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After promising nere to return. Oh my lovely Laura I have missed you so. How I desire things could have worked out. But my love, I still think of you. I think of you atop a scud missle launched at Affghannystanny.
-- (Mr@Polly.yahoo), October 03, 2001
Lol.
-- (another@troll.maria), October 03, 2001.
Deal with it, Hawk, aka Roland, Tony Baloney, Porky, Manny, and whoever else you are at the moment.
You and the other mean extremists are, have been, and always will be, the biggest chickenshits on earth.
So, for old time's sake:
Kiss my pretty, white, powdered butt!
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 03, 2001.
Speaking of terrorist threats!
-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), October 03, 2001.
Hey Lady, unless your a fucking repug, I never say anything to you or about you. I only change my handle when I want to post without fucking cuss words. Then I write normal things. I only use Tony Baloney to fuck with the right winger dumbfuck repugs.
-- Tony Baloney (Fuck the@repugs.com), October 03, 2001.
Hey, coward, I guess you missed this.
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 03, 2001.
Sorry, Tony. You sound an awful lot like him.
My political orientation is a moot point since I'm not there, but I switched to libertarian about a year ago.
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 03, 2001.
Borderline Personality Disorder"Relationships with others are intense but stormy and unstable with marked shifts of feelings and difficulties in maintaining intimate, close connections. The person may manipulate others and often has difficulty with trusting others. There is also emotional instability with marked and frequent shifts to an empty lonely depression or to irritability and anxiety. There may be unpredictable and impulsive behavior which might include excessive spending, promiscuity, gambling, drug or alcohol abuse, shoplifting, overeating or physically self-damaging actions such as suicide gestures. The person may show inappropriate and intense anger or rage with temper tantrums, constant brooding and resentment, feelings of deprivation, and a loss of control or fear of loss of control over angry feelings. There are also identity disturbances with confusion and uncertainty about self-identity, sexuality, life goals and values, career choices, friendships. There is a deep-seated feeling that one is flawed, defective, damaged or bad in some way, with a tendency to go to extremes in thinking, feeling or behavior. Under extreme stress or in severe cases there can be brief psychotic episodes with loss of contact with reality or bizarre behavior or symptoms. Even in less severe instances, there is often significant disruption of relationships and work performance. The depression which accompanies this disorder can cause much suffering and can lead to serious suicide attempts"
One identifier of BPD is the tendency to see people as dramatically "for" or "against" one. Extreme devotion flips quickly to extreme hatred. It is difficult to consider Laura's online behavior without thinking of BPD.
I consider BPD a genuine mental illness, one that can be treated. I share the community's general contempt of Laura's persistent efforts to sabotage chat areas, destroy forums and even cause problems offline. Ironically, the one cause she truly hurt was the "pollyanna" view of Y2K--a view she allegedly shared. While one can criticize her behavior, her actions clearly indicate a deeply troubled person, one who needs treatment. Many individuals with BPD have been abused as children. There is a signficant chance this happened to Laura. This does not excuse her behavior, but it may help explain it. While the information on BPD may do little good, perhaps Laura will someday reach the point where she realizes she needs help. We can only hope this day comes.
-- Dismember (the@ld.forum.com), October 03, 2001.
You ex-moderators of TB2K are obvious.
You missed this:
"http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl? msg_id=006W9j>I really hope you don't think I care that you three are upset with me. I don't even care that I have the longest flame in Lusenet history.
I don't get on the Internet to make friends. Maybe you missed that in the past? However, as it just so happens, "Jack", I have. I guess you are projecting your need to make "friends" on the Internet. I feel sorry for you. You must not have any life at all.
While I'm at it, there is another reason I feel sorry for you, Jose, and the other handle: People who use handles they didn't use before Y2K must either be embarassed or ashamed of what they're posting or who they are. Either that, or they feel what they're doing is unethical or immoral. Either way, I'm not going to give any credence to a coward; and I doubt anyone else does.
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 02, 2001.
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 03, 2001.
It's pretty amusing to be called an "ex-moderator." Actually, Laura, I'm not angry with you or your antics. More than anything, it is sad to see a person struggling with such troubling mental and emotional problems.Clearly, you are not here to make friends, but you are filling a void in your life. Reading your rants, I was struck by how profoundly empty you must feel. This sense of emptiness has obviously resulted in unfortunate attempts by you (and your alter egos) to extend the chaos of your life onto others.
Read about BPD and try, just try, to look honestly at your life. You are ill; but you can change. Try.
-- Dismember (the@ld.forum), October 03, 2001.
I’ve always enjoyed a great and long lasting relationship with Laura. That may be due to the fact that I’m a very rational person and share her views on most things. She just doesn’t suffer assholes too well.
-- So (cr@t.es), October 03, 2001.
Thanks for pointing that out, Socrates. I don't suffer assholes well, but it's fun jousting with them on occasion.
It's pretty amusing to be called an "ex-moderator."
Why? Are you a current moderator also? You have to admit that the old "sysops" (What a joke you called yourselves that. None of you knew the first thing about servers) have posted with your pre-Y2K handles on this board or Chris' that I know of. You are just too ashamed; and with good reason.
Actually, Laura, I'm not angry with you or your antics.
Well, good. That makes me very happy. I'm going to assume by your last post that my "antics" are "destroying" webboards. Everyplace I've ever been on the Internet is still up, so I guess you lost the opportunity to continue being one of Yourdon's flunky's and are upset about that. Well, I'm sorry if I rained on your parade.
you are filling a void in your life.
I assure you, there are no voids in my life. I believe I've posted several times over the last two years that I live a charmed life. You must be projecting again.
Reading your rants, I was struck by how profoundly empty you must feel.
You are projecting again.
You are ill; but you can change.
You are ridiclous; but you have the right to be.
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 03, 2001.
If she doesn't suffer assholes, well, the question seems obvious.I can assure you I am not now nor ever have been a "moderator" or "sysop" of any online forum. I was regular participant ("of polly inclination") and observed your involvement first hand. This includes flooding boards (and chat areas) with harassing and often profane posts. Terminal, perhaps not; but destructive without a doubt. Your behavior reflected poorly on the articulate, reasonable posters who were busy debunking Yourdon and his ilk.
I do not expect a mentally ill person to exhibit insight into her own disorder. As a person, however, I feel obligated to give you the information. Fulfilled, well-adjusted people do not engage in your behavior.
-- Dismember (the@ld.forum.com), October 03, 2001.
Yourden had an ilk, excuse me ilque, too? Jesus, I really must get this checked out before I degenerate to his level.
-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), October 03, 2001.
Then you must be Ken Decker and you're a bigger coward than I ever could have imagined.
You never were a polly. You were a closet doomer and I told you so before and after the rollover.
You don't have to worry about me, Decker. I'm healthy, happy, enjoying life, and I hope for your sake you live to have 1/10th of what I have. By the way, how's that weight problem?
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 03, 2001.
In case anyone missed it, I am the only moderator here, and I don't do much moderatin'.Unless you are Z. He gets deleted on sight.
( :P
-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), October 03, 2001.
Boy, I haven't seen this kind of obssesive paranoia in a long time. It's just killing you to "know" who that is addressing you isn't it?Why don't you use those considerable computing skills to track down the poster through his/her IP address so you can "out" them? Maybe it is actually Netghost and he/her is back stalking you.
-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), October 03, 2001.
Hey Laura,You back to raise a little or are you just visiting?
You still live in PHX?
Scratchin' an itch...
The Dog
-- The Dog (dogdesert@hotmail.com), October 03, 2001.
That's what I suspected, Unk.
No "Jack", it's not "killing" me. It is fun to uncover which of you cowards is which.
Ken, I just remembered the reason you are upset I spammed bok's. It's because my flooding and cursing made it difficult for you to flirt with Cynthia...not because you were trying to sway anyone's opinion about Y2K. She was a married woman with children, you know. Did she ever leave him for you? No. I thought not. He was a doctor and you are a pee on.
Have you ever wondered why you take offense to my cursing two years ago, but never take anyone else to task for theirs?
Get over it.
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 03, 2001.
Well, hello, Dog!
No, I don't live in Phoenix anymore. I moved about a year ago.
I had planned on only posting one post, but it seems I'm getting a little more caught up ;o)
How's the family? I heard your company's getting hammmered. I guess being a specialized "mechanic" gives you a little more job security than most though. I hope everything's going well!
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 03, 2001.
Keep guessing, Laura (or Cathy), but do take a deep breath first. Lashing out wildly only undermines your position. If you are happy, the suggestion you have mental health problems hardly deserves a response, particularly when this suggestion is made by a anonymous "coward" online. But, sadly, you cannot move on. Your personality has an obsessive-compulsive character, one we all saw when you were spamming Bok's and the old forum. Get some help, or not. If you are here to trot out your old song and dance, I'll pass. I've already seen the show once.
-- Dismember (the@ld.forum.com), October 03, 2001.
...I just remembered the reason you are upset I spammed bok's.Justification for (an adult?) spamming a chat room: sense of moral superiority. That's reason enough to spam. Now it all makes sense to me. All this time I've wondered why anyone would act to make a chatroom unusable. Quite rational, really.
Bokonon left Laura in charge of the chatroom in his absence. Perfectly understandable.
-- Rich (living_in_interesting_times@hotmail.com), October 03, 2001.
I'm Laura.
I noticed you didn't deny you're Ken Decker, coward.
Rich,
That figures coming from you. I've been in bok's before when you told people you were bi-sexual. It's not that I feel I have some sort of moral superiority, it's just that I don't appreciate when people lie to cover up the real reason they're complaining about me. Now I'm wondering why you feel the need to defend Kennyboy. Have you two "met"?
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 03, 2001.
Rich did not say that! He said he would LIKE to be bi-sexual if he could just find a woman.
-- Tales (from@the.chat), October 03, 2001.
Here a taste for you my dear
-- (Mr@Polly.yahoo), October 03, 2001.
BTW, how many handles have you posted under?
-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), October 03, 2001.
ho friggin hum
-- (cin@cin.cin), October 03, 2001.
Wow,I never realized, Ken and I were such a "hot" item...to think,after more than a year,a plain ole housewife like me is still remembered by the esteemed Lady L ! It boggles me,it really does.At any rate,whilst I am here,I'll say hi to some people I have missed this past year..Ken,hi,hope all is well with you..Anita,I see you are still posting and still civil in response,unlike a lot of people we could mention..and to the one and only Deedah,how are you, m'dear??
there are a few others,but right now I have to go and blow my nose..it started running after my laughing fit..
-- Cynthia (Cynthia@FemmeFatale.com), October 03, 2001.
Thought I might push a button to see if it is the real McCoy. Sure enough it is. Is there an exorcist in the house?
-- Rich (living_in_interesting_times@hotmail.com), October 03, 2001.
This is great.WB Laura!
-- Carlos (riffraff@cybertime.net), October 04, 2001.
Gee Laura... I move to Phoenix and you take off somewhere else. I guess it's just our karma. Welcome back. We've missed you. Your intelligent posts and sharp tongue for the likes of Hawk and his brain dead cronies was sorely missed. As you have noticed this place has essentially degenerated into a meeting place for overgrown immature teenage males. If it wasn't for someone like Unc it would already have been long gone.P.S. It's been hotter than hell in PHX lately, but this week we finally seem to be getting some relief.
-- A Fan (of@Lady.Logic), October 04, 2001.
Part of maintaining anonymity is never confirming or denying any guesses. Once you start saying "Yea" or "Nay," someone will start figuring out who you really are. Oh, here's a another bit of advice. Emotionally secure men are not threatened by the accusation of homosexuality.
-- Dismember (the@ld.forum.com), October 04, 2001.
Decker, I think you protest too much. Don't bother. I don't care if you two are an item, and I don't think anyone else does either. Furthermore, you're not fooling anyone hiding behind the fake handles, but I think you need to read this again:
" People who use handles they didn't use before Y2K must either be embarassed or ashamed of what they're posting or who they are. Either that, or they feel what they're doing is unethical or immoral. Either way, I'm not going to give any credence to a coward; and I doubt anyone else does."
Hi, Carlos!
A Fan,
Yes, I know it's been hot in Phoenix. I still read the Repubic online and it said September was the hottest ever. That's the reason I'm not there! I decided to head for greener pastures when I was diagnosed with sun cancer on my forehead. It took me 3 weeks of superficial irradiation to get rid of it! I'm light-skinned, I hate the heat, and I decided life's too short to live in a sandbox. I hope you enjoy it, though. You can have it.
Have you had breakfast at the Biltmore yet?
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 04, 2001.
Opps. That should have read: That's one of the reasons I'm not there!
The other is personal and I'm not going to give my trolls any ammunition. Come to think of it, you're a troll too because you're not using your pre-Y2K handle. Why is that?
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 04, 2001.
The only way to protest less would be to say nothing. It is not my intent to "fool" or mislead anyone. (You are quite foolish enough without my help.) My intent is to remain anonymous. Who I am is, in short, none of your concern.Repeating a foolish statement does not make it true. A person may have any of a wide range of motives for remaining anonymous or for changing a "handle." For example, they might want to avoid stalking by the mentally unbalanced. Perhaps when you post your full name, address and phone number, it will encourage others to shed the veil of anonymity? Oh, I apologize. Your definition of "courage" is to show up post rollover under the same mask as you wore in 1999. Quell courage!
-- Dismember (the@ld.forum.com), October 04, 2001.
Dismember, touche and salut
-- Tick Tock (Time@Keeper.here), October 04, 2001.
Please email all apologies for pre-rollover actions to andyman633@hotmail.com, and while you're at it, check all the source in my post-rollover posts for a special message to the world's largest (demonstrated) coward!Humourous Regards,
Andy Ray
-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), October 04, 2001.
I do not give a fuck who likes it or not for I am here to stay. Dismember do you not have other business to attend to other than to cyberstalk me? Kiss my ASS, my Powdered WHITE ASS.
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 04, 2001.
Hi LL,The reason I'm not using my pre-Y2K handle is because I didn't have one. I didn't discover this place until after the big event. It was sort of an accident stumbling upon it and then I got hooked. I don't post very much and have been really disappointed since everyone went underground with fake names. It just isn't the same old fun place anymore. But with you back there is some excitement again. It's great the way you put all these idiot trolls in their places.
Yes, it was pretty rough in PHX this summer with record highs. Even last week it hit 106 several times. Thanks to the WTC attack it looks like I may get laid off in a few more weeks, so perhaps I'll head for cooler climes in search of work and fun.
Welcome back and keep those posts coming!!!
-- A Fan (of@Lady.Logic), October 04, 2001.
Laura, is it 'really' 'you'?,You know better than to completely believe that you are corresponding with the real Decker, right?
I'm curious - you used to be motivated by the fear of FUD - is that how you explain your sudden 'reappearance'?
-- flora (***@__._), October 04, 2001.
Sure, sure, Double Decker.
A Fan,
The economy is going to get better. If you're good at what you do, live life reasonably: don't spend money on things that aren't necessary, pay off as much credit as is comfortable, learn as much about your business as you can, search for beauty, be kind to good people. If all that still finds you in a tough spot, e-mail me your resume and maybe I can find you work there.
flora,
That is Decker. Maybe you don't recognize him, but I do.
Honey, fud is for the birds. People live their lives afraid of their shadow and that hinders mankind. There doesn't seem to be much I can do about it, and dogone it, it breaks my heart. I only wish I had the words and the time to stop the madness, unfortunately, I'm only a fallible human being.
So, my advice is - sleep well, love your kids, and appreciate the sunrise.
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 04, 2001.
THE ART OF THE FARTBeyond the artsy fartsy,
Beyond the jolting fart
That blasts like a bassoon
Or trumpet, and is powerful
Enough to snuff out a candle
Or bore a gaping hole
In the seat of one's pants.
Beyond the obnoxious
Afflatus that shouts
And slices the indecorous air
Like the pedestrian speech
Of fishmongers and circus barkers.
Beyond the seemingly pious
Fart that escapes from the ass
Of a hoodlum priest or a hypocrite,
Sprinkles itself like
Holy water in the rite
Of extreme unction
And comes out in a whisper,
Gossip-like, followed in
Its wake by wet, chunky matter.
There are more refined
Manners of unleashing
One's terrible wind.
There are square and round
Farts, gaseous nightmares
Of all shapes and sizes.
There is a checkered fart,
And farts of all colors and shades.
There is a fart with
A pink complexion
That blushes blue and red.
There is the scholarly
Fart that pompously
Declares its learned presence
In a crowded public
Reading room where silence
Is the order of the day.
There is the rhyming,
Mellifluous fart composed
By poets and musicians
That reads like an ode
Or plays like a flute.
There is the fart of deception,
The undercover fart without sound,
That forever reeks of
Subterfuge and intrigue.
There is a sacred fart,
A blessing from angels and saints,
A miracle of sound and smell,
Heady with perfume and incense.
Last but not least,
There is the subtlest fart of them all
Issues forth not
From the fundament,
But from the parted supple
Cheeks of silence itself.
It is an enigmatic fart,
An epic fart with no
Beginning or end.
Methinks it is my soul farting.
-- (LadyLogic2000@yahoo.com), October 05, 2001.