Pedophile Secrets in Jehovahs Witnesses

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I found this interesting article in a website and thought it would interest some of the secret dirt in the Jehovahs Witness organization. It is an example of the truth of what is actually happening in the rest of the world. My point here is Why are Catholics the only ones being persecuted when others are just as guilty? The article below is from former Jehovahs Witnesses:

Watchtower Policy on Pedophiles: What Needs to Change

1. Report matter to the police first.

What does the Watchtower say? Note the 97 WT on direction for reporting what is bad:

w97 8/15 26-30 Why Report What Is Bad? Appreciating the Value of Reproof Among Jehovah’s people, however, there is a different attitude toward reproof. Godly men and women deeply appreciate the arrangement Jehovah has made to help erring ones inside the Christian congregation. They recognize such discipline as an expression of his loving-kindness.—Hebrews 12:6-11.

What is that arrangement? Is it going to the police when a crime is committed?

In our day too, Jehovah’s servants can become involved in serious wrongdoing, even those who have been faithful for many years. Recognizing that the elders can assist, most take the initiative to approach them for help. (James 5:13-16) But sometimes a wrongdoer may try to cover up his sin, as did King David. What should we do if we come to know about serious wrongdoing in the congregation?

Whose Responsibility Is It?

When elders learn about serious wrongdoing, they approach the individual involved to give needed help and correction. It is the elders’ responsibility to judge such ones inside the Christian congregation. Keeping a close watch on its spiritual condition, they assist and admonish anyone who is taking an unwise or wrong step.—1 Corinthians 5:12, 13; 2 Timothy 4:2; 1 Peter 5:1, 2.

So does this just apply to slander of moral crimes committed by adults that break bible law? Notice the scripture used to define wrongdoing.

But what if you are not an elder and you come to know about some serious wrongdoing on the part of another Christian? Guidelines are found in the Law that Jehovah gave to the nation of Israel . The Law stated that if a person was a witness to apostate acts, sedition, murder, or certain other serious crimes, it was his responsibility to report it and to testify to what he knew. Leviticus 5:1 states: “Now in case a soul sins in that he has heard public cursing and he is a witness or he has seen it or has come to know of it, if he does not report it, then he must answer for his error.”—Compare Deuteronomy 13:6-8; Esther 6:2; Proverbs 29:24.

Though not under the Mosaic Law, Christians today can be guided by the principles behind it. (Psalm 19:7, 8) So if you learn about the serious wrongdoing of a fellow Christian, what should you do?

Where are we given the right here to call the police? Not one word offered. So who do you go to? See below.

Handling the Matter

First of all, it is important that there is valid reason to believe that serious wrongdoing has really occurred. “Do not become a witness against your fellowman without grounds,” stated the wise man. “Then you would have to be foolish with your lips.”—Proverbs 24:28.

You may decide to go directly to the elders. It is not wrong to do so. Usually, however, the most loving course is to approach the person involved. Perhaps the facts are not as they appear to be. Or perhaps the situation is already being handled by the elders. Calmly discuss the matter with the person. If there remains reason to believe that a serious wrong has been committed, encourage him or her to approach the elders for help, and explain the wisdom of doing so. Do not talk to others about the matter, for that would be gossip.

If the person does not report to the elders within a reasonable period of time, then you should. One or two elders will then discuss the matter with the accused. The elders need to “search and investigate and inquire thoroughly” to see if wrong has been done. If it has, they will handle the case according to Scriptural guidelines.—Deuteronomy 13:12 -14.

Who investigates the crime first? THE ELDERS! Yet still no mention of going to the police. Then if there are only one witness what do you have to do? Report it to police then? See Below.

At least two witnesses are required to establish a charge of wrongdoing. (John 8:17; Hebrews 10:28) If the person denies the charge and your testimony is the only one, the matter will be left in Jehovah’s hands. (1 Timothy 5:19, 24, 25) This is done in the knowledge that all things are “openly exposed” to Jehovah and that if the person is guilty, eventually his sins will “catch up” with him.—Hebrews 4:13 ; Numbers 32:23.

There you have it the basis of discouraging victims to go to the police. They are clearly instructed to leave it in Jehovah’s hands. That means do nothing. Can you warn any other parents whose children may be in harms way? See Below.

But suppose the person does deny the charge and you are the only witness against him. Could you now be open to a countercharge of slander? No, not unless you have gossiped to those not involved in the matter. It is not slanderous to report conditions affecting a congregation to those having authority and responsibility to oversee and correct matters. It is, in fact, in line with our desire always to do what is correct and loyal.—Compare Luke 1:74, 75.

So if you gossip and tell others about your child being molested you could be charged with slander and expelled from the congregation. What is the reason why? See Below.

Maintaining Holiness in the Congregation

One reason for reporting wrongdoing is that it works to preserve the cleanness of the congregation. Jehovah is a clean God, a holy God. He requires all those who worship him to be spiritually and morally clean. His inspired Word admonishes: “As obedient children, quit being fashioned according to the desires you formerly had in your ignorance, but, in accord with the Holy One who called you, do you also become holy yourselves in all your conduct, because it is written: ‘You must be holy, because I am holy.’” (1 Peter 1:14-16) Individuals who practice uncleanness or wrongdoing can bring defilement and Jehovah’s disfavor upon an entire congregation unless action is taken to correct or remove them.—Compare Joshua, chapter 7.

The congregation does their own dirty laundry and keeps outsiders uninformed. This is the basis of how the congregation operates. Jehovah’s Witnesses are NOT free to go to the police. They are required to OBEY the direction of the elders. If they do not they are disfellowshipped. Thus Watchtower Policy requires a child molestation victim to go to the ELDERS FIRST and this is the error of WT policy.

2. A pedophile should never hold a position of responsibility within the congregation.

The 1-1-97 Watchtower seemed to indicate this would be the policy for Jehovah’s Witnesses, yet in just three short months a letter was sent (along with more to follow) to Bodies of Elders that changed that policy. The 97 letter stated:

“It may be possible that some who were guilty of child molestation were or are now serving as elders, ministerial servants, or regular or special pioneers. Others may have been guilty of child molestation before they were baptized. The bodies of elders should not query individuals.”

This statement made provision for pedophile to continue to serve. That was further collaborated by the 6-1-01 letter to Bodies of Elders in England which states:

“There is one exception to the above direction: The elders may have written to the branch office and given full details about a former child abuser who is currently serving as an elder or ministerial servant. In such a case, if the branch office has decided that he can be appointed or continue serving in a position of trust because the sin occurred many years ago and because he has lived an exemplary life since then, his name should not appear on the List, nor is it necessary to pass on information about the brother’s past sin if he moves to another congregation unless contrary instructions have been given by the branch.”

Child Molesters are clearly given positions of responsibility within the congregation at the direction of WT Policy. Time passing should be no factor for a pedophile.

3. Child molesters should never be allowed to participate in the door to door ministry.

Is this WT policy? Please note the 1-1-97 Watchtower which initially established molester policy. What would a child molester who is newly released from prison be required to do to show his repentance? See Below.

w97 1/1 29 Let Us Abhor What Is Wicked ”Depending on the law of the land where he lives, the molester may well have to serve a prison term or face other sanctions from the State…’If he seems to be repentant, he will be encouraged to make spiritual progress, share in the field service..”

A newly released child molester is required by WT Policy to call at the homes of the unknowing public. THAT IS WT POLICY!

This information shows without doubt something is terribly wrong in this matter. This “Policy” presents a danger to children within the organization as well as those who are met in the door to door work. If the Governing Body really wishes to be a “faithful slave” they should move at ONCE to correct this mistake and protect the children.

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silentlambs



-- Fred Bishop (fcbishop@globaleyes.net), March 16, 2002

Answers

More facts for all to read.

God Help Us in Your Infinite Mercy

-- Fred Bishop (fcbishop@globaleyes.net), March 16, 2002.


Fred,

Since you brought the subject up. Maybe you would be interested in this artical: http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/072/metro/All_faiths_question_handli ng_of_abuse.

-- eyes wide open (truth@exposed.com), March 16, 2002.


To Whomever

The article you gave me has absolutely no real information and appears to be rather predudicial in nature. There was no real attempt to gain unbiased information by the reporter of the article and you and I know well that no one will let out secrets in any fashion on this issue. The truth remains is that the other Churches and Religious organizations WILL NOT tell the full truth and we all know it well. The truth is quite clear that we Catholics have been used as scapegoats by the other Churches and the media. The article on the abuses in the JW's I presented is a clear example of the truth and what is happening.

There have been numerous cases of ministers and church leaders of other faiths having been found involved in sexual abuse in many various degrees, yet the press will not print them and the Churches also hide them well with the threats of "Excommunication" as a method to prevent the truth from coming out. The article I presented from the Web on the JW's clearly show this practice.

-- Fred Bishop (fcbishop@globaleyes.net), March 16, 2002.


Fred,
I must warn you that as Catholics we have no need to lay any sins at the door of other churches (even false churches)-- least of all sins which have taken place in our own house. The fact others are guilty too doesn't excuse us, and we must let God deal with the other offenders.

There is a sin known as detraction, spreading word of the faults of another man. It offends God even when the one detracted against is deserving of it. We are to see our OWN faults and not speak against others. God will be their judge.

As for the plain fact that Catholic priests are unjustly singled out for castigation in the present matter; we ought to accept it with grace. It's a trial the Church must go through and rise above. Which she WILL.

Let's pray that all sins of detraction may be against US-- and that none of us will ever resort to mud-slinging. We have no one to answer to except God. He will not fail us, if we just have faith in Him. I myself am offering my own participation in today's Mass as a profound act of humility and penitence before the altar of the Lord. United to the infinite merits of Our Lord Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament, I hope this will help to appease God's anger. May He have mercy on all of us.

-- eugene c. chavez (chavezec@pacbell.net), March 16, 2002.


Gene

I only presented this article to prove tous that we are not the only ones with the problem. I guess I may have erred in presenting this in the wrong light, but in order for me to learn I have to take risks in order to learn. The information you gave me is valuable and I thank you ..GOD BLESS.

PS. If you think this should be removed then by all means let the Moderator do so. AGAIN THANKS.

-- Fred Bishop (fcbishop@globaleyes.net), March 16, 2002.



Good for you Eugene in stopping the slander of other Churchs as God's rain falls on both sinner and saint.

-- Jean Bouchard (jeanb@cwk.imag.net), March 17, 2002.

Slander is telling lies about others. Detraction is the act of holding someone up to scorn. The cheap shot I see all others taking against the Church, for instance. But just because they do it to you is no reason to commit the same fault. That is what Jesus really meant by ''turn the other cheek''. Speak no evil of our neighbor, even the offensive one.

Jesus did not ''turn the other cheek'' in His personal dealings. When He was struck in the face during the trial before the High priest, Jesus objected strenuously. (Jn 18:23) ''If I have spoken ill, bear witness to the evil; but if well, why dost thou strike me?''

-- eugene c. chavez (chavezec@pacbell.net), March 17, 2002.


Now pedophilia is no more of a sin then sex before marriage, the bible never lay down the ground of a child to consent or the age it shall be married, the Toran however said that 8 is the least age to be wed.

-- Tony (awalker@teknett.com), April 14, 2002.

"Speak no evil of our neighbor, even the offensive one."

Kind of hard with the culture and ignorants in todays society, don't you think ?

-- Tony (awalker@teknett.com), April 15, 2002.


Brother Fred

My ex-wife claims to be a JW and at this time has kept our daughter from me for (4) years. Is this keeping with the faith or could this be classified as child abuse? Where do we draw the line between child abuse and child molestation? She has and continually being denied the right to have a loving relationship with her own loving father. I consider this to be a domestic terrorist attack on our children. As a complete stranger to me I am seeking your opinion. Tell me if my way of thinking is unrealistic.

Sincerely Todd Gabel

PS. Do you know anybody with the love and compassion in their heart who can help this poor little hostage? I know in my heart she wants for the warmth of her daddys love. Her name is Josie and she needs me as much as her mother.

-- TODD GABEL (LOXCANOE@AOL.COM), December 10, 2002.



Todd, the gentleman you addressed, Fred Bishop, is now among the faithful departed. May he rest in peace.

I am praying for you and Josie.

You referred to your "ex-wife," indicating that you had been divorced. Surely, as part of the divorce, the judge/referee declared provisions involving parental visitation, no? Perhaps, due to very unusual circumstances, you were not given permission ever to see your daughter? If that is true, there is nothing you can do except perhaps appeal the ruling. But if you were given visitation rights, then your ex-wife is violating the law, and you can (and should) take her to court.

I would like for you to be able to see your daughter, so that you can introduce her to Catholicism, take her to Mass, let her sit with Jesus, etc.. She is in a very poor environment, if your ex-wife is deeply involved in the Jehovah's Witnesses.

God bless you.
John

-- J. F. Gecik (jfgecik@hotmail.com), December 13, 2002.


You are all a bunch of apostates! And most of you know what will happen to you at Armageddon.

-- (mercury123@hotmail.com), January 20, 2003.

I don't have anything better to do so I'm writing in here as well. Go Lakers!!

-- J W (hello@dueshbags.com), February 08, 2003.

seems perfectly judicially balanced to me that two rather than one witness be required before concluding guilt,and who but god can keep a constant eye on those who (given a second chance)prefer to return to their previous deviances.Bye the way i don't see any indication from your posting to indicate that people PROVEN to be breaking the laws of our government are not turned into the police.

-- just my opinion (bristegroup@on.aibn), February 17, 2003.

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