Minute's silence

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-- Anonymous, February 09, 2002

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Things a bit slow in RTD, Barry?

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

Apparently Gordon's Gin are sponsoring the hearse, and Rothmans the coffin

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

I've been dying to get this off my chest. A minute's silence for Margaret? That woman was a big time party girl, a big drinker and heavy smoker who had affairs with some odd people. She had one big love affair who everyone says was 'tragic', with Townsend. Well, as she herself said when she issued a statement about calling off the affair, she had to make a choice between remaining a princess or marrying him as a commoner, like her uncle did with Wallace Simpson.

She decided not to give up the good life for love. That's not tragedy.

A minute's silence for that drunken old tart was ludicrous. We'll be having one when a fucking corgi dies next.

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002


hey don't talk about the dog in that tone of voice

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

Couldn't agree more. Just another old lady who I didn't know at all popping her clogs as far as I'm concerned. Sad when someone dies, but thousands of other people I don't know die every day & we don't have a minutes silence for them. I'm at something of a loss to understand why I'm supposed to feel grief at her passing. I'm not aware of her doing anything of particular note in any field to warrant our respect and certainly not to take up a minute of my time. Makes me sound very mean I know, but that's how I feel.

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002


Peter Sellars was reported to have said that she gave him the best blwo job of his life, allegedly

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

Mind I didn't know she'd had an affair with Andy Townsend. She was right though, common as muck.....

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

Not sure what the problem is. All the royals who are not directly in line to the throne (i.e. Charlie and kids) are all party people. In anything, Margaret was the archetypal royal: living the life that her forbears stole, murdered or bought for her and her kind. The fact that ANY of the royals (one of the biggest and wealthiest land owners in their own right in the UK) are on the civil list is a disgrace.

However, if I was in a similar position (i.e. all the priviledge and trappings of having a fat wedge of cash behind me), I'd probably do the same as her - get pissed, play the ponies and throw parties for the international jetset. I never really despised her since she at least never pretended to be anything other than the 'good-time girl'. Not the glaring hypocrit you may find in, say, Diana, Fergie, Andrew, Sophie etc.

And let's face it, the Queen Mum (gawd bless 'er) has mostly lived the same kind of lifestyle, if a little more reserved in her sexual activity...allegedly. Of course, she won't get that kind of slating when she finally makes the 3.15 race meeting from Heaven's Gate ("I'll have a fiver on Lucky Jim and large gin").

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002


ever the iconoclast, Bobby.

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

Don't bother with the minute's silence if you don't fancy it...no need to get upset by other people doing it though...

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002


I had a few beers on a number of occasions with the obituaries editor from the Guardian. He reckons UK might even have TWO public holidays when she carcs it. I'll have to make sure I'm back in the UK some time around 2025...

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

All very well, but people get pretty upset when you disturb their minutes silence.

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

That's their problem :))

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

Depends how upset they get!

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

When are we supposed to be observing this minute?

ps - despite my republican beliefs, I have no problem in others taking a minute to mourn, and I intend to respect their beliefs.

pps - ok, now let's storm Buck House and give the Windsors a taste of Bolshevik justice! The French had the right idea etc etc ;-)

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002



It was at last Saturday's Southampton match - one minute's silence before the game Bobby. I stongly disagreed but I'm not going to make noise just to show I think it's wrong. Besides, Bobby's in line for the knighthood so just as well to avoid pissing off the royals at this moment!

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

What a fuss about a little respect being shown for a death

Her party life, alcohol consumption etc get mentioned. Extraordinary. Let he who is without sin... etc. For those of you who know nothing about this lady apart from what you have read in the tabloids, the appropriate response would be to maintain a respectful silence. Many have commented in recent days about her good works for charity and the like. The tabloids will never tell you the full story.

Monarchy is obviously an anachronism in our modern society and quite what we do with it is moot (scrap it? - modernise it? - elect it?) I don't have a view on the subject quite frankly. The fact remains that for now, that is the system we have. The Queen IMHO is a splendid individual who has worked tirelessly to perform her role and to change to whatever the people require. I've heard it said that she has been a great servant to this country - I thought the idea was that we are supposed to serve the monarch. :-)

There are those who would wish to get rid of the monarchy. Fair enough. This is a democracy and if that's what the people want, it will happen in time. Regardless, there's surely no harm in observing a minute's silence for the loss of the sister of our head of state.

As a footnote, and not related to the above, I'll just mention that Margaret was the Chancellor of Keele University and thus conferred my degree on me back in 1979. I don't suppose she remembered me though. :-)

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

"Let he who is without sin... etc"

Yes, but I don't expect a minute's silence from every football ground in the coutry when I pop off. That's the difference.

I'm not having a go at her. I'm not having a go at the royals. I'm not showing disrespect. I just think that IMHO a minute's silence should be saved for tragedys that are important, like Hillsborough or Sept 11 or rememberance Sunday, or when someone dies who's passing really means something.

It seems as though we have a minute's silence for anyone nowadays, which detracts from the gravitas and the thought behind the gesture.

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002


Was it the Royal Family who requested the minutes silence, or the sycophants at the FA? All in all the media grossly overinflated the importance of the event - most people I think were respectful but certainly not grief stricken by any stretch of the imagination. She was no doubt a glamorous personality in her day, but all in all an irrelevance to most people. Besides, she lived to a fairly ripe old age anyway. If the media had taken the same low key approach that the Queen seems to have done, it wouldn't have raised so many eyebrows.

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

why Sept 11?

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

Dunno if you're being serious there Geordie?

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

I am

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

A minute's silence for that drunken old tart

I'm not showing disrespect.

Huh? :-)

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

which bit of "drunken" and "old" and "tart" is inappropriate ? I suppose she isn't as old as her mother

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

Do you mean, Geordie, why should the terrorist attacks in America last year be commemorated, and equally shocking events in, say Rwanda or former Yugoslavia or East Timor, are not?

If so (or not), I have sympathy with that opinion, but the sin in not commemorating the victims of brutality at all is surely greater.

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002


I'd gladly give my respects to Rwanda, or former Yugoslavia or East Timor. Doesn't detract from how we (all of us I seem to remember) felt on here last September, and how we didn't feel like even talking about football for a few days. The silence before the match v Man U was emotional, and meant something, to me if not to others. The silence last Saturday was cos we'd been told to.

I bet very very few in the stadium used the minute to think about the deceased and her life and achievements. Surely this is the point? To use that time to pay silent tribute?

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002


One thing I will say about this. I stood through an almost perfect minute's silence at SJP with 51,000 on Saturday. Less than half that number had serious difficulty keeping their gobs shut at the Britannia Stadium on Sunday.

We may not have thought it was necessary but I know which of those two occasions reflected better on the people involved. Well done the Geordies!

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002


Well said Jacko. It didn`t hurt anyone either did it? This woman`s not in her grave yet and some of you have set about tearing her to shreds like hungry dogs! Prince or pauper - she was still a fellow human being, and IMHO deserves a bit of decency.

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

Oh Lord I do sound pompous sometimes! Don`t mean to - I guess I`m just old-fashioned.(:o|

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

Leave off the "-fashioned.(:o|" bit and I'll join you!

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

Hey...........girl power!!!! (;o)

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002

Well done Barry

Your minutes silence lasted three days until it exploded into uproar.

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2002


She'll never be settled in her grave...she's getting a toasting down Slough Crematorium.

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2002

Can't see what the fuss is about. If someone asks me to observe a minutes silence because someone had died. I would do so out of rescpect. The woman wasn't evil, and She carried out all her Royal duties. Whether you value the monarchy or not, we are still a monarchy at present

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2002

Those Royal duties in full:

1. Ski
2. Walk slowly
3. Shake hands with people
4. Say 'And what do you so?'
5. Ski
6. erm
7. Say 'How very interesting'
8. ...that's it

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2002


Bobby... exactly!

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2002

Look I'm not saying I thought She was wonderful, but I do know that my Mam's generation held her in great esteem. Or at least My Mam does ;-) I was surprised to be asked to observe the minutes silence, but was pleased under the circumstances that it was respected so well at SJP.

My hubby was at Pride Park watching the Makems he said it didn't even last 20 seconds !

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2002


missing the liverpool because Di died then having the media telling me i was mourning was hard to take. i think in all the fuss at the 'events' they forgot M.Teresa had died. typical.

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2002

Have to say that despite my opinions, I was impressed to hear of the manner in which the requested silence was respected at SJP. It's a matter of pride that such a request is honoured.

But don't even start me off on Dodi-Di-Day...f**kin' hell!

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2002


Oh come on bobby, her single was not that bad, even emenem liked it!

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2002

eminem likes Doris Day?

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2002

When Princess Anne dies they will hold a minute's silence at every rugby union ground in the country. That's because she has been the patron of the Scottish RFU for decades and never misses an international. When they pick on football fans to commemorate people with no links to football then it gets on my wick. We aren't there because we are a cross-section of society, it's because we are the minority of fools who aren't prepared to follow the footie on the telly but actually have to be there. I felt compelled to show my grief and respect to those killed on September 11 as they were ordinary people who could have been anyone, including fellow football fans, being the Queen's sister is not a role I can realistically aspire to and I never bumped into her in the Strawberry.

Saying that, I observed the silence impeccably, just with ill humour.

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2002


"Saying that, I observed the silence impeccably, just with ill humour. "

That's what I was trying to say but couldn't put it as eloquently.

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2002


Was it an imbalance in your yellow humours? Perhaps a dose of leeches or molten zinc? Ah, no...bleeding!

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2002

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