What role (if any)do you think that religion and/or God played in the forming of the U.S. Constitution?

-- peter kramer (pkramer5m@aol.com), March 02, 2002

Answers

That is a very interesting question. At the time of the Constitution, most states had official or semi-official churches. The Constitution doesn't mention much about religion, so it left these issues up to individual states.

It isn't true that most of the founders were deists. Most belonged to orthodox churches. On the other hand, I don't know how many were believers in a traditional sense.

-- Steve Jackson (stevej100@hotmail.com), March 02, 2002.

You both are kidding, right?

-- travel (travel@dellmail.com), March 03, 2002.

The US constitution is the rights that God gave us, however, socialist had killed it and instead we are left to a Democracy. Democracy, is EVIL, true Democracy is even worst.

-- Tony (awalker@teknett.com), May 06, 2002.

Yet democracy is the creation of Man with the graces of GOD to help him create it. Now what is it that you cannot understand about that one. We as a forum should be thinking along spiritual matters not of secular.

-- Fred Bishop (fcbishop@globaleyes.net), May 06, 2002.

This isn't a Democracy, this is a republic, a society of Democracy will lead tour Authoritaran, really, it's already happening.

-- Tony (awalker@teknett.com), May 09, 2002.

Tony

Prove your knowledgeof the US political system. You do not have a clue as to what constitutes a Republic or a Remocracy. Is a Democratic system a 2 or more party system and a Republic not or is it a form of democracy too? You tell us all about it. I think you need to study about it prior to speaking on it first. Gee I must have missed a few lessons during my school days. Will be back.

-- Fred Bishop (fcbishop@globaleyes.net), May 09, 2002.

OOPs too many messes onmy last post. Remocracy should be Democracy.

From what I can fathom the difference of the Republic system of government and Democratic is very little. Could the fact the ruling party os the Parliament be the one who has the choice of who the president or prime minister will be? That is the only difference I can see. We as a people elect the President in a Democracy. I am hoping that I am basically on target. What do you think?

-- Fred Bishop (fcbishop@globaleyes.net), May 09, 2002.

Jeeze you talk alot, well here's the facts.

"The base of power was to remain in WE THE PEOPLE but unfortunately, it was lost to those leaders acting in the name of government, such as politicians, bureaucrats, judges, lawyers, etc.

As a result America began to function like a democracy instead of a REPUBLIC. A democracy is dangerous because it is a one-vote system as opposed to a Republic, which is a three-vote system. Three votes to check tyranny, not just one. American Citizens have not been informed of their other two votes.

Our first vote is at the polls on election day when we pick those who are to represent us in the seats of government. But what can be done if those elected officials just don't perform as promised or expected? Well, the second two votes are the most effective means by which the common people of any nation on earth have ever had in controlling those appointed to serve them in government.

The second vote comes when you serve on a Grand Jury. Before anyone can be brought to trial for a capital or infamous crime by those acting in the name of government, permission must be obtained from people serving on the Grand Jury! The Minneapolis Star and Tribune in the March 27th 1987 edition noted a purpose of the Grand Jury this way: "A grand jury's purpose is to protect the public from an overzealous prosecutor."

The third is the most powerful vote; this is when you are acting as a jury member during a courtroom trial. At this point, "the buck stops" with you! It is in this setting that each JUROR has MORE POWER than the President, all of Congress, and all of the judges combined! Congress can legislate (make law), the President or some other bureaucrat can make an order or issue regulations, and judges may instruct or make a decision, but no JUROR can ever be punished for voting "Not Guilty!" Any JUROR can, with impunity, choose to disregard the instructions of any judge or attorney in rendering his vote. If only one JUROR should vote "Not Guilty" for any reason, there is no conviction and no punishment at the end of the trial. Thus, those acting in the name of government must come before the common man to get permission to enforce a law."

Well, there it is, I hope it helps

-- Tony (awalker@teknett.com), May 09, 2002.