I heard something last week about this site and a friend sent it to me....I dunno. What do you think? I can't recall ever seeing any debris in the footage I saw, can you?

Where's the Boeing?

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), March 19, 2002

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thats intersting,,but from what I have heard,, from the folks working on the Pentagon,, there are pictures of plane peices,, but the plane had just about disntergrated on impact. Where it had it the building,, they had just finished reinforcing. Was supposed to be able to stop ANY car bomb from breaking thru the outer wall. I know specicically, the pic #4, is a raod they wrre building so the equipment would get stuck in the mud, a very common practice with large equipment. Even if the plane didnt hit the pentagon, then where is the "missing" plane ,, with all those people on it? Cnat hide a plane crash that size

-- Stan (sopal@net-pert.com), March 20, 2002.

Yeah. I'm just trying to remember if I ever saw any kind of debris from a plane there at all. I don't believe the entire plane would have disintegrated into nothing. I recall a phone interview with an "eye witness" who said the plane hit the ground prior to hitting the building, like a belly skid. I can figure that the wings were folded in so that can explain the dimension of the hole, but where is the bleeding wreckage?

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), March 20, 2002.

if I recall correctly,, that plane came from NJ,, so it had a FULL load of fuel, Id bet that most of the planed burned up,, I know the recovered some of it, in the second ring or so. Since the wings are mostly fuel tanks, ,they would have melted. And, still,, where did that plane go,, If it didnt hit the pentagon?

-- Stan (sopal@net-port.com), March 20, 2002.

They reported at the time of the impact that the plane had virtually disintegrated on impact, with only a small part of the fuselage still intact. Some of the people from other parts of the Pentagon had reportedly rushed to the area to see if there were any survivors. They reported none, but they said they could confirm the death of Barbara Olson, which would be in line with stories reported about her calling her husband on the cell phone. The plane was supposed to be flying at the maximum speed it could attain. I have no doubt the plane hit the Pentagon. My question was and still is......how come it was ABLE to hit the Pentagon when the powers that be already knew there had been two planes hijacked and crashed into the WTC? Why were the skies not so full of fighters this plane could not have ever gotten into the airspace? Also, there was originally damage reported to the State Department. There was live footage shown on TV of the building burning and people running out of it. It was originally reported that a car bomb had gone off immediately in front of the building. I never remember having seen it covered on any of the internet news services, and coverage of it disappeared altogether on TV. There was definitely something going on in that building that day though, as there was smoke billowing out from the windows on several different floors.

-- Green (ratdogs10@yahoo.com), March 20, 2002.

according to the BBC during at right after the plane episodes,, the reason they didnt shoot the pentagon plane down,, was the damage was estimated to be more if the plane landing in a populated area of D.C., so they pretty much escoprted into the pentagon

-- Stan (sopal@net-pert.com), March 20, 2002.

Ah yes! A nice one Doreen!

Take a look at picture associated with question 7, what is that blue truck burning to the right of the picture? It seems to be quite a distance from the building and up wind so why is it burning? Why does the truck appear to be down at the front? Has the front been blown off the truck?

Question 3 picture shows the truck wreckage after it was put out.

-- john hill (john@cnd.co.nz), March 20, 2002.

Anybody ever heard what happened to cause the WTC building 7 to collapse, hours after the twin towers?

-- joj (jump@off.c), March 20, 2002.

I honestly don't see how it could have disintegrated completely and still had positive identification on a passenger. Particularly considering the fact that metal is stronger than flesh and bone. just doesn't wash. I still want to know why it flew around for almost an hour when we knew we were under attack and the F 16's were scrambled in 4 1/2 minutes for that golfers plane that went off course a few years ago. I can't recall the name, but all those folks died...anyone remember?

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), March 21, 2002.

Stan, do you possibly have any links for those pics with some wreckage? I really would like to see them! Really, desperately, would like to see them.:|

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), March 21, 2002.

I saw films of fuel tests where a 747 turned to dust with no debris larger than a breadbox after hitting a bunker test barricade. The pentagon is the same type of structure.

-- Jay Blair in N. AL (jayblair678@yahoo.com), March 23, 2002.

Okay, so how do you get a positive id on a corpse when the plane has turned into dust? I would honestly like to see some photos with some debris. Bread box would be fine. I am not saying that it wasn't a plane, but a 757 is a very large plane, and if it did indeed hit in a belly skid prior to hitting the building there should have been something that was left. And if it didn't hit in a belly skid, then the hole should have been higher. I'd also be really happy to see a link or something regarding the films you saw, Jay.

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), March 24, 2002.

Some photos of the plane wreckage at the Pentagon....

www2.hawaii.edu/~julianr/index.html

-- Kathryn (wtaspi@yahoo.com), May 20, 2002.

Interesting. No debris, and they don't even know how to set the time and dates on the Federal Military Complex cameras...I feel safer already.

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), May 20, 2002.

My parents were there one week to the day after the "crash". They walked right up to the gaping whole and saw no plane wreckage. There were no security guards or policeman around at all. My God! You couldn't even get into parts of NYC for months. Also, we were inundated with live footage from tourists of the towers being struck. Not one time did they show footage from the Pentagon. You mean to tell me that the most toured city in our nation and not one piece of footage??? I will try and get the photos that I have seen from this "crash" and show how it could not have been a plane.

-- Michele Livingston (sinatracat_2000@yahoo.om), August 14, 2002.

One other thing...Check out the list of casualties from the Pentagon incident. Most of all were military personnel. Only a FEW were civilians and not enough to fill a plane.

-- Michele Livingston (sinatracat_2000@yahoo.om), August 14, 2002.

I've seen a bunch of photos about Pentagon incident, but not enough wreckage to add up a passenger jet. Moreover, the lawn before the hole showed no marks whatsoever of a plane of any kind landing on it. Also the damage caused to the building is way too narrow and way too deep to have been caused by a boeing (which is big, slow and soft), and more like by a kamikaze fighter, missile or such (small, fast and loaded with explosives). A passenger plane would have "splashed" against the wall, causing massive surfacial damage and a lake of burning fuel (bye bye lawn), but it couldn't have penetrated a building which was specifically designed to endure military scale attacks. Check the WTC collisions once more so you know what the Pentagon should've looked like if a boeing had crashed there.

About the missing flight 77, that's another issue altogether. I've thus far come up with these thoughts: first, the flight didn't exist at all, except in paper. This is possible, but difficult to perform. Someone might be able to check it up. Second, the plane was just wrecked someplace else, either before Pentagon incident, or afterwards. I've heard that there were plenty of time before, and plenty of general confusion after.

But whether it did exist or not, it did not end up in Pentagon. How could it penetrate several walls in one place, and fail to scratch the surface in another? Where are the tens of tons of scrapped aluminium and other stuff? The cars survived recognizable.

Should I gamble, I'd wager a fighter collision. I think that would fit quite nicely into the hole in uttermost wall. Deeper damage might have been caused by fighter's missiles and/or other weapons. Original fireball and following fire seem to go along with fighter's kerosene load.

But I don't gamble, so these are only theories, sustained with the same web stuff that anyone here can reach. Moreover, this particular piece of cover-up is not very emergent. It can be thoroughly investigated along with other "911" stuff, when the prime suspects have first been dropped from their thrones. Right now people should hurry to stop them making other crimes.

-- Alexandra H (katastrof@suomi24.fi), November 03, 2002.

www.serendipity.li/wtc.htm

A site that covers every aspect of the 9/11 conspiracy and leaves no questions unanswered.

Here's a question for you: Have you ever tried to make a cell phone call from 30,000 feet in the air (the cruising altitude of a passenger jet)? It doesn't work. You have to use the special satelite ohones on the back of the seat in front of you. YOU CANNOT GET SERVICE AT 30,000 FEET.

Funny how everyone on those planes did, though.

Remember that video that they showed on all the major networks on the afternoon of 9/11? The one with the Palestinians celebrating in the streets? In the video, it looked like it was taken somewhere between noon and 3:00 PM, when the sun was high overhead. Funny thing is, Palestine in 9 hours ahead of the U.S. That means that by the time the second plane hit the world trade center (must have been around...9:45, right?) it was 6:45 in Palestine. And it must have been even later when the news reached the average Palestinian. 6:45 in September would be at or just before sunset. The sun certainly wouldn't be high overhead. Conclusion: the video was taken before the first plane hit the world trade. It was probably footage of some other event that had happened before 9/11.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), December 04, 2003.