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British Prime Minister Tony Blair gave a major policy speech to a Labour Party gathering in London, and he made it crystal clear where his country stands in the war on terrorism. Personally, I’ve long considered him to be one of the greatest public speakers in the world’s political arena.

For the most part, his comments mirrored that of President Bush’s speech to congress but the element that I found to be most important was the call for an independent Palestine. In the last day or so, it would appear that this is the prime goal of the anti-terrorist coalition and hopefully, with the support of Israel we will see this come to pass.

This planet might just get squared away after all.

-- So (cr@t.es), October 02, 2001

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If Likkud agrees to an independent Palestinian state, my jaw will hit the ground. Once I got over the shock, I'd be thrilled.

-- Little Nipper (canis@minor.net), October 02, 2001.

WOW! "Tough Tony"!!

Maybe we should put his picture on boxes of Frosted Flakes and call him "Tony the Tiger"!

I'm glad you are so pleased with your New World Order heroes. Too bad they have pulled the wool over your eyes so you don't see their agenda.

Why did Tough Tony wait until AFTER 6,000 Americans were killed to make it "crystal clear" that he is against terrorism?

-- yippee (saved@by.fascists!), October 02, 2001.

Thank you, yippee. WTC was tailor made for these guys. If this event doesn't make a permanent coalition, we'll have another and another.....

-- Bin who? (Thistime@nextyear.org), October 02, 2001.

Doesn't suprise that the world conspiracy lunatics come out of the woodwork now. Slid under their rock after Y2K fizzled and now they are back.

The don't realize that the NWO meets in Never Never Land every other Thursday.

Oh, and it wasn't 6000 Americans. It was approximately 6000 people from all over the world, the majority of which were Americans. They pissed off more than just the USA this time.

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthbeach.com), October 02, 2001.

Deano, Deano, Deano. You know that it is every other Tuesday night, not Thursday night.

-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), October 02, 2001.

Damn, no wonder I am the only one at the NWO meeting on Wednesdays.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), October 02, 2001.

Our local NWO cell ‘was’ meeting on Wednesdays until the friggin’ Lizard People complained. Most of them live in the Inland Empire and refused to come near the coast during the week. So to compromise, we meet on Saturday mornings at an abandoned blimp hanger in Tustin, black helicopters and all. This week, Darryl Gates will be our guest speaker and you are all welcome to attend, unless we are busy that morning taking over the world.

-- So (cr@t.es), October 02, 2001.

Breathe deep and sleep, dupes...

http://www.users.voicenet.com/%7Ewbacon/stdk7277.html

-- Bin who? (thistime@nextyear.org), October 02, 2001.

'Let us reorder this world'

Michael White, political editor Wednesday October 3, 2001 The Guardian

Tony Blair yesterday turned his battle against the terrorists who ravaged New York into a far wider struggle for a new world order that would uphold human dignity and social justice "from the slums of Gaza to the mountain ranges of Afghanistan".

In what was almost certainly the most powerful speech of his career, the prime minister used his speech to the Labour conference to synthesise an uncompromising hostility to Osama bin Laden's terrorist network - and the Taliban if they do not give him up - with a vaunting promise to remake the world as a better place.

The sweep and moral fervour of the 54-minute address caught friend and foe off guard. There were no party political jibes and barely a triumphalist mention of Labour's historic June 7 election victory. The Conservatives damned the performance with faint praise.

Evidently sensitive to charges that he was sounding too confrontational, Mr Blair acknowledged that many people are fearful of what lies ahead - and sought to reassure voters whose unwavering support is vital to a long campaign.

"Our way of life is a great deal stronger and will last a greal deal longer than the actions of fanatics, small in number and now facing a unified world against them. People should have confidence. This is a battle with only one outcome: our victory, not theirs," he insisted.

Admitting his own helplessness in the face of so much bereavement on September 11, Mr Blair had earlier said of the dead: "They don't want revenge, they want something better in memory of their loved ones. I believe their memorial can and should be that out of the shadow of this evil should emerge lasting good."

The speech, which was, unusually, drafted by Mr Blair himself, also reflected his private moral preoccupations to an unusual degree. But before a largely secular audience it was repeatedly punctuated with bursts of applause in the packed but sombre Brighton conference centre, where the foreshortened 2001 conference ends today.

As the prime minister sat down he was praised for his vision and tone by friends and critics alike within Labour's ranks, though delegates may come down to earth with a jolt when they size up to the challenges he posed in the name of "the power of community" - local and global - to do good.

"He didn't deal with the whats and hows, but he certainly explained the why," said one former cabinet member. Some leftwingers and trade unionists, irked by the address's religiosity, called it "messianic" and lacking commitment to the means of righting the world's wrongs.

They were a minority. "Brilliant," said a senior colleague after hearing his party leader - famous for his regard for business tycoons - declare: "The starving, the wretched, the dispossessed, the ignorant, they are our cause too."

Throughout the day's debates senior ministers, including Jack Straw, Geoff Hoon and Clare Short, had stressed the importance of adhering to international law in the search for justice - a point echoed by the veteran Tony Benn in an emotional warning against the "sorrows of war".

An end to famine, poverty and corruption in Africa, as well as genocidal conflicts such as Rwanda's, were only part of an agenda that foresaw the world tackling such intractable problems as global warming and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict - an "equal partnership" side by side in their own lands.

Though the back half of Mr Blair's text addressed the domestic agenda - the need to put improved public services before tax cuts - he repeatedly went out of his way to reconcile Islam with the west, above all with America.

For all its flaws the US, where a black child of poverty such as Colin Powell could rise to be secretary of state ("I wonder frankly whether such a thing could have happened here") was still a model to the world, he argued.

Nor had America lashed out, as some had predicted: "no missiles on the first night just for effect". When military strikes came they would be "proportionate, targeted - we will do all we humanly can to avoid civilian casualties".

While the west must address its shameful ignorance of Islam, he later suggested, "it is time also for parts of Islam to confront prejudice against America" - not only Islam, but "parts of western societies too". That was loudly applauded in a conference where such sentiments have long existed.

But Mr Blair's conciliatory and idealistic tone was not extended to the enemy of the moment, whose version of Islam was "no more obedient to the proper teachings of the Koran" than the crusaders of the Middle Ages had exemplified the gospel message, he said.

"Be in no doubt Bin Laden and his people organised this atrocity," Mr Blair insisted. He offered no evidence, although he did suggest that terrorism finances itself through Afghan heroin sold on the streets of Britain.

His contempt for the Taliban and their denial of human rights, especially for women, was stinging. But he did not say, as Labour briefers had indicated overnight, that it was already too late to avoid military retribution.

"I say to the Taliban: surrender the terrorist or surrender power. It's your choice."

Mr Blair's pledge to defeat the "act of evil" that destroyed the World Trade Centre - "if they could have murdered not 7,000 but 70,000 does anyone doubt they would have done so and rejoiced?" - was only the trailer to a declaration that globalisation made cooperation between nations and cultures imperative.

"This is a moment to seize," he said. "The kaleidoscope has been shaken, the pieces are in flux, soon they will settle again. Before they do let us reorder this world around us and use modern science to provide prosperity for all.

"Science can't make that choice for us, only the moral power of a world acting as a community can."

-- Tony the Tiger (Mr. @ NWO.), October 03, 2001.

The location is correct........right?? ;-)

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthbeach.com), October 03, 2001.

No, we had too change it so Unk wouldn't keep trying to crash the meetings. E-mail me and I give you the new place.

-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), October 03, 2001.

Sorry you guys missed the last meetin.

Anyhow the main topic had to do with getting more Sheep behind our "plans"(ya know). So DickC suggests that to spread the support we needed to wrap the entire country in a Flag, not just the crap we give to Dubya to spread. So Rummy suggests I work-on the kinks in the Terrorist thingees sum more and plan an incident(allow sumthin to happin ya know the ususal way we do things-stand down lol)right here in the good olde us-o-a.

See guys once we get 90% or so behind us, we can do alot of neat things! So we decided to get 'mericans feeling good again about being 'mericans. Hell these useless feeders will then accept just about any hairbrain scheme we have tossed about over the years, gunna be great.

So you see you really do need to make these meetins. In the meantime, love-ya alls.

-- (seepowell@cfr.nwo), October 03, 2001.

Lizard people Soc? Jealous maybe cause you've forgotten what an open field looks like.

-- Carlos (riffraff@cybertime.net), October 04, 2001.

NWO is ok but I dig NWA

-- (Roland@hatemail.com), October 04, 2001.