Dyer ready to discuss new contract

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Newcastle midfielder Kieron Dyer has revealed that he is ready to sit down and discuss a new contract with the club.

He told the Sunday People: "If the chairman and manager come to me then I will sit down and talk about a new deal."

"I would be happy to open talks about extending my contract here, but I won't go knocking the chairman's door down."

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001

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If that is not a thinnly veiled"Get me out of here" reference I'll show my arse etc etc etc.

Sounds very fimiliar.

Oh thats it,Don hutchi$on August 2001.

"I'll stay here till I retire!"

Bye,bye Dyer.

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001


i wouldn't place hutcihson in the dyer class

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001

But where would you place the players "advisors?"

That is where potential problems lie.

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001


I remember listening to century a while back when all the Hutch website drama was on. Some bloke proffessing to be a mate of hutches came on , insisting he and his missus were very happy at sunderland and were going no-where. haha havnt heard him since.

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001

Na, Kev, Dyer knows that Leeds can't afford him now and that the only clubs that are bigger than us don't need him.

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001


You're spot on there I think Dougal. SK just wishes he was doing a dirty don.

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001

Dougal, wash your mouth out with carbolic. I woudn't use the People as even makeshift netty paper.

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001

It's a direct quote, Bill. In general, though, the only tabloids I've got a real issue with are the Murdoch ones.

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001

How long does he have on his current contract? Couple of years, isn't it? So why the rush to talk about a new one when he's hardly kicked a ball all season? Sounds a bit of creative editing to make a mountain out of a molehill to me.

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001

It's 2003 Ciara which means we have to sign him up or risk his market value falling badly as clubs wait for him on a Bosman - his value next summer won't be anything like it was last summer.

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001


Spot on, Dougal. If Fowler was on a five year deal he would have cost Leeds at least double the £11m figure. It was only because his contract was running out shortly that Liverpool offered him at a relatively low price.

My mate also brought up the Jeffers / Bellamy debate again. At the moment there is only one winner in this battle, and he came at £4m less than the other one.

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001


Let's face it, all he is really indicating is his interest in negotiating a higher wage now that he is getting close to actually earning one again - as opposed to lying looking in the mirrors on his bedroom ceiling.

Sadly - as dougal correctly points out - he is in the perfect negotiating position given that his contract ends at the end of next season, and unless we get him to sign an extension his market value to us will start to rapidly diminish.

Incredible, but it is after all "a funny ol' game. Bloody hilarious in fact!

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001


Hard one to call for the club. Certainly he can't expect an improved contract until he has shown that (a) he has come thru his injury and (b) he shows the right attitude on the park (and off it). However, nowt wrong with expressing interest in a new contract. Both parties just warming up right now. It will get a bit hotter after Christmas (but we may see snow in early February, followed by wind in March and April).

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001

Ah, that makes more sense then, Dougal.

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001

If we can get him to sign an extension now then we should, even if it does mean giving him an improved contract. Regardles of whether he deserves one (and in the lad's defence all he's REALLY done wrong is get injured, which is hardly his fault) this is an absolute priority. He is clearly a superb talent and getting him to sign an extension means that we can take an extra season or two to see how he develops before we need to start thinking about selling him. If we can't get him to sign in the next couple of months then we should really start thinking about selling him sooner rather than later. It's a great time to be discussing an extension as some of the speculation around his future seems to have died down - could be even better if Leeds sign Emerton this week as surely they couldn't find another huge transfer fee. Plus, his best chance of making the World Cup squad is unquestionably by staying with Newcastle - if he were to go to Leeds, Man United, Arsenal or Liverpool then he'd by no means be guaranteed an immediate first team spot. With us I think he can be pretty confident of getting a run as soon as he's fit.

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001


Good point Adk (seriously)

Which World Cup squad? ;7)

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001


Well he's not getting into my tournament, I'm planning on hogging as much of the glory as possible for myself. Wouldn't want him upstaging me.

-- Anonymous, December 04, 2001

We'll just wait and see if I am correct on the Dyer situation.

-- Anonymous, December 04, 2001

Absolutely, Kev. Maybe he'll go to Sunderland along with Reyna, Anelka and Kanoute?

-- Anonymous, December 04, 2001

ADK, Leeds had more or less the same financial results as we had (although they had no dividend..) and have been spending fairly liberally for the past two seasons. Unless there is some sort of swap deal, I can't see how they could really afford him (if they win the PL and get into the CL that's another matter). Actually, Man Utd could use him - if Giggs is injured, they have almost no pace (a factor IMHO in their current poor form).

We'll see what happens in January when the contracts are discussed.

-- Anonymous, December 04, 2001


Talking of Leeds' bottomless pockets I recently read somewhere (yesterday's Guardian picked up for free in London's free V&A museum I think) that Ridsdale has basically raised so much money by gambling on the existence of future profits - securitisation I think they termed it. Does that make sense to anyone ?

-- Anonymous, December 04, 2001

Loons, it's not that different to our securitisation (slightly larger amount over slightly longer period) although I think ours was based on ticket sales rather than on merchandise and TV revenue. The thing about Leeds is that they made a loss last year despite having a fantastic run in the CL. The perceived value of their squad compensates for this to an extent although how much would they have to pay to buy a replacement for Harry Kewell?

-- Anonymous, December 04, 2001

So would it be fair to say that bankruptcy would be the natural result for clubs financed by securitisation if TV money withdrew from the game all of a sudden ?

-- Anonymous, December 04, 2001

Loons, the real expert on these things is Clarky but I have to say, I can think of several PL clubs who are looking at doomsday unless they start taking drastic action soon, Chelsea being the one that is in debt up to its eyeballs and will surely be under pressure to sell soon.

-- Anonymous, December 04, 2001

Presumably not bankruptcy, they would just need to flog off a star or two.

-- Anonymous, December 04, 2001

I believe Chelsea were unable to make their bond payment this season (while buying Zenden et al) so their position is fairly precarious. Bates, however, at the AGM told the fan who queried the club's financial position that he should "shut up" because, "I'm sick of you, you're a w*nker".

-- Anonymous, December 05, 2001

Pot, Kettle.................

-- Anonymous, December 05, 2001

These securitisation deals are basically taking a mortgage against the relevant Club's future income.

If the money is used effectively to bring about success - playing and financial - then it works. However, if success is not achieved, or there were to be a 'significant event' that reduced the Club's income - eg. reduced TV revenue, relegation, etc - imo the Club in question could be in serious trouble.

-- Anonymous, December 05, 2001


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