Chemtrails are being used to deter global warminggreenspun.com : LUSENET : Unk's Troll-free Private Saloon : One Thread
People have been wondering for several years what they are all about, and why the government is being so secretive about spraying these sun-reflective particulates throughout the stratosphere.
A proposal was written in 1997 by none other than the father of the H-Bomb, Edward Teller, on low-cost methods of deterring the effects of global warming. It is easy to see that his suggestions about scattering particulates in the stratosphere is exactly what the government elected to do a short time after he proposed this idea.
The reason they are keeping it secret is because they are afraid there will be a horrendous reaction from the people if they were to discover that global warming is such a serious problem that the government has begun to try to reduce it. In the near future, either the problem will be become so severe or the amount of scattering taking place will become so obvious that the true nature of the problem will be exposed.
I only wonder if this technique is actually helping to alleviate the problem or if it could be making matters worse, which could explain some of the very unusual weather occurrences we have witnessed over the last few years.
With our government becoming so desperate that they are now using ideas suggested by the creator of the H-Bomb, I can only say, God Help Us All.
-- (email@example.com), January 09, 2002
"It is easy to see..."
Then why can't I see it? Where should I look?
-- Little Nipper (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 09, 2002.
Try looking up, instead of down like all the other good submissive gubmint sheeples.
-- (closed minds @ cannot. see), January 09, 2002.
"When our government becoming so desperate that they are now using ideas suggested by the creator of the H-Bomb, I can only say, God Help Us All. "
His H-bomb idea worked, so they asked him for another idea.
-- helen (email@example.com), January 09, 2002.
Ok. I looked up, as per instructions. I saw the ceiling. How is that supposed to enlighten me about the actions of the government?
-- Little Nipper (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 10, 2002.
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
is also great and would suffice.
-- (Robt Frost @ Fire.Ice), January 10, 2002.
Um, Little Dipper,
If you are so focused on the heavens that your very forum name would indicate links to the North Star (ok, maybe the North dog Star ...), looking up should be second nature to your insight.
-- Oxy (Oxsys@aol.com), January 10, 2002.
Okay LN, hah hah hah, yeah, you're real funny. Automatically anyone who talks about chemtrails is out of their mind, ridicule them, make jokes, yada yada yada, yeah I've heard it all. I realize there are a good number of people who are too ignorant to read or too afraid to believe what they see, so those people can continue to be ignorant and make jokes, hah hah hah. Please continue amusing yourself, I've already heard it all.
-- (email@example.com), January 10, 2002.
"Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice."
The wonderful irony of global warming is that it will actually end with both simultaneously. LOL, not even Robert Frost ever imagined that!
-- (LOL@gotta.luvit!), January 10, 2002.
Um, did you take a wrong turn?
-- (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 10, 2002.
Oh, sorry. Guess you're right. I forgot, this is the board where we are only allowed to talk about the latest worthless tidbit of boring news that Lars was able to dig up. Excuuuuuuuuuuuuse meeeeeeeee!
-- (email@example.com), January 10, 2002.
goodbye blue sky -- the first time I noticed criss-cross jet contrails was in 1985, when we were messing with Libya. I figured it had something to do with national security. I've seen quite a bit more of it since then, but it always tends to happen when we're on high alert. Maybe we've been on high alert an awful lot in the last twenty years.
-- helen (firstname.lastname@example.org!), January 10, 2002.
Somehow you've managed to roll two fictions into one. Congratulations!
-- Buddy (email@example.com), January 10, 2002.
The reason they are keeping it secret is because they are afraid there will be a horrendous reaction from the people if they were to discover that global warming is such a serious problem that the government has begun to try to reduce it.
Thanks for the clarification. I thought they contained barium salts, human blood cells, a virus, here and there, and pathogenic bacteria. I, also thought, that they were being sprayed at low altitude to decrease the population. Must be more than one type.
LN: Very funny; you need to go outside. Here, the sky is totally covered with chemtrails today. You can only see this gray, leadened expanse. There was liquid falling from the chemtrails. Doubters would call that rain; but not me; obviously those toxic do-dads. Thirty minutes ago, a white crystalline substance began falling. Probably the barium salts. Strange salts though; they melt if you hold them in your hand. I will report further as the barium salts begin to accumulate on the ground. ;o)))
-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), January 10, 2002.
Automatically anyone who talks about chemtrails is out of their mind, ridicule them, make jokes, yada yada yada, yeah I've heard it all. I realize there are a good number of people who are too ignorant to read or too afraid to believe what they see
"goodbye blue sky", I did not say you are out of your mind. And, yes, I was ridiculing you - but not for the reason you believe.
Long ago, during the Watergate hearings, before president Nixon resigned, there was an infamous incident where the House Judiciary Committee subpoenaed one of the White House tapes and discovered an eighteen minute gap of silence where the contents had been erased. This was explained away by Rosemary Woods, Nixon's private secretary, as an accident during transcription. She maintained that she had turned to answer the phone while continuing to operate the tape machine with a foot pedal. Somehow, she erased the tape during that interval.
The press did not call Rosemary Woods "out of her mind" or even a liar. They simply asked her to demonstrate what she said happened. Then they took a photograph and published it. It showed Rosemary Woods with her ear to the phone, stretching her body almost horizontal, and the tip of one toe pressed on the foot pedal. Her explanation fell apart all on its own.
Similarly, I noticed a very huge gap in your explanation of chemtrails. I don't have to follow your link to accept that Edward Teller proposed what you say he proposed. I accept that without even looking.
However, from that one fact you made the hug leap across a chasm of inference. You said, "It is easy to see that his suggestions about scattering particulates in the stratosphere is exactly what the government elected to do a short time after he proposed this idea" (italics mine).
I simply pointed out this gap and asked you to fill it in. You provided the equivalent of a Rosemary Woods answer. It deserved ridicule.
Fill that gap with sound, verifiable evidence and I will accept your explanation without cavil or quibble. Continue to give lame answers such as "look up" and expect to be further ridiculed.
NB: Bad logic is not evidence of madness. It is evidence of inattention. Failing to pay attention after your attention is drawn to your bad logic is also not evidence of madness. It is evidence of incurable, invincible ignorance.
-- Little Nipper (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 10, 2002.
Well, I promised to report further but I can't. As soon as I posted the barium salts stopped falling from the chemtrails. It is obvious that TPTB moniter this site and stopped them immediately. That is the price that we pay for being out in front. More suprisingly, the barium salts that were on the ground disappeared. They could have used EMP or low frequency impulses to destroy them. I favor the latter since the pond didn't melt. I will need to wait for the next time to collect some for AA spectroscopy. ;o)))
-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), January 10, 2002.
Z - it is time to get in touch with your dark side. Admit that the pull is becoming almost irresistible :-)
-- Debbie (email@example.com), January 10, 2002.
Then there is the case of the squirrels. I read this on the web so it must be true. OBL has learned that these little rats are a good vector for small pox [not large pox]. He has raised many and released them in North America. The CDC doesn't know about this since they lack the expertise of the brilliant scientest that were housed in Afghanistan.
Now I didn't put too much faith in this report; until today. The dog started barking. I went out to look. There were 14 gray squirrels on the deck. They all looked normal; except one. He had a long beard and a turban. Before the barium salts started falling from the chemtrails he knew and hid under the deck. He also bows to the east 5 times each day.
An obvious NWO squirrel. ;o)))
-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), January 10, 2002.
Join in the parody. In the words of Alice's Resturant [remember Alice, this is a song about Alice], it could become a movement. ;o)))
-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), January 10, 2002.
Thursday January 10 1:11 PM ET
El Nino May Be Returning
By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - The world may be headed for another bout with El Nino.
The periodic event that can trigger changes in the weather worldwide could return in early spring and affect the United States by late summer, the federal Climate Prediction Center reported Thursday.
The severity of the effects depends on how strong the El Nino is and it's too early to predict that, said Vernon Kousky of the climate center, a division of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
A severe El Nino in 1997-98 caused flooding in California and along the Gulf Coast.
The first signs of an El Nino (pronounced El NEEN-yo) are an unusual warming of the water in the tropical Pacific Ocean, something that has begun to occur, the agency said. That can result in increases in rising warm air, changes in the air pressure patterns and shifts in the high-level winds that direct the movement of weather.
The climate center said indications of the current warming include increased cloudiness and rainfall over the equatorial central Pacific for the first time since the last El Nino.
``Considering the observed oceanic and atmospheric circulation patterns and their recent evolution, it seems most likely that warm-episode conditions will develop in the tropical Pacific over the next 3-6 months,'' Kousky said.
The first area affected would be the tropical Pacific, he said, with Indonesia likely to get some relief from torrential rains.
If El Nino develops as expected, the Pacific northwest will experience wetter than normal conditions in the fall. In the winter, Louisiana eastward to Florida, and possibly southern California, could also experience wetter than normal conditions, and the northern Great Plains could experience warmer than normal conditions, Kousky said.
El Ninos are associated with increased rainfall across the east-central and eastern Pacific and with drier than normal conditions over northern Australia, Indonesia and the Philippines.
During an El Nino, December-February will usually see wetter than usual patterns along coastal Ecuador, northwestern Peru, southern Brazil, central Argentina and equatorial eastern Africa.
Drier than normal conditions are generally observed over northern South America, Central America and southern Africa during this period.
During June-August of an El Nino it will be drier than normal over eastern Australia and wetter than usual in the intermountain regions of the United States and over central Chile.
Turning to temperature, during December-February of an El Nino year it tends to be abnormally warm across Southeast Asia, southeastern Africa, Japan, southern Alaska and western-central Canada, southeastern Brazil and southeastern Australia.
In June-August of an El Nino it tends to be warmer than normal along the west coast of South America and across southeastern Brazil.
The causes of El Nino are not fully understood but climate records show the event has been occurring for hundreds of years.
Historically, El Ninos have occurred every two to seven years and can last up to 12 months. Sometimes an unusual cooling of the tropical Pacific - called La Nina - occurs in between.
El Nino means little boy in Spanish. The effect was named by Peruvian fishermen who would notice its impact on their catch around Christmastime and called the phenomenon after the baby Jesus.
-- too late to stop (runaway @ global. warming), January 10, 2002.
For some reason, el Nino years here are very good ones for rain and mild temps.
-- helen (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 10, 2002.
Glad you like it Helen, it will be your normal weather from now on, until things get much worse. El Nino used to occur about every 10 to 20 years, now they are every 2 to 7 years, and by the end of this decade they will likely be a permanent ongoing condition. Enjoy. : )
-- Eric Clapton (Let @ It. Rain), January 10, 2002.
It seems so politically incorrect to enjoy el Nino. :)
-- helen (email@example.com), January 10, 2002.
Don't feel bad Helen, you are only one amongst the great majority of people who don't understand the ramifications of global warming. Even a friend of mine in Buffalo New York says he isn't worried about it either, because he likes it when it is 70 degrees in November. LOL, everybody thinks warm is good, so it will be just like a day at the beach.
It only takes a little bit of scientific common sense to understand that the Earth's biosphere is not a closed system, which means that even slight changes within a relatively short time can knock it out of kilter, swinging through much more extreme and dynamic changes as it struggles to return to a state of equilibrium. Unfortunately, most people don't even have a little bit of scientific common sense.
Natural periods of global temperature change normally occur over tens of thousands of years, so the entire system adjusts very gradually and stays fairly balanced. Our planet is not accustomed to being forced through such a change within a period of 50 years, and it will react accordingly.
-- Bill Nye (The @ Science. Guy), January 11, 2002.
I recall the years without El Nino could have La Nina instead. While one causes bigger hurricanes, the other one produces less huuricanes. It is too early in the morning for me to remember which causes the bad hurricanes, but I think it is La Nina, making El Nino more politically correct in that instance. Can someone else clarify this point?
This Nina/Nino business is not a simple good cop/bad cop kind of thing. It is important for Floridians and other Southeast Coast states to keep their Ninos straight.
-- Oxy (Oxsys@aol.com), January 11, 2002.
I think it's clear that something very bad is happening to the world's climate. Bush during his campaign pledged to fight global warming, but after he got in he reversed himself and declared that the problem needed further study.
So why are we now facing a game of "you bet your planet." We haven't been told. Senator Lieberman tried to find out but got stonewalled, as to who advised such a switch.
I wouldn't be surprised if scientific whores from Enron played a part.
-- Peter Errington (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 11, 2002.
El Nino May Be Returning
Of course it's returning; it's been returning for hundreds of years. Thanks for the chuckle. :)
-- Maria (email@example.com), January 11, 2002.
The last El Nino we had here in Orange County, washed out roads and streets and hillsides. It was a disaster.
-- (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 11, 2002.
roads and streets?
I switched to decaf, can ya tell? ; )
-- (email@example.com), January 11, 2002.
Chemtrail "believers" should check out:
-- Dennis Molson (firstname.lastname@example.org), January 11, 2002.
"The causes of El Nino are not fully understood but climate records show the event has been occurring for hundreds of years. "
And the connection to global warming would be?
As for "scientific common sense," there's nothing less common than sense.
-- Buddy (email@example.com), January 11, 2002.
Lyrics as reprinted in This is the Arlo Guthrie Songbook, New York, NY, 1969, pp. 91-95. Additional lyrics (chorus) from Digital Tradition (file name: ALICREST) © 1966, 1967, 1969 Appleseed Music Inc.
CHORUS: You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant Walk right in, it's around the back Just a half a mile from the railroad track You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant RECITATION: This song is called "Alice's Restaurant." It's about Alice, and the restaurant, but "Alice's Restaurant" is not the name of the restaurant, that's just the name of the song. That's why I call the song "Alice's Restaurant."
Now it all started two Thanksgivings ago... two years ago, on Thanksgiving, when my friend and I went up to visit Alice at the restaurant.
But Alice doesn't live in the restaurant, she lives in the church nearby the restaurant, in the bell tower with her husband Ray and Facha, the dog.
And livin' in the bell tower like that, they got a lot of room downstairs where the pews used to be, and havin' all that room (seein' as how they took out all the pews), they decided that they didn't have to take out their garbage for a long time.
We got up here and found all the garbage in there and we decided that it'd be a friendly gesture for us to take the garbage down to the city dump.
So we took the half-a-ton of garbage, put it in the back of a red VW microbus, took shovels and rakes and implements of destruction, and headed on toward the city dump. Well, we got there and there was a big sign and a chain across the dump sayin', "This dump is closed on Thanksgiving," and we'd never heard of a dump closed on Thanksgiving before, and with tears in our eyes, we drove off into the sunset lookin' for another place to put the garbage.
We didn't find one till we came to a side road, and off the side of the side road was another fifteen-foot cliff, and at the bottom of the cliff was another pile of garbage. And we decided that one big pile was better than two little piles, and rather than bring that one up, we decided to throw ours down. That's what we did.
Drove back to the church, had a Thanksgiving dinner that couldn't be beat, went to sleep, and didn't get up until the next morning, when we got a phone call from Officer Obie. He said, "Kid, we found your name on a envelope at the bottom of a half a ton of garbage and I just wanted to know if you had any information about it."
And I said, "Yes sir, Officer Obie, I cannot tell a lie. I put that envelope under that garbage." After speakin' to Obie for about forty- five minutes on the telephone, we finally arrived at the truth of the matter and he said that we had to go down and pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the Police Officer Station. So we got in the red VW microbus with the shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the Police Officer Station.
Now, friends, there was only one of two things that Obie could've done at the Police Officer Station, and the first was that he could've given us a medal for bein' so brave and honest on the telephone (which wasn't very likely, and we didn't expect it), and the other thing was that he could've bawled us out and told us never to be seen drivin' garbage around in the vicinity again, which is what we expected.
But when we got to the Police Officer Station, there was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was both immediately arrested, handcuffed, and I said, "Obie, I can't pick up the garbage with these here handcuffs on." He said: "Shut up kid, and get in the back of the patrol car."
And that's what we did . . . sat in the back of the patrol car, and drove to the quote scene of the crime unquote.
I wanna tell you 'bout the town of Stockbridge, Massachusetts, where this is happenin'. They got three stop signs, two police officers, and one police car, but when we got to the scene of the crime, there was five police officers and three police cars, bein' the biggest crime of the last fifty years and everybody wanted to get in the newspaper story about it.
And they was usin' up all kinds of cop equipment that they had hangin' around the Police Officer Station. They was takin' plaster tire tracks, footprints, dog-smellin' prints and they took twenty- seven 8 x 10 colored glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explainin' what each one was, to be used as evidence against us. Took pictures of the approach, the getaway, the northwest corner, the southwest corner . . . and that's not to mention the aerial photography!
After the ordeal, we went back to the jail. Obie said he was gonna put us in a cell.
He said: "Kid, I'm gonna put you in a cell. I want your wallet and your belt." I said, "Obie, I can understand your wantin' my wallet, so I don't have any money to spend in the cell, but what do you want my belt for?" and he said, "Kid, we don't want any hangin's." I said, "Obie, did you think I was gonna hang myself for litterin'?"
Obie said he was makin' sure, and, friends, Obie was, 'cause he took out the toilet seat so I couldn't hit myself over the head and drown, and he took out the toilet paper so I couldn't bend the bars, roll the toilet paper out the window, slide down the roll and have an escape. Obie was makin' sure.
It was about four or five hours later that Alice--(remember Alice? There's a song about Alice.)--Alice came by and, with a few nasty words to Obie on the side, bailed us out of jail, and we went back to the church, had another Thanksgiving dinner that couldn't be beat, and didn't get up until the next morning, when we all had to go to court. We walked in, sat down, Obie came in with the twenty-seven 8 x 10 colored glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, sat down.
Man came in, said, "All rise!" We all stood up, and Obie stood up with the twenty-seven 8 x 10 colored glossy pictures, and the judge walked in, sat down, with a seein' eye dog and he sat down. We sat down.
Obie looked at the seein' eye dog . . . then at the twenty-seven 8 x 10 colored glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one . . . and looked at the seein' eye dog . . . and then at the twenty-seven 8 x 10 colored glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each on and began to cry.
Because Obie came to the realization that it was a typical case of American blind justice, and there wasn't nothin' he could do about it, and the judge wasn't gonna look at the twenty-seven 8 by 10 colored glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explainin' what each one was, to be used as evidence against us.
And we was fined fifty dollars and had to pick up the garbage... in the snow.
But that's not what I'm here to tell you about.
I'm here to talk about the draft.
They got a buildin' down in New York City called Whitehall Street, where you walk in, you get injected, inspected, detected, infected, neglected and selected!
I went down and got my physical examination one day, and I walked in, sat down (got good and drunk the night before, so I looked and felt my best when I went in that morning, 'cause I wanted to look like the All-American Kid from New York City. I wanted to feel like . . . I wanted to be the All-American Kid from New York), and I walked in, sat down, I was hung down, brung down, hung up and all kinds of mean, nasty, ugly things.
And I walked in, I sat down, they gave me a piece of paper that said: "Kid, see the psychiatrist in room 604."
I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I wanna kill. I wanna kill! I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth! Eat dead, burnt bodies! I mean: Kill. Kill!"
And I started jumpin' up and down, yellin' "KILL! KILL!" and he started jumpin' up and down with me, and we was both jumpin' up and down, yellin', "KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL!" and the sergeant came over, pinned a medal on me, sent me down the hall, said "You're our boy". Didn't feel too good about it.
Proceeded down the hall, gettin' more injections, inspections, detections, neglections, and all kinds of stuff that they was doin' to me at the thing there, and I was there for two hours... three hours... four hours... I was there for a long time goin' through all kinds of mean, nasty, ugly things, and I was just havin' a tough time there, and they was inspectin', injectin', every single part of me, and they was leavin' no part untouched!
Proceeded through, and I finally came to see the very last man. I walked in, sat down, after a whole big thing there. I walked up, and I said, "What do you want?" He said, "Kid, we only got one question: Have you ever been arrested?"
And I proceeded to tell him the story of Alice's Restaurant Massacree with full orchestration and five-part harmony and stuff like that, and other phenomenon.
He stopped me right there and said, "Kid, have you ever been to court?" And I proceeded to tell him the story of the twenty-seven 8 x 10 colored glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one . . .
He stopped me right there and said, "Kid, I want you to go over and sit down on that bench that says 'Group W'."
And I walked over to the bench there, and there's... Group W is where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after committin' your special crime.
There was all kinds of mean, nasty, ugly-lookin' people on the bench there . . . there was mother-rapers . . . father-stabbers . . . father-rapers! FATHER-RAPERS sittin' right there on the bench next to me! And they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible and crime fightin' guys were sittin' there on the bench, and the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one . . . the meanest father-raper of them all . . . was comin' over to me, and he was mean and ugly and nasty and horrible and all kinds of things, and he sat down next to me. He said, "Kid, what'd you get?"
I said, "I didn't get nothin'. I had to pay fifty dollars and pick up the garbage."
He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?" and I said, "Litterin'"' . . . . And they all moved away from me on the bench there, with the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean, nasty things, till I said, "And creatin' a nuisance . . . " And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench talkin' about crime, mother-stabbin', father-rapin', . . . all kinds of groovy things that we was talkin' about on the bench, and everything was fine.
We was smokin' cigarettes and all kinds of things, until the sergeant came over, had some paper in his hand, held it up and said: "KIDSTHISPIECEOFPAPERSGOTFOURTYSVENPAGESTHIRTYSEVENSENTENCESFIFT YEIGHTWORDSWEWANTTOKNOWTHEDETAILSOFTHECRIMETHETIMEOFTHECRIMEANDANYOTHE RKINDOFTHINGYOUGOTTOSAYPERTAININGTOANDABOUTTHECRIMEWEWANTTOKNOWTHEARRE STINGOFFICERSNAMEANDANYOTHERTHINGYOUGOTTOSAY . . ."
And he talked for forty-five minutes and nobody understood a word that he said.
But we had fun fillin' out the forms and playin' with the pencils on the bench there.
I filled out the Massacree with the four-part harmony. Wrote it down there just like it was and everything was fine. And I put down my pencil, and I turned over the piece of paper, and there . . . on the other side . . . in the middle of the other side . . . away from everything else on the other side . . . in parentheses . . . capital letters . . . quotated . . . read the following words: "Kid, have you rehabilitated yourself?"
I went over to the sergeant. Said, "Sergeant, you got a lot of god- damned gall to ask me if I've rehabilitated myself! I mean . . . I mean . . . I mean that you send . . . I'm sittin' here on the bench . . . I mean I'm sittin' here on the Group W bench, 'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough to join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug."
He looked at me and said, "Kid, we don't like your kind! We're gonna send your fingerprints off to Washington"!
And, friends, somewhere in Washington, enshrined in some little folder, is a study in black and white of my fingerprints.
And the only reason I'm singin' you the song now is 'cause you may know somebody in a similar situation.
Or you may be in a similar situation, and if you're in a situation like that, there's only one thing you can do:
Walk into the shrink wherever you are, just walk in, say, "Shrink, . . . you can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant", and walk out.
You know, if one person, just one person, does it, they may think he's really sick and they won't take him.
And if two people do it, in harmony, they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them.
And if three people do it! Can you imagine three people walkin' in, singin' a bar of "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out? They may think it's an organization!
And can you imagine fifty people a day? I said FIFTY people a day . . . walkin' in, singin' a bar of "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out? Friends, they may think it's a MOVEMENT, and that's what it is: THE ALICE'S RESTAURANT ANTI-MASSACREE MOVEMENT! . . . and all you gotta do to join is to sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar.
-- Alice's Restaurant (Song@bout.Alice), January 11, 2002.