Re the current shitstorm : LUSENET : Unk's Troll-free Private Saloon : One Thread

I don't know if (1) the very recent troubles at WWW are due to angry EZ Timebombers, or (2) people pretending to be them. I do know that CPR is very active right now and causing trouble.

One thing that makes me suspicious it's # 2 is that in response to the question: what are you upset about, they refuse to give an answer.

-- Peter Errington (, November 05, 2001


Well, hell, if this whole business was started by Andy Ray and Y2K Pro (recent WWW post) that's no reason to screw up WWW. Those two are just roving pains in the butt.

-- Peter Errington (, November 06, 2001.

Those guys are pretty good with HTML. There is apparently some guy named Kip Brisbois over at Sleazy who they don't like very much. They couldn't attack him there because Dennis would lock them out. They think this Kip guy is also posting at WWW, so they pretended to be LL and came over and destroyed all the threads that they thought he was posting on. I knew it wasn't the real LL because she didn't post her trademark rose symbol.

-- (those guys @ are. sick), November 06, 2001.

The whole thing has gotten just TOO silly. I started using my back button when Laura claimed that JBT was Hardliner, who she insists lives in Missouri and was a moderator at the old TB2k. How does that compute with a guy who lives in Texas and a guy who lives in Iowa? Now, everyone is Hawk. I'm Hawk, you're Hawk, Kip Brisbois [or whoever] is Hawk.

I don't care who ANYONE is, as long as the mess is cleaned up, and Laura seems to be willing to clean up the messes.

As far as Charlie posting at the WWW, he considers it beneath him. He'd much rather turn Poole's Roost into a gossip page.

-- Anita (, November 06, 2001.

You may be absolutely right. However, LL has given up her trademark rose symbol.

-- Peter Errington (, November 06, 2001.

Anita (my previous answer was to "these guys are sick") CPR has definitely been trolling.

-- Peter Errington (, November 06, 2001.

Peter: CPR has definitely been trolling.

How do you know that, Peter? You DON'T know that. You're looking for someone to blame for it all and Charlie comes to mind as being the largest thorn in your side. It could be ANYBODY. What's the difference?

-- Anita (, November 06, 2001.

It's pretty clear that it's been Errington all along. He's currently posting as Hawk, Laura, Andy Ray, CPR posting as Andy Ray, and Anita posting as CPR impersonating Andy Ray imitating Uncle Deedah using Manny's handle. They're all fakes and they should be deleted on sight. DELETE!!

-- (what@i.think), November 06, 2001.

Anita, I DO know that. He's been trolling at a board where I'm a moderator, and he doesn't use an anonymizer.

-- Peter Errington (, November 06, 2001.

Anita, I'm sure CPR likes to think of himself as the largest thorn in my side, but the targets of his wrath just laugh at him.

-- Peter Errington (, November 06, 2001.

Forgive me, then, Peter. I actually believed the man when he said that he'd never posted at Unk's. I suppose the temptation could have become too great.

It's hard to believe that folks who come into a forum to troll don't use anonymizers, but that sure seems to be the case. I just don't understand the motivation.

-- Anita (, November 06, 2001.

Anita, their motivation might come out of a bottle or a baggie. When somebody is altered, all manner of stuff can happen.

Peter, I'm with you on your CPR hypothesis. He's mouthy in the best of times, but right now, he's going overboard at Poole's.

-- (Lurker22@Surfing.TheNet), November 06, 2001.

"their motivation might come out of a bottle or a baggie"

Just because people might want to party a little does not mean that they are the ones doin' any of the malicious bullshit.Hell, we're too busy havin' a good time to get bogged down in all that nasty crap, we just want to chill out and have fun with our friends in the neighborhood, not feud and fuss.

Life is way too short fer that, as Bill and Ted would say " Be good to each other".

-- capnfun (, November 06, 2001.

The best thing to do is have a party.

-- camp helen inaguration party dates open for discussion (, November 06, 2001.

What about smokin' and drankin'? Do we have to stay out on the porch? And whose inaugoration is it? Is it like a mule camp?

Sounds FUN!!!!! : )_

-- capnfun (, November 06, 2001.

Capn, with all due respect, not everyone is warm, fuzzy, laid back, or fun when altered. In fact, a dude I used to work for was meaner than mean when he'd been hitting the bottle hard. Alcohol didn't mix well with the stuff he was taking for his tumor, but it took getting arrested a couple of times for that fact to sink in.

-- (Lurker22@Mother.BoardCentral), November 06, 2001.

You and Helen are prolly jus' fine when you've been drinking.

-- (Lurker22@giving.upthetools), November 06, 2001.

And I don't have a brain tumor........I don't think.

-- capnfun (, November 06, 2001.

Issss not a toooomowah!

-- Arnold Shwarzenegger (, November 06, 2001.

A lot of people I know are:

"Instant asshole, just add alcohol..."

But, stoke up a "J" and they are fine. Hmm...

watchin' the smoke rings...

The Dog

-- The Dog (, November 06, 2001.

I don't drink, but I drive. :)

Nothing allowed that you can't show to my cousin the cop, my dear friend the narc, or my godmother the DA assistant, all of whom will be present because they have reserved spots at camp if necessary and this is an inaguration party. Children will be present, so you might as well bring yours too, but you have to look parental at all times. Drinking alcohol is ok as long as you aren't a mean drunk, don't pee in the wrong place or in front of the wrong crowd, and you've given all your carkeys to me first. Come to think of it, there will be at least two ministers present, and both of them are multi-lingual, so you can't swear out loud in any language. But not every minister will be Christian, so you can't say anything about religion or they'll start arguing amongst themselves and heaven forfend involve us too. A few psychologists will be mixing in, and I never can get these guys to loosen up and just accept people for the weirdos they are, so you'd better try to look "normal". And all my elders will be there, so you can't do anything that would make me look bad -- I'll hear about it forever after.

Wait a minute -- this is exactly why I'm so repressed. We'd better meet somewhere where no one knows me...

-- helen (this@explains.everything), November 06, 2001.

Good Lord Helen!!!

No wonder you and Mike are such buds : )

-- capnfun (, November 06, 2001.

Looking at it in black and white print makes it seem kinda sad ...

Mike Mule hurt me today. He and I were heading out to the back forty, and I had his halter and no lead rope. The resident Goth came running around the house yelling that welfare was on the phone.

Ok, first, we're not on welfare, but it was a friend of mine calling from work.

You've seen Goths? They like to dress all in black, preferably long and loose. Have you ever seen one running with a phone? Running with a phone yelling about the welfare lady? Flapping arms? Wild dark clothes flapping along with the arms?

Well, Mike Mule sure hadn't.

He took off. My hand was firmly wrapped up in his halter, so WE took off. He turned around to make me let go and kicked me in the stomach. Then he head-butted me in the chest. Which twenty years ago woulda made Hefner weep, but now it don't matter much. Well, I never let go. I never let go of kids, mules, men, or used cars. That's why there's so much of that up here.

I digress.

After I got the kid to stand still by screaming colorful instructions involving the placement of the phone, the mule calmed down enough for me to take the call. Luckily that particular welfare lady is my friend, if you know what I mean.

I'm trying to have a conversation with her, and the mule starts tapping my foot with his. That didn't get him much, so he started stomping on my foot with his. Then he bit my foot. Then I told him what was going to happen to him, forgetting the welfare lady friend thought I was speaking to a child. So it took even more time to explain that it was NOT a child, then more time while she explained animal cruelty laws.

And I was the only one in pain. Totally unfair, life is.

So ... where and when are we all gonna try to meet?

-- helen (goths@mules.welfare.headache), November 06, 2001.

LOL Helen,

If Hollywood ever takes to reading this forum you will be one rich woman.I can see in detail the events you describe and Iv'e been sittin here chucklin fer 15 mins.BTW, you got lotsa Goth's hangin out with you and Mike?

-- capnfun (, November 06, 2001.

Agree that Helen has writing talent. A scary life, ;) but Hollywood would love it.


-- Pammy (, November 07, 2001.

Why, I'VE never seen a Goth. Course, my childhood was traumatic. I was quite deprived. Not a single, solitary 14th Century German EVER - I mean EVER - visited our house. What's up with that?

Merriam-Webster's says: GOTH Date: 14th century : a member of a Germanic people that overran the Roman Empire in the early centuries of the Christian era.

-- Rich (, November 07, 2001.

" Why, I'VE never seen a Goth. Course, my childhood was traumatic"

A Goth course:A place where scary Germans hang out?

Solly, couldn't help meself : )

-- capnfun (, November 07, 2001.

If anyone gives me money for these tales when they can swipe 'em for free off the net, it'll be a first.

Rich, the way kids use the term "Goth" these days means "Gothic" which means they dress like something out of an Anne Rice novel which is where they all really want to be.

One time I went "out there" -- that's what we say when we refer to the Goth's room, "out there" -- I opened the door and instead of the expected horrifying Goth there was a Gypsy fortune teller standing there with a sword. I made the Goth clean up my mess.

I hang out with the mule because he's got more sense that most around here.

-- helen (rescue@me.please), November 07, 2001.

It's been said that the ONE girl that my son finally managed to "go with" went Goth after she dumped him. I don't want to know more than this about that situation.

-- Anita (, November 07, 2001.

I am thinking of going Goth. Any advice?

-- (, November 07, 2001.

First bit of advice: don't quit your day job, Lars.

-- (Lurker22@laughingover.mulemike), November 07, 2001.

When I was a kid, the only Goth was Gotham City. :)

Yes, Commissioner?

-- Pammy (, November 07, 2001.

Does pride goth before the fall?

-- (, November 07, 2001.

I think I have some insight into the modern Goth culture because I took a lot of lit courses in college. I would have been an English major, but I was afraid it was impractical. But it was tempting, because boy could I sling it in those days.

Anyhow, I think it started with an English writer named "Monk" Lewis, who wrote about horrible doings in creepy castles. These were known as Gothic novels. I think he wrote in the first half of the 1800's, but I'm not sure of this.

-- Peter Errington (, November 07, 2001.

Perhaps it started when kids wanted to dress like their favorite bands...The Cure, for example.

-- (just@a.thought), November 07, 2001.

[assuming battered wife counselor here for a minute]: Helen, wouldn't accept getting kicked in the stomach nor butted in the chest by a man or a used car. You also wouldn't use excuses like "He freaked when he saw a ..." Think about this for a few minutes. You STILL kiss this guy.

-- Anita (, November 07, 2001.

He has the most kissable lips...

-- helen (, November 07, 2001.

EEEW! I think I would rather kiss a dog... oh wait...

never mind...

lickin' the girls face...

The Dog

-- The Dog (, November 07, 2001.

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