It's got EVERYTHING from Bush bashing to quotes from Noam Chomsky to conspiracy theories that will send even KoFE to watch Friends on TV. It was SO full of meat [or poodle lips or something], that I thought it best to have its own thread. A dissection of this one could take a lifetime. Actually, it's VERY long, so one might want to take it in little chunks, or forget about it altogether and simply turn on your favorite Sitcom NOW.

Serendipity

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), December 07, 2001

Answers

Auntie Pinko doesn't start a single anti-Bush rumor or otherwise distort reality so as to put Bush in a bad light.

You're gonna LOVE this one, Flint.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), December 07, 2001.

Well, Anita, there's one person here insanely stupid enough to buy this nonsense. I'm referring to Louis the Idiot.

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 07, 2001.

Peter: Just because someone disagrees with you does NOT make them an idiot, and when I hear someone say "Put your head in the toilet and flush", I'll believe that Mr. Polly is here.

It's my opinion that one needs to consider all sides...every theory, even theories that seem "way out there." This is how our minds grow. I remember you once saying to me that I should find one newspaper that I liked and concentrate on that as my news source. I disagree totally. If I did that, I'd only be reading information that confirmed my pre-conceived notions. Where would be the growth in that? Remember TB2k the original? Some folks there refused to hear another point of view. Admittedly, the Debunker forum wasn't the best in presenting another point of view, but it was considered bad form to engage in both sides of the argument [which you might recall I did.]

I wasn't pleased with something that Ashcroft said in his testimony before the Judicial Committee yesterday. Of course I wasn't pleased that the Judicial Committee concentrated on his refusal to allow gun purchase records of the terrorists to be reviewed either.

Yesterday, I stopped in at a little specialty store near my home. They're rarely busy, so one would think that she could get in and out with the purchase quickly. Of course that's not the case in Texas. While I fumbled to get exact change, apologizing for the delay, the clerk said, "I'm not going anywhere. I'd hoped you'd have time to chat a while."

I KNOW I didn't lead the conversation in this direction, but when I got home, I couldn't remember HOW the conversation went to Politics. Anyway, this clean-cut Texas born and raised Vietnam Era vet told me much of what he thought about this administration. He thinks that Bush should be impeached. He thinks that the CIA was involved in the attacks on the Pentagon. He said that when Bush said, "You're either FOR us or AGAINST us." he said, "Well, then call me a terrorist!" It was quite an interesting conversation. He related CIA activities in drug-trafficking from Burma [#1 heroin producer in the world...maybe still is], and feels that the CIA is interested in Afghanistan due to oil AND drugs. [#2 heroin producer in the world.] He may be "a little out there", but he's seen more than I have from that part of the world, and who am *I* to judge him?

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), December 07, 2001.

Never put a gallon of thought into a shot-glass brain. I forgot the link to What Aschcroft said

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), December 07, 2001.

Anita, when someone tells me that Clinton killed more Al Q's in a single night (presumably referring to the expenditure of cruise missiles, a pinprick substituting for real retaliation) than Bush has in his entire Presidency, I am entitled to call him an idiot. I'm 99.9% certain that was Mr. Polly.

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 07, 2001.

I'm 99.9% certain that was Mr. Polly

Reminds me of when Hawk was "90% sure" that the Alaskan Air crash was due to a Y2K problem. LOL.

-- (what@i.think), December 07, 2001.

To "what.i.think":

I don't think there is anyone besides Mr. Polly who is (a) that stupid and (b) a die-hard Clinton defender.

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 07, 2001.

You should send this to Doc. He is big on conspiracy theories. I know for a fact that WTC did not even happen. It was an illusion performed by David Copperfield. Bush commissioned the embittered, spurned Copperfield to make the buildings "disappear" so that he (Bush) could start the war that would save his presidency.

Prominent Hollywood Jews were involved.

-- (Bobby Fischer@Tokyo.Nippon), December 07, 2001.

Peter: WHERE did you see Mr. Polly define himself as a die-hard Clinton person? I seem to remember both TB2k AND the Debunkers forum, and [outside of some random Clinton bashing on TB2k], I don't remember politics ever mentioned by Debunkers. In fact, I think that MOST of us were surprised to learn that our political leanings were all over the place. We'd just kindof assumed that because we agreed on ONE thing, we'd agree on others. NOT!

Politics is a subject pretty close to the bone [which is why lots of folks hold back from political discussions.] I, personally, enjoy political discussions. I don't have to agree with someone to enjoy the discourse.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), December 07, 2001.

Anita, Mr. Polly has been all over the place at Unk's (Tony Baloney & a bunch of other names) accusing the "repugs" of being unwholesomely fascinated with Clinton's pecker, etc etc.

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 07, 2001.

Peter: You know this because? You're beginning to sound like Laura, insisting that every poster is Hawk. Did it ever occur to you that there are MANY people on BOTH sides of an issue? Several people entered Unk's WWW who didn't even KNOW about the Y2k background of some there. Personally, I think you're tilting at windmills, Peter, with the same arguments that Charlie used to suggest that every poster on Poole's was an old doomer who'd come back to haunt him.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), December 07, 2001.

After reading the first two paragraphs I could tell the writer doesn't know what he/she is talking about. A quick skim through the remainder confirmed it. What a waste of time.

-- Buddy (buddydc@go.com), December 07, 2001.

Anita: I may sound like LL to you, but I sound like Mr. Keene to me. (That's as in "Tracer of Lost Persons", for you youngsters who missed the golden age of radio.)

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 07, 2001.

And yet you still have provided no evidence that Mr. Polly was "Tony Baloney & a bunch of other names" on Unk's forum.

-- (what@i.think), December 07, 2001.

To "what.i.think":

Just my God-given intelligence, kiddo.

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 07, 2001.

Which is no substitute for actual evidence, "kiddo."

-- (what@i.think), December 07, 2001.

To "what.i.think"

It's pattern recognition, and I know this mouseturd from way way back.

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 07, 2001.

QUESTION: Does Peter still think Cin is LL?

-- (just@a.wondrin), December 07, 2001.

To: "just.a.wondering"

And when, pray tell, did I do that? (Cin, I may need your help here)

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 07, 2001.

Ahem...trying to pull this thread away from Peter's fantasies into the REAL world, I offer you this article. It's no wonder that Bush doesn't want the records of years past revealed.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), December 07, 2001.

It's pattern recognition, and I know this mouseturd from way way back.

And what pattern do you recognize?

-- (what@i.think), December 07, 2001.

"Just my God-given intelligence, kiddo.

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 07, 2001."

It seems your God-given "intelligence" fails you more times than it works, moron. I am one of the posters that you are referring to, and I can assure you I am not Mr. Polly. I don't even know who Mr. Polly is, but Tony Baloney is not Mr. Polly either. I know who Tony Baloney is, he has been a regular poster since way back in the Ed Yourdon days.

-- (peter repug @ needs. a brain), December 07, 2001.

Tell me, mystery man, are you the one that claimed that Clinton killed more Al Q's in one night that Bush has in his entire Presidency?

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 07, 2001.

Yes I am, dimwit, and if you check your facts before you spew that crap from your mouth you will see that I am correct.

-- (repugs are @ full. of crap), December 07, 2001.

And if he is, how does that demonstrate that he's Mr. Polly?

-- (what@i.think), December 07, 2001.

To "what.i.think"

No, it doesn't demonstrate that he is Mr. Polly. It demonstrates that he as stupid as Mr. Polly, and maybe even more so.

What he is talking about is a massive cruise missile strike that apparently got some Pakistani Al Qs. One figure I read said four, another estimate was as high as 24. It didn't bother the organization one iota. In fact, it undoubtedly encouraged them ..."if all the Americans are willing to do is fire cruise missiles at us, we've got it made."

Mytery Man, your whole post was stupid, but that particular claim is simply beyond stupidity. We've killed a very large number of Al Qs in Afghanistan, don't you know anything?

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 07, 2001.

"We've killed a very large number of Al Qs in Afghanistan, don't you know anything?"

LOL! This, coming from the same dimwit that said there was no oil in Afghanistan??!! Bwaaaahaaahahahaha!!

Okay genius, let's see the proof. How many Al Qaeda members has the American military killed under Junior's command? You can't count those killed by the Northern Alliance. They aren't Americans, even though our chickenshit government paid them to do most of the fighting for us.

-- (peter the repug rabbit is @ hare. brain), December 08, 2001.

No, it doesn't demonstrate that he is Mr. Polly. It demonstrates that he as stupid as Mr. Polly, and maybe even more so.

Which means that you still have yet to demonstrate that this person is Mr. Polly.

-- (what@i.think), December 08, 2001.

I see that you have stupid quibbling as one of your intellectual devices. Why am I not surprised.

Do you have some other ploy, to not count Al Qs killed by American bombs?

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 08, 2001.

To "what.i.think"

I'm not following your drift. What are you getting at?

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 08, 2001.

What I am getting at is that you have yet to demonstrate that any of the people that you have claimed is Mr. Polly is, in fact, Mr. Polly.

-- (what@i.think), December 08, 2001.

To "what.i.think"

I have been known to make mistakes along that line. When I encounter something incredibly stupid, my first instinct is to think of Mr. Polly.

For example, I was in an argument recently with Y2K Pro,, and an alias weighed in with a real jaw-dropper. I figured it was Mr. Polly, and said so, and then LL revealed that the jaw-dropper was hers.

Similarly, I got into an animated discussion with a real wonder named Socrates, and I briefly entertained the notion that this was Mr. Polly, though I did not say so. (Anyway, Socrates' style is different from Mr. Polly's. Socrates' style is to try to back out of assinine statements with word games. I'm not sure Mr. Polly is mentally up to word games.)

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 08, 2001.

I have been known to make mistakes along that line.

So then you admit that you were mistaken in your assumptions that any of these people were, in fact, Mr. Polly.

-- (what@i.think), December 08, 2001.

Well, it appears that I was mistaken about Mystery Man being Mr. Polly (and Tony Baloney too, if Mystery Man knows what he's talking about in that regard). I still say that Mr. Polly's politics are way left.

So perhaps I should make amends to Mr. Polly and rephrase what I wrote to Anita. "Well, there's one person here who might buy into this nonsense - Mystery Man the Idiot."

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 08, 2001.

Peter, I love you man. In court, always plead the 5th.

-- helen (cover@yer.you.know), December 08, 2001.

Socrates is not Mr. Polly.

-- Oxy (Oxsys@aol.com), December 08, 2001.

Oxy:

I know that.

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), December 08, 2001.

Peter, you seem to have an obsession with anonymous posters. Is that your hobby?

-- Pammy (thinks@Peter.needs a new hobby), December 08, 2001.

Peter dahling I know you mean well. Don't let the bastards get you down.

@>-(---

-- Nora Bonovsky (NBonovsky@aol.com), December 08, 2001.

I MEAN

@>-)----

-- Nora Bonosvky (NBonovsky@aol.com), December 08, 2001.

Well, it appears that I was mistaken about Mystery Man being Mr. Polly (and Tony Baloney too, if Mystery Man knows what he's talking about in that regard).

And this after saying I'm 99.9% certain that was Mr. Polly.

I still say that Mr. Polly's politics are way left.

And, as usual, you have no way to prove or demonstrate this. But I'm sure you're "99.9% certain." LOL.

So perhaps I should make amends to Mr. Polly

That would be a start.

-- (what@i.think), December 08, 2001.