ads in the newspaper--the newspaper has no obligation to check out the ad for its veracity, that is an issue between the person taking out the ad and the person responding to said ad. The government is not responsible for misuse.

In fact the government has provided plenty of info on how bad drinking, smoking, and drugs are--that info did not come from the providers of those things.

I don't know if taxes will go up on junk food/fast food--if they were really serious they'd tax basic ingredients like sugar as well--but I'm sure the highly paid lobbyists will stop that idea dead in its tracks.

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), March 27, 2002.


You are soooo right GT..lots of things like LEGAL drugs that the doctor prescribes for you are real killers. Go figure. You do realize that statistics are skewed to benefit the powers that be. Other than an accident..if you die and are known to smoke or to HAVE smoked in the past...no matter what the direct reason you died..they will put on the paper work that you died from smoking..that seems a bit odd. The amount of people permanently damaged and/or killed from prescription drugs will take your breath away. Not to mention that alot of docs are now looking at fibro, for instance, and tracking it back to vaccines that were given in childhood. I do not know..where do you start? I guess most of you start with smokers..fine with me. I am sure when they start in on the food side of things..there will be alot more voices outraged .. that too is okay. In the end..it does not really matter.. and in the end..all this conversation does not change the fact that Patty and many many women like her are suffering and being totally ignored. If you read about some of these diseases like lupus..you will see that women FAR outweigh men in numbers of suffering with this disease. She was a stay at home mom..homeschooled..took care of the homefires..her government does not recognize her. Yet they do recognize..alcoholics, drug (illegal)users, illegal immigrants...hey .. why should she not feel left out and invisible. THis is the problem that was put forth to the board..I do not think that suggesting Patty get a divorce..so she can go on welfare..is a viable solution. Do the others have to go to these great lengths in order to get help? I think not.

-- Sher (riverdobbers@webtv.net), March 27, 2002.

I think we all need to speak up.I for one never thought it could happen to me .It could be your wife , mother ,sister,daughter , you name it .There is a 1 in 1000 odd that YOU WILL get lupus .Call or write your state reps .

-- Patty {NY State} (fodfarms@hotmail.com), March 27, 2002.

Sher, to me (and to most people, I think), there is a world of difference between being your normal welfare deadbeat, and going on welfare because of a bona fide disease such as Lupus. I would not begrudge Patty or anyone else for doing so, and if that meant divorce, like I said, it doesn't mean they can't see each other.

That said, the original question had to do with getting compensation from a program (SSDI) that nothing was paid into in the first place. I know that SS pays minors until they're 18, but that is understandable, until they are adults, they cannot be expected to support themselves.

I also agree with the poster (may be on the other threads--this was posted in 3 places) who said it was wrong for a spouse to get half the other spouse's SS while both were still alive, although I have no problem with the surviving spouse getting the higher of the two SS amounts. Medicare, etc. is okay to get.

What I think could change is that the working spouse should be able to pay into Social Security for the non-working spouse, at whatever level they can afford to do so--both the "employer" and the "employee" share, as you would if you were self-employed. If you think the spouse could get $30,000 per year at a job, pay the SS taxes for that "job" as if the spouse had it, if you can afford more, go for it. And I would also encourage anyone who's "just a few years short" to maybe muddle through a year or two of work so you're covered.

Patty, have you looked into the Americans with Disabilities Act to see if anything in that law could help? Could be grounds for an "equal protection under the law" suit (why help addicts but not SAHP's (men too stay at home).

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), March 27, 2002.


Never thought of that GT .The reason I posted in so many places was I had no idea about disabilty until I got sick. I don't think alot of woman do .These forums have so many stay at home moms it scares me .I want to save any body else from feeling crapped on by the goverment.

-- Patty {NY State} (fodfarms@hotmail.com), March 27, 2002.

See, for me it is just the opposite--I would never have expected the government to cover a non-paycheck-receiving spouse. While we know the value of staying home with our kids, the government could just as easily say, "nobody forced you to have kids". And, without proof of income, there is no objective way to even calculate benefits.

Part of this attitude (that the government is the last resort), also depends upon the upbringing people receive--many people have come to the conclusion that SS will not be there for them and have made other plans for financial security (if they get SS, it will be minimal), whereas many are still clinging to the mistaken notion that SS was going to take care of everything, soup to nuts, and they are going to be hurting when it comes time to retire.

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), March 27, 2002.


I need your help . I am hearing Impaired. I am single mother. I have five kids single mother. I have a hard time with the money. I wish i can make my kids happier. I m section eight from bernalillo county housing. My goal is buy the house but I have a bad credit about 1,500 dollars. Do you know where Can someone help me with to pay off the debt. I am worry because if my kids grow till 18 years old the bernalilo county housing will remove when my kids turn 18 years old. my kids s father never help the kids or there dont give them christmas nothing and birtday nothing. my kids have a hard time. I just feel bad for them.there are lucky to have a good father and have a house and no worry about that. I am single mother I need your help. I am depressioned. I born poor in my life and i try to my best for the kids.I have five kids but three father from in albuquerque who is never support with my kids . now i have two babies that he coming from mexico. he really love my kids but the problme he dont have no paper. I want him to coming home with us to support but He dont have no visa i need help please. I want my kids be happy to have nice home thank you so very much do you have any information where can i get the grant money for the kids sake. thank you have a nice day

-- Phyllis Maya (phillis_maya@yahoo.com), October 02, 2002.

I have about 9 injuries to my back.Like tonight its 2am.And the pain is so bad i am wishing nomatter what it takes ,for God to rid my pain.Heres the great part,My doctor had me on meds.Workmens Compensation has decided i dont need them.I set up clots and almost died.Comp wouldnt pay for my TED stockings,My coumadin.So how does workmens compdecide for your doctor?Ive wrote our governer ive wrote anyone who will listen to me and i am still in this shape.I am 35 female with 2 children.Barely able to take care of me and the kids.Much less cook clean.Cant draw my retirement .have been denied for that.What gets me I have worked since i was 12.Either cleaning houses ,babysitting.Then of age ive always worked,My last job was with the Pike county board of ed.Special education that caused my injuries.And i fell like ive been dumped.Who cares Nobody.Have been denied ssi 2 times.Law judge left me owing a 25,000.00 hospital bill for blood clots that 3 doctors agreed it was due to the immobility in my back.Still i am going to have to file med bankruptcy.Ruim my families dredit that we have worked so hard to keep good.Well hope ive not bored ya.But it feels good to write about this instead of like themlast 4 hrs,crying about it.between brick walls,pain and bills I do not know what else to do.Goodluck to all

-- Libby Boyd (crew@kymtnnet.org), October 06, 2002.

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