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Have to add a Merkin mention on the overrated list... NEVER got that
record; nor have I ever
understood the bruhaha around the UK Apple LP. Lastly... if Gandalf
had a straight pic of the band on
the front it'd be a $5 record. Enormously overrated, I've heard this
200 times and 10 minutes after each
listen all I can remember is a 6th rate Tim Hardin cover. Really
nice sleeve though.
Speaking of really nice sleeves on really REALLY overrated records...
Garrett Lund. Yow. What a
lame-ass boring record. Great cover. Seriously great cover.
foreverisadream wrote:
--- In psychedelica@y..., Stan Denski wrote:
Good choices. Pepper's fantastic but there are 5 or 6 better
Beatles
records; Surrealistic Pillow is also fantastic but I'd rather hear
Crown
of Creation or Volunteers. And, not this post but another similar
one... Quicksilver "Happy Trails" IS boring.
Karl Ikola wrote:
Beatles: Sergeant Pepper
Jefferson Airplane: Surrealistic Pillow
Hey, I like the LPs just fine, and they're influential and all
but....
KI
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************ Overated LPs:
New Tweedy Bros
Euphoria - a gift from
Art of Lovin
Growing Concern
Dragonfly (U.S.)
Merkin
J.K.and Co.
British North American Act
Andwella's Dream
Underated:
New Mix
Chrysalis
Unspoken Word
Summerhill
Mr. Flood's Party
Rainbow Press
Glass Family
Hollins and Starr
Food (This is every bit as good
as Gandalf or Common People?)
My apologies if I affended anyone, its just
my opinion.
Regards,
Buzz
-- (888@roscoe.org), February 01, 2002.
My picks for underrated (I'm cheating by using others lists for a
memory
jog):
Smoke: s/t LP on Sidewalk
Glass Family: Electric Band LP on WB ("Agorn (Elements Of Complex
Variables"
sounds like Amon Duul II circa Yeti, the rest ranges from Doorsy
fuzz/blues
to delicate L.A.-style lost melodies).
WCPAEB: A Child's Guide To Good and Evil LP (widely hailed now but in
the
'80s everyone seemed to cite the first two Reprise LPs, maybe this
one was
too hard to find)
Mad River: s/t (covered in my other post).
Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band: Strictly Personal LP Blue Thumb
(ditto)
SRC: s/t (another that seems to be getting its due now but to me this
makes
mince meat of Morgen, and I love that LP!)
Beau Brummels Triangle LP '67 WB (sure, those who know, *know*, but
considering the great divide 'tween the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
set
(someone actually once said to me: "I only buy records that win
Grammy's,
why waste time on the losers..."?) and the snobby obscurantists
(you've
heard of it? Damn! I better pull out something else to try to get
your
gander up!), this LP gets pretty universally lost time and time
again.
Maybe
the Van Dyke Parks revival has rectified that but that seems
tangential and
almost sad if you need to give his involvement full credit to prop up
the
LP's rep.
Tea Company: Come and Have Some Tea LP Smash '68 (seems to get
written off
for the Vanilla Fudge-isms of the lead off track but this LP is one
wild
sonic ride)
Summerhill: s/t LP on Tetragrammaton
Unfolding: How To Blow Your Mind LP on Audio Fidelity (released in
'67 and
written off as exploito but it's much better than Animated Egg or
even the
Deep for consistently tripped out-ness, though in fairness the Deep
came
out
a year earlier and is cut from a similar cloth)
Kim Fowley: Outrageous LP Imperial '69 (now getting its due but this
is
LA's
answer to the Stooges' Funhouse a year before that LP was
released)...
Floating Bridge LP on Vault: looking at it you'd think its a dullard
with
covers of "Hey Jude" and what not but the LP packs a punch...
Blackbirds: No Destination LP (UK, Saga). What a great lost LP by
this
German group that moves in between R&B, Beat, Pop and demented psych
with a
charming awkwardness. I guess its just emotionally damaged enough to
lose
people (the Crack in the Cosmic Egg book gave it a bad review so you
know
it
has to have something good going for it...)
Can: Monster Movie LP '69 (yeah, the private press version is worth a
fortune and Can have been cited as being as important to today's kids
(last
10 years or so) as the Velvet Underground was 25 years ago (as much
as I
love 'em I think the Velvets have now reached overrated status,
compared to
say, the Mystic Tide...), but "Father Cannot Yell" should be on the
top of
anyone's list for "monster guitar destruction", with only the first
SRC LP
really hitting the same kind of tonalties consistently (Quackenbush
vs.
Karoli, that would have been a battle!)..KI
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Wayne,
Aw go ahead! You write really well and I would personally enjoy
reading
you put McKay and anything else, regardless of what I think, through
the
TV shredder and I'd get a kick out of reading it; the kick would be
dimished a bit if every overrated record was one that I put out, but
come on... do it.
Stan
sistersunshine wrote:
>
> Wow, this really proves how subjective the whole rare/psych
universe
> really is. Music Emporium, Rising Storm, Index, and the Litter are
> overrated? Unthinkable....to me. Then again, the line seems to move
over
> time: the New Tweedy Bros and the Fredric would have both been on
my
> overrated list 10 years ago, but time has proved them to be mighty
> durable records that I'd never part with today. Anyway, might as
well
> weigh in with a few:
>
> Underrated:
>
> Blops-first LP (everyone seems to go for the third one, but I don't
> think it comes close to this)
>
> Som Imaginario-2nd (generally considered far inferior to the first
one,
> but there's a couple of stunning tracks that top it)
>
> Blue Things-s/t on RCA (this has taken a ton of slack ever since I
can
> recall, but Val's songs and vocals are lovely)
>
> Famous Jug Band-Sunshine Possibilities (kinda lost in the shuffle
of
> COB-mania these days, but some of Clive Palmer's best work is here)
>
> Overrated:
> Uh, got as far as Mckay's "Into You" and decided I was walking on
thin
> ice....
> -wayne
>
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-- (888@roscoe.org), February 02, 2002.