Can Evolution stand up to the thinking man? : LUSENET : ACountryPlace : One Thread

I don't think so! The fossil record doesn't bear it out. The unfettered mind cannot tolerate it. The complexity of the earth proves that Evolution is nothing more than an elaborate lie. More later.

Little Bit Farm

-- Little bit Farm (, March 09, 2002


Have you been watching Dr. Hovind tapes??? I agree with you.

-- Kristean Thompson (, March 09, 2002.

Actually I've been listening to a Hank Hanagraf(sp?) Book on tape. It is very good. I'll try to post the name later.

Little Bit Farm

-- Little bit Farm (, March 09, 2002.

I've never been accused of being "a thinking man", but Our marvelous world is so intricate and precise. So perfect in it's interweaving of systems. Random chance? Can't buy it. The periodic table lists what? 118 elements? Out of those everything is created. Think of that. EVERYTHING. It all works so beautifully and ORDERLY. Gotta believe there was a plan.

-- John in S. IN (, March 09, 2002.

After I saw the fossil that showed a human footprint ON TOP of a dinosaur print all scientific THEORIES on evolution are off.

-- Bob in WI (, March 10, 2002.

Evolution and religion are alike in that they both require a leap of faith.

Talk to you later.

-- Bob in WI (, March 10, 2002.

Hello Folks, Have you ever thought that there is more to our origin than just evolution or creativism? Have you ever thought that we could quite possibly be the seed of a race of extraterrestials? I have and there is so much evidence pointing in that direction that it can not be overlooked as a possiblity!

1/2 million year old batteries have been found in mines that were nearly a mile deep in the earth. Drawings by the Sumerians in the civilization of Ur have strong resemblences to space craft and men wearing flight suits. The pyramids are coated with a thick layer of phosourous that glows and is visible from high altitudes. Outlines of runways in regions of Central America are also visible from high altitudes, despite the jungle comsuming them.

It is possible that the extraterrestials came in a group of 12, explaining the 12 Gods of Egypt, Greece, and Rome. These extraterrestials may have come here with intentions of only exploration but, upon their arrival they may have discovered that it was a better life here than on their planet. It would be better to be a God on a distant planet, than just a regular person on your own planet.

There are Giants in the Old Testament that if taken literally, (as the bible usually is) that are unexplained as to their origins. There is evidence that Noah was the great grandson of one of these giants. Could these Giants be the extraterrestials? Could it had been their influence that prompted Noah to build the Ark?

Noah, heeding the warning that his great grand father gave him quickly built an ark to save a portion of the animals on this planet. I am sure that the Giants would know of an upcoming disaster and would have warned their families of the event, just before they themselves left back to their home planet.

I do not think it is always black or white. I believe that there is grey in between. That is why I can not just accept evolution or just accept creativism. I believe the grey is probably more close to reality that the rest.



-- (, March 10, 2002.


Have you read the Erich Von Daniken books? ie. Chariots of the Gods. If this is not where you got your information you would probably enjoy reading these books.

Talk to you later.

-- Bob in WI (, March 11, 2002.

Well,OK, Who created the aliens?

-- Daryll in NW FLA (, March 11, 2002.

Good question Daryl!

-- gloria (, March 12, 2002.

This is an interesting string. I once saw Von Danican (sorry about the spelling)and it was interesting, have read the books, and seen tv shows about this. Also, how Ezikel describes things that sound remarkably like space ships.

But, I do believe in God and the Bible, etc. But, there is one question I have not had the never to ask a "religious" person. Since God created us - who created him and where was he and his background. The Bible does say He is the beginning and the end, and for us - okay. But before that?


-- AngieM2 (, March 12, 2002.


No one created God he was always there. We, as humans,exist in the stream of time, but God is timeless. He exists outside of time, which makes him eternal.

-- Bob in WI (, March 12, 2002.

If we evolved from apes, then why are there still apes?

-- mitch hearn (, March 17, 2002.

Hello Folks,

Why must there even be a creator?



-- (, March 19, 2002.

Here is a nice link for helping to answer your question. Much of the first part is introduction, keep reading for the meat.

There is no "why must there be..." with God. Why must you exist? You either exist or you don't.

Did Leonardo Da Vinci exist? Yes? How do you know? Witnesses? Yes there were witnesses. There have also been many witnesses to the existence of God down through the years. It's not the same, you say. What about Da Vincis work, you say. Ahh yes, what about those tremendous works of art? As great as Da Vinci was, not one of his works even comes close to the detail of the human eye.

Not one of his works can be compared to any of the infinite number of systems at work right now on and off our planet.

We look at the painting of the Lord's Supper and we say to ourselves, yes, Da Vinci existed. But so many people here on earth view the work of the Creator God all around them, and ask the question "Why must a creator exist?". If I was to come to you one day and present my case that Leonardo Da Vinci never existed; If I told you that his painting had happened by random chance; If I told you that they were the product of "Cumulative Natural Selection"; If I told you that once in a sea of paint to tiny paint molecules got together and threw themselves at the wall in the Convent of Santa Maria delle grazie, and then I told you that more and more of those droplets of paint threw themselves at the wall eventually painting "The Last Supper", Would this make sense??? NO? Well the fact that someone could deny the existence of a creator is the same as saying that millions of "The Last Supper" paintings somehow formed by themselves. God Exists!!! His creation shouts it out to everyone everyday. Can Evolution stand up to the thinking Man??? No!!! It Cannot!!! It can however stand up to the mind under deception. The mind who chooses to believe in millions of "The Last Supper" painting themselves. Why do these minds choose to believe a lie rather than truth? Because, believing the truth means that their souls must recognize that there is a God that they owe their lives to, and that they must be subject to.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Little Bit Farm

-- Little bit Farm (, March 21, 2002.

We serve the creator by loving the creation. I'm with ernest on this. To me its seems not unlikely that God is nature, more specifically the laws that govern nature.

-- john (, March 22, 2002.

Hello LBF,

I believe that Da Vinci was a space alien dropped along with several others to help save the earth from its destruction by the inquisitions. For it was people like himself that pulled us out of the "DARK AGES" where everything was controlled by the "CHURCH" into the Age of Enlightenment.

The Last Supper was painted by Da Vinci but, CHRISTIANS created a superstition about the painting when they saw that Judas had knocked over the SALT on the table. Now, superstitious people who knock over the salt shaker will throw a little over their shoulder for good LUCK.

Your analogy, however is good. But, why do you have to go all the way to convince (me) someone that GOD exists?



-- (, March 23, 2002.

In answer to your question Ernest, here's why.

Matthew 28

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Little Bit Farm

-- Little bit Farm (, March 23, 2002.

it's interesting that the complexity of earth is used to defeat the idea of evolution....but it makes more sense to you to just say "yeah it was created by this god"

that's not much more informative or in depth

from what i see here, neither evolution nor creation can stand up to the "thinking man"

-- marc cody (, July 12, 2002.

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