Metering and shadow questions... Leica M5 vs. M6 vs. CL etc.

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What is type of metering on M6 TTL vs. M6 Classic vs. Leica M5 vs. Leica CL? I would like to know the differences...

For spot metering, should I point the meter at the shadows of the object I am interested in? For example, I was shooting a nighttime gas station and got an underexposed shot. I pointed near one of the lights but should I pointed the camera at the darker shadows? Which shadows should I meter off?

-- Bill Bolger (bill.bolger@yale.edu), January 09, 2002

Answers

Which shadows to meter? That's a tough question, with the usual "it depends" answer. ;-)

As with any meter, the trick is to know what it is metering, and what the meter is telling you. I cant speak to the earlier models, but the M6 TTL is technically a spot meter, meaning that the drop off from the metered area to the adjacent non-metered area is very steep. It is, however, a big spot, and varies somewhat with the lens choice. Getting to know the area of coverage takes a little practice, but is quite do-able.

For a night scene, I'd start with metering the bright areas, and make a mental note of the exposure. Then, meter the middle and dark shadows, taking note of the differences. Then, you can mentally apply a bit of (modified) Zone System interpretation. Assuming you want some detail in the highlight areas (not the lights themselves), your starting point would be 3 stops wider than the highlight measurement (placing the highlights at Zone VIII). With that as the exposure to be set, then determine how much difference there is between that and your shadow measurements. At night, the mid shadows should be within a couple of stops of that setting, and the deep shadows will likely be four or more stops beyond your setting, meaning that the deep shadows won't have detail. What you actually expose at would be a matter of how you want to balance between the highlights and the shadows. For most night scenes, you have to give up detail at one end or the other. Which end depends on the nature of the scene, and what you want the image to look like.

Here are a couple of different approaches:



-- Ralph Barker (rbarker@pacbell.net), January 09, 2002.

All TTL meters, like the spot meter in an M6, indicate what the exposure should be to achieve "medium" gray (18% gray card). In the second example shown above, the sidewalk could be considered close to 18% gray, and you could point the center portion of your meter at the sidewalk to set your shutter speed or aperture. If there is no area in the photo that would be easy to measure as 18% gray, such as the first photo shown, then applying the Zone system (as he described) would be the best plan. Lets all give a toast to Ansel Adams!

-- Pat Dunsworth (pdunsworth@aryarch.com), January 09, 2002.

Here, Here. A toast to Ansel.

He probably never thought it would be applied with a Leica, however. ;-)



-- Ralph Barker (rbarker@pacbell.net), January 10, 2002.

Bill:

Every basic meter, including the one in an M6, assumes every object it meters is middle-gray (Zone V) in color and is calibrated to generate an exposure that delivers that result. In other words, if you point your meter at something that is neutral gray in color, the exposure the M6 generates will be correct for the scene. If alternatively you meter off a dark shadow, say 2 stops lower than neutral gray (Zone III) you meter will give a reading that reproduces the shadow as neutral gray and everything else will be too light as well - so you must reduce your exposure by 2 stops to make your image look right. Conversely, if you metered off a bright light source, say 3 stops brighter than neutral gray (Zone VIII), your meter will generate an exposure that renders the light as neutral gray and everything else darker as well, so you have to add 3 stops of exposure back in to return the image to its proper values.

The easiest method is to meter directly off of an object that is middle gray in color. Some objects that meet this criteria are green grass, clear blue sky, wet concrete, or old bricks. If nothing like this is available, you need to pick an object of known value and compensate. For example, wet sand at the beach is Zone VI, so if you meter off of it, you would have to add back one stop to lighten it accordingly. Dry sand falls in about Zone VII, so if you metered off of it, you'd have to add back in 2 stops. Evergreen trees are Zone IV, so you have to subtract 1 stop if you metered off of one of them. Black hair of fur is Zone III, so you'd subtract 2 stops if you metered off of a Labrador retriever.

Ansel Adams has a trio of books that are VERY good references for the subject of photography, and I suggest every photographer should consider them essential reference sources. They are called: "The Camera", "The Negative" and "The Print". The second one deals with this subject in detail, as do many other books on basic photography or the Zone system.

The meter in the M6 is essentially a large-area spot meter. The TTL is identical in pattern, though I believe it is slightly less sensitive at the low end, but better at the high end. The M5 and CL had a metering cell on a flag that dropped down into the light path prior to exposure, and worked in much the same fasion and covered similar area to that on the M6 and M6TTL. FWIW, the CLE had a multi- patterned shutter curtain and gave more of a center-weighted pattern than the others, while the Hexar RF uses a stripe on the shutter curtain to reflect light to the metering cell.

I hope this helps!

~ Jack

-- Jack Flesher (jbflesher@msn.com), January 10, 2002.


From your question I would guess that you are not familiar w. the "Zones" which the above contributors refer to. Norman Koren has given a fairly simple but yet useful introduction which I think you may find informative:

http://www.normankoren.com/zonesystem.html

-- Niels H. S. Nielsen (nhsn@ruc.dk), January 11, 2002.



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